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    Multiple choice; Where in Europe can Armenians and Georgians pass as natives?

    Multiple choice so you can choose several options. I made one about the Middle East and North Africa as a whole but this one is just for Armenia and Georgia.

    Some Armenians;



    Georgians;


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    More Armenians;


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    There isn't a box to tick for nowhere.

    To my eye these people above don't look like any European population, I think it is the nose that makes the difference. If I had to choose anywhere I'd say Lebanon, which isn't Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antigone View Post
    There isn't a box to tick for nowhere.

    To my eye these people above don't look like any European population, I think it is the nose that makes the difference. If I had to choose anywhere I'd say Lebanon, which isn't Europe.
    I think this applies more to Armenians than Georgians but that's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antigone View Post
    There isn't a box to tick for nowhere.

    To my eye these people above don't look like any European population, I think it is the nose that makes the difference. If I had to choose anywhere I'd say Lebanon, which isn't Europe.
    I agree with you.These photos look more Lebanese than anywhere else, IMO

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    Armenians are somehow 'darker' than Georgians. Most Georgians are even lighter/'whiter' than most folks from Spain, Greece, Central Italy etc... .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    Armenians are somehow 'darker' than Georgians. Most Georgians are even lighter/'whiter' than most folks from Spain, Greece, Central Italy etc... .

    Georgians still look West Asian to me but not Levantine-like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oreo_cookie View Post
    Georgians still look West Asian to me but not Levantine-like.
    Generally speaking, Armenians look more like the Lebanese or Cypriot whereas 'white' Georgians look more Polish or Eastern European. If I could have voted separately I would vote Poland or Romania for Georgians and Cyprus for Armenians. Armenians look similar to Turks, many have slanted eyes or Turkic facial features found in Eastern Anatolia. Georgians are stocky with large eyes and full lips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oreo_cookie View Post
    Georgians still look West Asian to me but not Levantine-like.
    Ok. I believe that Armenians are much more Asian/oriental looking than Georgians. Maybe you will change your opinion, if you travel to Tbilisi and see Georgians in real life.

    Georgians are NOT Indo-European but a Caucasian (from Caucasus) in race and language. While Armenians are Indo-European in language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    Armenians are somehow 'darker' than Georgians. Most Georgians are even lighter/'whiter' than most folks from Spain, Greece, Central Italy etc... .
    Georgians lighter than spaniards ? That's imposible. There was even a study about skintone and spaniards were as light as other West-Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm2 View Post
    Georgians lighter than spaniards ? That's imposible. There was even a study about skintone and spaniards were as light as other West-Europeans.
    Given what we know about autosomal DNA scores, yes, on average, that would be impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm2 View Post
    Georgians lighter than spaniards ? That's imposible. There was even a study about skintone and spaniards were as light as other West-Europeans.
    very surprising!
    the only results I have been for reflectance speak of Basques (might enough, this ones, yes) - have you a reference, a link to give me about other "Iberia" people?
    because if not all of them, I saw a lot of very dark 'olive' skin with Spanish: sure there are regionale and individual differences, but but...

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    But what I mean is, Georgians to me do not look any more Eastern European or Slavic than Armenians do.. they just simply don't look Lebanese-like the way Armenians do. Georgians have their own look that some Armenians share (the ones who don't look Levantine).

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    Quote Originally Posted by oreo_cookie View Post
    But what I mean is, Georgians to me do not look any more Eastern European or Slavic than Armenians do.. they just simply don't look Lebanese-like the way Armenians do. Georgians have their own look that some Armenians share (the ones who don't look Levantine).
    Ok you're right.

    Every nation looks something different than it's neighbour.
    Most Italians look very Italian, Most Greeks look very Greek, most people from Sweden look Swedish, East Europeans don't look like West Europeans, most folks from India look Indian, so Georgians look like Georgians.

    But is this a good or a bad thing, I mean diversity among men?

    All I know is that Georgians in general are 'whiter' than most Armenians, Turks, Persians, Kurds, etc.. But 'darker' than Russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oreo_cookie View Post
    But what I mean is, Georgians to me do not look any more Eastern European or Slavic than Armenians do.. they just simply don't look Lebanese-like the way Armenians do. Georgians have their own look that some Armenians share (the ones who don't look Levantine).
    Thats absolutely a wrong statement. Anyone familiar with Armenians and Georgians can tell that Georgians look more like Balkanians/Southeast Europeans as Armenians do. Also the Images presented here are not very representativ and create a false impression.

    Even putting Georgians and Armenians in the same category and asking with a poll were both could fit gives the wrong impression as if Georgians and Armenians are almost identical. But the reality is the genetic difference between Georgians and Armenians is as high as the genetic difference between German, French, Iberians or Italians.

    Armenians usually vary from very Levantine+Cypriot to very Anatolian, Caucasian or Iranian looking. Georgians look more like East or South Europeans with an Iranian or Anatolian touch.

    What I have noticed about most of Orea_Cookies threads is, she seems to have a clear picture in her head which she tries to impose on other by presenting relatively cherry picked images .

    Last edited by Alan; 30-11-14 at 22:54.

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    Hmmm.. It's very simple.. Not European.
    Nice girls anyway..
    The men .. It could take a long time, and a lot of conversation before I could consider them as "friendly".
    Some pictures show agression.
    I don't like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinaert View Post
    Hmmm.. It's very simple.. Not European.
    Nice girls anyway..
    The men .. It could take a long time, and a lot of conversation before I could consider them as "friendly".
    Some pictures show agression.
    I don't like that.
    I don't think they look extremely unfriendly but I've noticed a lot of people from SE Europe and West Asia have eyebrows that point down toward the middle and deep-set eyes that give an almost 'angry' look.

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    The main goal of Georgians is to join NATO & EU someday.


    What are pros and cons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    The main goal of Georgians is to join NATO & EU someday.


    What are pros and cons?
    Nato is bad.
    EU may be good in the future, if we kick Britain out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinaert View Post
    Nato is bad.
    EU may be good in the future, if we kick Britain out.
    I don't think EU will last forever. Because they will give EU officials to much power while rich countries like Holland will lose control over their internal economic affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinaert View Post
    Some pictures show agression.
    I don't like that.
    Lol, are you never agressive?

    EDIT. these are Armenians and not Georgians. (Armenian flag)

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    By the way Goga, I finally found an ethnic Georgian as I promised. Here you have the African similarity:

    North Africa: 66.55
    East Africa: 63.74
    South Africa: 63.63
    Central Africa: 63.60
    West Africa: 63.56

    As I pointed in the other thread, an ethnic Georgian increases the African similarity compared with the mixed one. Much more similar to Africa than Iberians, but more or less in the average of other Southern Europeans. It makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knovas View Post
    By the way Goga, I finally found an ethnic Georgian as I promised. Here you have the African similarity:

    North Africa: 66.55
    East Africa: 63.74
    South Africa: 63.63
    Central Africa: 63.60
    West Africa: 63.56

    As I pointed in the other thread, an ethnic Georgian increases the African similarity compared with the mixed one. Much more similar to Africa than Iberians, but more or less in the average of other Southern Europeans. It makes sense.
    Ok! Thank you very much.

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    It's this picture..



    I wouldn't like any of them as my neighbor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinaert View Post
    It's this picture..



    I wouldn't like any of them as my neighbor.
    This is one of these examples which are very badly chosen and give a false impression. The most "atypical" Georgians of all the group are the most highlited.

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