Vlach haplogroups & deep ancestry?

Two important words that Romanian-Aromanian shares with Albanian and Serbo-Croatian,both pertaining to the marshlands:
Romanian rata,Albanian rose,Serbo-Croatian raca,from Latin Anas,Anatea,cf. Wallachian dialectal form nata,with the usual n- r rhotacism, L fenestra,R fereastra.


I will add here words developed under this similar pattern:
Latin Aranea,Romanian raie
Latin Amurca,Romanian murg.


R. balaur,S-C blavor,A buljar,surely from a form of Latin beluaria,namely belluaria,because the single l would have disappeared(for the geminated,see L callis,R cale).



https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/anas#Latin


https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/belua


https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/bellua#Latin


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balaur
 
litovoi said:
two important words that romanian-aromanian shares with albanian and serbo-croatian,both pertaining to the marshlands:
Romanian rata,albanian rose,serbo-croatian raca,from latin anas,anatea,cf. Wallachian dialectal form nata,with the usual n- r rhotacism, l fenestra,r fereastra.
I will add here words developed under this similar pattern:
Latin aranea,romanian raie
latin amurca,romanian murg.
R. Balaur,s-c blavor,a buljar,surely from a form of latin beluaria,namely belluaria,because the single l would have disappeared(for the geminated,see l callis,r cale).
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/anas#latin
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/belua
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/bellua#latin
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/balaur
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In Vulgar Latin,the Greek borrowings have sounded unnatural for many times, with their typical prothetic vowels,that's why in lots of cases these will eventually disappear.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/amurca#Latin


https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/aranea


The same phonological character has been preserved in two placenames from the Danube area,namely the Motru river and Procopius' Motreses,having a Roman Dacia toponym as their origin,called Amutria.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amutria

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motru_River


http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Procopius/Buildings/4B*.html
 
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Wallach is just the Germanic name for the Romance speaking population of the Balkans, which was later adapted in Slavic languages as Vlach. During the Iron Age, that included the Romance speaking Dacians, Thracians, Illyrians, Greeks, Romans and what not. All modern people from the Balkans probably have some Vlach in them. Maybe that's the much needed element that will help achieve reconciliation in this corner of Europe :D

Romanians descend from Vlachs, some of whom were native to present day Romania, some who migrated from the South due to Slavic pressure, Cumans, Pechenegs and Slavs.
 
Litovoi said:
E-V13 scores more than 20% in the Western Wallachia, 2 samples from Martinez-Cruz and one from Cruciani 2004,while,for example, Cluj(M-C) and Ploiesti(Bosch) have this figure.
That's why I2a and even R1a are directly related to E-V13,within the Romanian-Vlach populations.
These haplogroups,no matter the origins,must be connected to certain ethnic,cultural ,realities,otherwise we gonna use mathematics/tables much more than law allows it to reach the same senseless results,"we are all from Africa" or "let me do a DNA test,then we talk about Renfrew or Anthony".
Connections between the Romanian-Vlach Y-DNA and autosomes were targeted by these two studies, Schmidt-Hoeckenbeck,"Genetic Studies in South Balkan Populations" and Bosch,Paternal and maternal...Aromuns",because,although we don't know if these share their samples,the same locations are being used,Ploiesti and Constanta,for the Romanians,Andon Poci,Kogalniceanu,Stip etc,for the Aromanians.
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About the regional breakdown of haplogroups in Romania, see the 2nd sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oc6XHFXRaZI4LBs28q4NnESRdCs8_35M8NNxZ5kyhKU/edit?usp=sharing
 
Litovoi said:
Having two words for scabies,raie and zgaiba ,automatically implies a crowded environment.


https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/scabies

https://www.healthline.com/health/scabies-bites

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/stds-hiv-safer-sex/scabies
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In Albanian we say zgjebe.
⟨gj⟩ is used in the Albanian alphabet for the voiced palatal plosive /ɟ/, though for Gheg speakers it represents /dʒ/. In the Arbëresh dialect, it represents the voiced velar plosive /ɡʲ/.
 
"Thus,the sense" to earn,to win" from Wallachia and Moldavia represents an innovation as against to "take care,guard" of the Latin castigare,which is preserved in the other Romanian dialects"(V.Fratila)

Facts(reality)

Actually the two senses come directly from Latin,it is clearly about separate developments,that I will easily explain.

The first,to win,has to be linked to both the Roman Army punishment called castigatio,particularly ,and,naturally with the other senses preserved in Romance,while "to earn" must be connected to the third meaning of the Latin root "to correct, to amend", that obviously leads us to the financial field,since we do have the Old Spanish castigar(to advise).

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/castigo#Latin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_military_decorations_and_punishments

https://books.google.ro/books?id=_Q...AegQIExAB#v=onepage&q=latin castigare&f=false
 
Saint Demeter's Fire,Sumedru:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ytohGSyv8Ug

It's a celebration where people are offering fruits,what makes this even more interesting ,the fact that Saint Demeter is the shepherds' protector and Latin fructus switched its sense in Romanian,I mean the term frupt refers especially to sheep products,dairy, and to non-fasting,seems a symbiosis between the worship of the Roman Pomona and Indo-European cults like Samhain.

http://en.povestidecalatorie.ro/the-fire-of-sumedru-an-old-romanian-tradition-of-2000-years-old/

https://www.romania-insider.com/sumderu-fire-saint-dumitru/amp/

http://goddesschess.blogspot.ro/2007/11/goddess-pomona.html?m=1

http://www.thaliatook.com/AMGG/pomona.php

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/frupt

Sumedru and other traditions from my father's village(Raul Doamnei area,the Wallachian core,firstly attested in the14th c.):

https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&sour...FjAAegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1c4geOrvPje_cpmjHB50zT
 
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About Vlachs and their relationship to Romanans, has any extensive genetic study been made to try to give another clue, one from the point of view population genetics, and not just from of historical linguistics', about the still widely discusse issue of the territorial origin of Proto-Romanian speakers? I find the evidences pointing out to an origin in the Central Balkans, a bit west and south of present-day Romania, quite overwhelming, and of course the still extant Vlach, Arumanian-speaking population there, near the supposed homeland, could give us good indications of the real historic past of the Romanian people.
 
The old man proudly and sprightly dances Calus,literally The Little Horse,obviously coming from the Danubian Knights,Thracian Horsemen, Epona and her Getic counterpart,easily to be recognized on the Rogozen Treasure,what makes these artefacts even more important are the depictions of certain Goddess riding,surrounded by the Romanian dragon,the balaur,who must have been originally a water dragon-snake,as the Latin belluaria and the Albanian meanings suggests, that got diversified,note the wolf and horse heads added on the golden items.

https://www.britannica.com/art/Morris-dance

http://www.sourcememory.net/art/thrace/goddesses.html

https://atlanticreligion.com/tag/danubian-horsemen/


https://books.google.ro/books?id=po...Q#v=onepage&q=latin belua sea monster&f=false


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balaur
 
http://apologetic.blog.bg/hobi/2017/01/01/votivni-obrochni-plochki.1500070

Horse-headed monsters also exists in the Celtic folklore, for example,Each Uisge,that has the den into the Black River.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Each-uisge

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea

Letnitsa(the girl seem Dinaric,like other precious Thracians,with the same honour,boldness and anthropological traits to be found on the Vinca terracotta figurines )

http://www.sourcememory.net/art/thrace/plaque.png

A little bit off-topic here,it seems that Blagotin has an original way of showing his love towards certain...people,I mean the words don't seem to count that much anymore, and if you eventually decide to use them,you have the same result.

http://oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.ro/2015/03/blagotin.html?m=1

https://natalijastojanovic.weebly.com/scientific-illustrations.html
 
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