Vlach haplogroups & deep ancestry?

Dreptul Valah,
Kaloyan
Interesting Kaloyan remember us Caloianul, witch is a popular practice in Romania to bring rain. Caloianul was the soil sent by men to the god of the rain, to persuade him to unravel the rains. Thus, during the drought, the girls and women in the country made a small yellow clay (called "Caloian") that they put in a coffin and which they thought of as a dead man, imitating the funeral ritual. The women were singing a specific poem, then buried the man in the clay near a well. Three days later they dug it up and threw it on the water to disturb the waters and clouds, as it does before it rains. On Caloian's day, the men were only pending until noon, and the rest of the day they were spending.
Speaking about Caloian.
Does Caloian Ioniță sound like a Bulgarian name to you? :lol:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaloyan_of_Bulgaria?wprov=sfla1
 
Luan is the Albanian word for lion,Luana could mean Lioness.



https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/luan




The legend is about the Walati(Proto-Romanian) populations, fighting against Mongols.




The Lion as a symbol was used by many populations,The Crusaders,Byzantine Army,Asens(Kaloyan),leaders from Rhodopes,Macedonia,Despotate of Epirus,etc,in the time of the Romanian-Vlach military category.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6mNh_6OslNI



https://books.google.ro/books?id=DO...QAQ#v=onepage&q=lion kaloyan heraldry&f=false
 
You are still doing this cheap trick,waiting for somebody to type the name inside,then,follow him on his own PC...



I thought that Maramures had a rich tradition in Romanians-Vlachs.



If you are continuing in behaving like stealthy gremlins....
 
You are still doing this cheap trick,waiting for somebody to type the name inside,then,follow him on his own PC...


I thought that Maramures had a rich tradition in Romanians-Vlachs.



If you are continuing in behaving like stealthy gremlins....

You are ok?! What are you talking about?
 
The Wallachian eagle can't come from a partridge,because Fogoras/Fagaras is the Hungarian for The Partridge Land,like Felmer says, the original term used at that time was Tara Oltului(Olt country).



Plus,the Romanian word,potarniche is kept from Latin(q -p shift) and the earliest Albanian symbol,from a church,could be a rock partridge,that's why Fagaras is a Hungarian translation from Romanian.
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https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/potârniche
 
The shepherd Bucur who has founded Bucharest came from Muntii Buzaului,proved by the places like Bucur's Table,Bucur's Cascades, etc,and many legends about him in that area.


Bucur used to sing so nice from his shepherd's flute,that,in one night,the local fairies, Zane,have visited and asked him to make a wish."Give me strength! ",he said,after returning to the sheepfold,the other men had started to hit him with the bats ,because was late.


But the young shepherd defended well know,defeated the others and force them to ask forgiveness.


Short time after,Bucur has enlarge his flocks and went down to the Buzau,Prahova,Ialomita valleys,reaching Dambovita's Ford in Codrii Vlasiei.


Then,he started to build huts,after, houses,for the children and grandsons,lastly,a church.
 
Dreptul, the ethymology of Buzau, Buzaului?
 



Very interesting is the distribution of the name Barbat,with the main area located in the Southern Carpathians, mostly Valcea and Arges,also around Tara Oltului, the second spot is the Apuseni Mountains.



It can only partly prove Madgearu's claims,that the Litovoi and Barbat's group had moved eastwards* the river Olt,founding Curtea de Arges.



He went even further, saying that Litovoi was actually from Hateg,where his name is over recorded, in toponyms and onomastics,this was probably among the Transylvanian lands of the Wallachians,who were conquered by the Hungarian kingdom for a while.



*Still, I say that, most likely ,Arges and other Wallachian lands located more eastwards were also parts of Litovoi's state, they just moved the center of power in a more convenient place,located southwards of another historical Proto-Romanian country called Tara Oltului, it doesn't really matter if they controlled this one or not;it is more eastwards than the Hungarian centers,that's why the defense could have been more effective, taking advantage of the longer road,as it happened with the ambush (ambushes) at Posada.
 
Other facts:



The name Ciobanu (The Shepherd) is most commonly used in Baragan,also appears in Central Moldavia, especially around Iasi.



Viezure,a Dacian name,Oltenia and Western Wallachia




Spulber,in South- Western Moldavia it makes sense since this is a mountain land and in my village the word is used for blizzard, winter ,snowy, wind.




https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/spulbera




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spulber




https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/viezure


Bucur,Bucharest area and the N,NE and E Wallachia.


https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/bucura#Romanian
 
Bunget is thick and dark forest, many times used as a shelter,refuge or hiding place.



The names are recorded in Central and Western Wallachia, plus Oltenia,we also have toponyms.



https://ro.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungetu,_Dâmbovița



https://ro.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pădurea_Bunget



Texts from Sadoveanu:



"I was lost through the bungets of those forests."



"The men entered the bungets and started to raze the hazel bushes with the axes".



" He raised his riffle on back,speed up his horse,until was lost in the bungets of the forest."


https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/bunget
 
Trasta in modern Albanian means straw basket IIRC. I think even Balts and mostly Latvians have similar cognates. This might imply Gatherers among the population, gathering either fruit or seeds/wheat/barley.
 
I suspect J2B2 was present ~>3300 years ago among proto-Thracian, proto-Illyrian/Pelasgian, proto-Dacian and Gaet populations... stemming from a common origin in the caucasus >4k years ago, and having taken two separate paths to the balkans, leading to the divide among Thracian/Dacian/Illyrian populations when they arriven the balaksn destination. One path of J2B2 would have taken would be around the black sea, through the Bassarabian gap in the Carpathian mountains as shephers, while the other path would have been through western Anatolia into Macedon - Vardar - Dardania. Hence the similarties, as well as the many differences from modern Romanian and Albanian, as well as the obvious pre-Slavic substratum in slavic languages today in the Balkans.

In Albanian Bregas, means costal people... Yet Breg, or Berg means Mountain and Castel in the respective proto-slavic and proto-germanic languages respectively. Bryges were indeed living in the coast, while Dardans were landlocked in Kosovo.

"Bryges or Briges (Greek: Βρύγοι or Βρίγες) is the historical name given to a people of the ancient Balkans. They are generally considered to have been related to the Phyrigans, who during classical antiquity lived in western Anatolia"

Thracian tribes, Pelasgian Tribes, were among the allies of the Troyans, among whom the Dardans were one of the two leading dynasties ~3300 years ago according to homer. Among the people that fought in the Trojan War these groups probably had an alliance based on common culture or shared values/ways of life, or even origin. If the hypothesis I gave above is to be taken seriously, J2B2 segment of Albanian population were similar in Blood and in language to the Thracians as well as Dacians and Gaets, so I would suspect J2B2 to be present among the pastoral communities in the region and possibly all the way to Ukraine, as well as Anatolia, with a common ancestor in Caucasus, yet differentiated do to the path they took into the Balkans to the point where Thracian and Illyrian had to be classified as different languages.
 

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