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  • Spain

    20 55.56%
  • Portugal

    16 44.44%
  • France

    1 2.78%
  • British Isles

    1 2.78%
  • Scandinavia

    3 8.33%
  • Germany

    1 2.78%
  • Italy

    11 30.56%
  • Sicily

    13 36.11%
  • Malta

    12 33.33%
  • Bulgaria

    6 16.67%
  • Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia

    6 16.67%
  • Greece

    7 19.44%
  • Russia

    2 5.56%
  • Ukraine

    2 5.56%
  • Romania

    6 16.67%
  • Hungary

    3 8.33%
  • Poland

    2 5.56%
  • Finland

    1 2.78%
  • Netherlands

    2 5.56%
  • Cyprus

    14 38.89%
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Thread: Where can North Africans pass in Europe?

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    Where can North Africans pass in Europe?



    My last of this type of thread. Multiple choice, as always.

    I am including all of North Africa in this.. Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians, Libyans, and Egyptians.

    Moroccans;


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    Algerians;


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    Tunisians;


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    Egyptians.. do they look different from other North Africans?


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    Libyans


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    Every anthropologist will say that they belong to a Mediterranean phenotype!
    Last edited by Goga; 24-09-11 at 05:58.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    Every anthropologist will say that they belong to a Mediterranean phenotype!
    Where would you fit them best, if you had to choose a couple of the places I listed off on the poll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oreo_cookie View Post
    Where would you fit them best, if you had to choose a couple of the places I listed off on the poll?
    Very north African.

    Like I said before, Eastern Euro's do look like Eastern Euro's, Southern Euro's do look like Southern Euro's, East Asians (from China) look like East Asians, West Asians do look like West Asian and North Africans look like North Africans.

    All these folks are a product of the climate and food of a place where they live!

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    Do you think Egyptians look significantly different from other North Africans?

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    I don't know. I was never in that part of the world, nor in Africa, nor in Arabia. So I can't see it. You should better ask someone from that region.

    Can you say what's a difference between a fella from Laos and a fella from Vietnam? But people who live there know the differences. This is what I mean, lol.

    All I know is that some Egyptians don't consider themselves as Africans, but more as Arabs / Southwest Asians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oreo_cookie View Post
    Do you think Egyptians look significantly different from other North Africans?
    They look a bit different than those from the northwest African areas.

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    Most North Africans cannot pass as local anywhere in Europe. Not a worthwhile discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgundis View Post
    Most North Africans cannot pass as local anywhere in Europe. Not a worthwhile discussion.
    I do not agree with you. If I look at this map these folks have between 20-30% and in some areas like north Algeria even 30-40% the Mediterranean admixture. So I guess that many North Africans share same DNA with Europe!


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    Also Europe has some African admixture.





    BTW, Egyptians have MUCH more West Asian admixture than other North Africans.


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    I think Algerians and Tunisians look pretty much the same, Libyans and Egyptians are similar, and Moroccans are most different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oreo_cookie View Post
    Where would you fit them best, if you had to choose a couple of the places I listed off on the poll?

    The Lybians you posted (especially the last two) look Sardinian.

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    They don't fit anywhere. And not in Southern-Europe. We have hundreds of thousands of North-African immigrants here and they are very distinguishable.

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    Quite ethnic Berbers can pass as natives in many different European areas. But they are actually a minority in North Africa.

    PD: The "some" North African admixture in Iberia an Italy is incredibly low. Ridiculous to consider this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knovas View Post
    Quite ethnic Berbers can pass as natives in many different European areas. But they are actually a minority in North Africa.

    PD: The "some" North African admixture in Iberia an Italy is incredibly low. Ridiculous to consider this.
    That is true. But North Africans also share elements with Europe that are not North African specific, i.e. the Mediterranean component, the SW Asian component and in the case of Egypt and Libya, some of the West Asian as well.

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    Yes. Of course you can find non Berber North Africans with European look. But in average I don't see nothing significant to consider they fit.

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    More pictures. These are Algerian and Tunisian.

    Algerians;




    Tunisians;


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    Egyptian Copts;



    As far as Copts go, some of them have Ethiopian-like qualities.


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    Oreo Cookie, what do you pretend with all these pictures ? They don't look european AT ALL.
    Obviously I didn't vote any option, as they don't fit anywhere in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    Oreo Cookie, what do you pretend with all these pictures ? They don't look european AT ALL.
    Obviously I didn't vote any option, as they don't fit anywhere in Europe.

    Not as groups but I think as individuals they probably could. Keep in mind, the concept of "passing" isn't the same as "looking identical to". Some would have you believe that phenotypes change the second you cross the Mediterranean but it's a gradual, not instant process. Same with Greece and Turkey in my opinion. You don't have German lookalikes on one side and Saudi lookalikes on the other.

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