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  • Russians

    2 6.06%
  • Poles

    2 6.06%
  • Croatians, Serbians, Bosnians

    5 15.15%
  • Bulgarians

    7 21.21%
  • Greeks

    13 39.39%
  • Sicilians

    21 63.64%
  • Albanians

    6 18.18%
  • Italians

    11 33.33%
  • Germans

    3 9.09%
  • Spaniards

    8 24.24%
  • Portuguese

    8 24.24%
  • French

    4 12.12%
  • Maltese

    19 57.58%
  • British

    2 6.06%
  • Dutch

    2 6.06%
  • Scandinavian (Swedish, Danish etc)

    1 3.03%
  • Czech or Slovakian

    1 3.03%
  • Cypriots

    23 69.70%
  • Hungarians

    2 6.06%
  • Other (specify)

    3 9.09%
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Thread: Final thread.. which Europeans overlap with Levantines? Multiple choice.

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    Final thread.. which Europeans overlap with Levantines? Multiple choice.



    Physically I mean. After this, I have no more questions.. but I think that unlike the North Africa thread, this one people can at least agree on one or two answers.

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    Btw for those of you who want an other/none option I included one.

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    Are there no photos to have an idea as a whole?

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    Lebanese


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    I don't know why are you so obsessed with the overlapping of non-europeans, seriously Oreo.

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    I voted for Cypriots, Maltese, Sicilians and Greeks. In the same order.

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    Mostly Eastern Med ethnicities - Greeks, Maltese, Sicilians
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    Greeks, Sicilians, Italians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Cypriots, Hungarians.

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    Possibly some Balkanites. No overlap with the western end of Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambrius (The Red) View Post
    No overlap with the western end of Europe.
    I agree with this.

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    Jordanians


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    Any other thoughts?

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    They look very Arabic to me and that's who they're: Arabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    They look very Arabic to me and that's who they're: Arabs.
    Surely you see different phenotypes comparing Levantines to Arabians though? "Arab" is more of a pan-ethnicity based on a shared language than a common ethnicity with a single phenotype. Lebanese people, for example, must inherit a lot of their genetic background from Phoenicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkey View Post
    Surely you see different phenotypes comparing Levantines to Arabians though? "Arab" is more of a pan-ethnicity based on a shared language than a common ethnicity with a single phenotype. Lebanese people, for example, must inherit a lot of their genetic background from Phoenicians.
    Many people think that Phoenicians were J2a folks from Northen Mesopotamia. I don't know how true that is. It seems that it is very popular that everybody link them to Northern Mesopotamia / Kurdistan. First we got Europeans who believe in the Anatolian hypothesis of INDO-Europeans, than the Jews claimed to be originally from Mesopotamia, then we got Arabs (J1 folks) and now the Levant folks?????

    Anatolia is a very popular place to claim your origin, lol!

    I don't know how Phoenicians did look like, but if they looked like the modern Levant population, I think that Phoenicians were Arabic (Semitic) too.

    The modern Levant population is an admixture of Semites (Arabs) and Greeks. But in their appearance they're closer to other Arabs than Greeks. The Levant folks have very much hg. E and J1 too.

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    Levantines would be descendants of northern Semites (Phoenicians, Canaanites etc) more than Arabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    Many people think that Phoenicians were J2a folks from Northen Mesopotamia. I don't know how true that is.
    They probably had some J2a4 like modern Lebanese people unless the dating of modern J2a4 doesn't allow for it, I'm not sure. Diversity of J1 in the region seems to be higher than diversity of J2 in the region, so they probably had more of that. I doubt there is an unexpectedly strong bond between Levatines and Northern Mesopotamians otherwise. R1b, G2a, E1b, T, and L were likely also significant, although I admit I haven't analyzed Levantine Y-DNA closely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    It seems that it is very popular that everybody link them to Northern Mesopotamia / Kurdistan. First we got Europeans who believe in the Anatolian hypothesis of INDO-Europeans, than the Jews claimed to be originally from Mesopotamia, then we got Arabs (J1 folks) and now the Levant folks?????
    It seems to me that you're being too sensitive to suspected encroachment onto Kurdish territory. Northern Mesopotamia was an important location in the development of agriculture, along with the rest of the Fertile Crescent, so it wouldn't be surprising to learn that early Northern Mesopotamians took that and spread elsewhere. That fact, if true, wouldn't take anything away from modern Kurdish land claims, don't worry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    The modern Levant population is an admixture of Semites (Arabs) and Greeks. But in their appearance they're closer to other Arabs than Greeks. The Levant folks have very much hg. E and J1 too.
    Levatines seem more intermediate between Greeks and Arabians to me... although I suppose I would pick Arabians if I had to pick which one they are closer to phenotypically. It's a close call.

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    Levantines have something unique though that you won't find in other groups I think.

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    Anything else anyone has to add?

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    I don't understand this type of survey. Here, everyone can vote on what he wants.

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    why not the opposite poll?

    which middle eastern or para Arabic populations looks like European?

    I would vote for wide Levantines Kurds etc

    or which European looks like Central Asian?

    Surely I would vote for Northern Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    why not the opposite poll?

    which middle eastern or para Arabic populations looks like European?

    I would vote for wide Levantines Kurds etc

    or which European looks like Central Asian?

    Surely I would vote for Northern Europe.
    With all due respect but Kurds in general do not look like Europeans (and Europeans do not look like Kurds). Kurds are Iranic peoples that look like other Iranic people in Asia & Caucasus. Overall Kurds do look like some Caucasian folks from the Caucasus and Iranic folks in West and Central Asia.

    The folks from the Levant speak Arabic and are also cultural and in appearance Arabs. If they ain't no Arabic who are??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    They look very Arabic to me and that's who they're: Arabs.
    The same to me. I Have a question, why do you think many spaniards, sicilians, portuguese looks like latam?

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