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    ->Giffard (can't post links excuse me, but there's a site on wikipedia)

    Seems like all these people have a common ancestor called Robert Gifford/Giffard who was born in 1096.
    One descendant has tested I-PF4088 (L160+ M26+), he's in the I2a Project.
    Still, very interesting to see M26 associated with norman ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armatus View Post
    ->Giffard (can't post links excuse me, but there's a site on wikipedia)

    Seems like all these people have a common ancestor called Robert Gifford/Giffard who was born in 1096.
    One descendant has tested I-PF4088 (L160+ M26+), he's in the I2a Project.
    Still, very interesting to see M26 associated with norman ancestry.
    The claimant seems to be someone named Jeffords who elsewhere (ySearch ID QED2J) only claims a lineage back to 1714, and the family name was still Jeffords then. So I'm skeptical. But if true, it looks like Hardinge Giffard may be of that lineage. So perhaps I'll add it to the maybes sometime.

    To me, that M26 cluster looks more Celtic than anything.

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    In the Serbian DNA Project we have recently received results of one Tesla from Lika region who was tested as I2a Dinaric South. Since the tested individual is of the same family from the same place as famous Serbian scientist Nikola Tesla, we can assumed that Nikola Tesla was I2a Dinaric South too. Of course we wait some more Tesla's to be tested, to strenghten our view.
    You can see Tesla's results here http://poreklo.rs/srpski-dnk-projekat/
    And about Nikola Tesla you may read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

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    Quote Originally Posted by iapodos View Post
    In the Serbian DNA Project we have recently received results of one Tesla from Lika region who was tested as I2a Dinaric South. Since the tested individual is of the same family from the same place as famous Serbian scientist Nikola Tesla, we can assumed that Nikola Tesla was I2a Dinaric South too. Of course we wait some more Tesla's to be tested, to strenghten our view.
    You can see Tesla's results here http://poreklo.rs/srpski-dnk-projekat/
    And about Nikola Tesla you may read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
    Wow, not just the same region, but the same exact tiny village as Nikola Tesla's ancestors! Rare name, tiny village... that's pretty conclusive. I'm tempted to go ahead and add him and only remove him if contradictory results come in.

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    One of the descendants of the head of the first Georgian Republic was tested and the result is I2c*-B

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noe_Zhordania

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkey View Post
    The claimant seems to be someone named Jeffords who elsewhere (ySearch ID QED2J) only claims a lineage back to 1714, and the family name was still Jeffords then. So I'm skeptical. But if true, it looks like Hardinge Giffard could be of that lineage. So perhaps I'll add it to the maybes sometime.

    To me, that M26 cluster looks more Celtic than anything.
    You're probably right, there is like 4-5% I-M26 in Normandy but the Jeffords sample doesn't match them very closely. Still weird that he uses 2 different ancestors. About the cluster i'm skeptical, the genetic distance between the individuals seems to high to link it with celts. I think it's still too ancient.
    But still, great find with Nikola Tesla, surely the most famous I2.

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    Armature; you are I-M26?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    Armature; you are I-M26?
    Yes, i am. M26+ L160+ PF4088+ and negative for everything downstream known yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardu View Post
    One of the descendants of the head of the first Georgian Republic was tested and the result is I2c*-B

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noe_Zhordania
    Wow! If someone is powerful and Georgian, they must be I2c.

    I'm having trouble finding a Zhordania or Jordania in FTDNA projects. Is this a 23andMe result or something?

    EDIT: Is he ySearch DUPCV?
    Last edited by sparkey; 11-11-13 at 19:58.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkey View Post
    Wow! If someone is powerful and Georgian, they must be I2c.

    I'm having trouble finding a Zhordania or Jordania in FTDNA projects. Is this a 23andMe result or something?

    EDIT: Is he ySearch DUPCV?
    Indeed we rule! :) :)

    Yes, DUPCV is him. In coming months his result will be available on FTDNA too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardu View Post
    Indeed we rule! :) :)

    Yes, DUPCV is him. In coming months his result will be available on FTDNA too.
    Great! Adding Noe Zhordania now.

    DUPCV has odd STR marker choices that make his result almost indistinguishable from a G2a result. I guess DYS385a=12 gives him away as I2c? Any idea if he's had SNP tests yet? The FTDNA results may be needed to clear all doubt if he hasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkey View Post
    Great! Adding Noe Zhordania now.

    DUPCV has odd STR marker choices that make his result almost indistinguishable from a G2a result. I guess DYS385a=12 gives him away as I2c? Any idea if he's had SNP tests yet? The FTDNA results may be needed to clear all doubt if he hasn't.
    No SNP tests so far but they are planned.
    His closest match is Tsistsishvili and other persons from that cluster.
    Yes, they are using that weird sequence of 17 STR markers :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardu View Post
    No SNP tests so far but they are planned.
    His closest match is Tsistsishvili and other persons from that cluster.
    Yes, they are using that weird sequence of 17 STR markers :/
    OK, let me know when the earliest new STR or SNP results come in, and hopefully he's not a G2a that just looks like an I2c. He's awfully close to ySearch 8H7ZR as is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkey View Post
    OK, let me know when the earliest new STR or SNP results come in, and hopefully he's not a G2a that just looks like an I2c. He's awfully close to ySearch 8H7ZR as is.
    I see.. right.
    I'll do that!

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    My y-haplogroup ist I2a2a (M223). My ancestors came from south-lower saxony, west of the Harzmountains, east of the river Weser in Germany. This is the absolut hotspot of my haplogroup in the world.
    Now my question: Why does nobody find any famous I2a2a (M223) carriers from (north)-Germany? Perhapst the Germans made less DNA-Tests than English or American?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesse View Post
    Why does nobody find any famous I2a2a (M223) carriers from (north)-Germany? Perhapst the Germans made less DNA-Tests than English or American?
    I think you've got it exactly right. Americans test the most by far, and even among Americans, those with English and Scottish ancestors are the most likely to test. I think Americans with colonial ancestry are also more likely than most other ethnic groups to be traceably related to a lot of people on their patriline, so there's a higher chance that one of them will be famous.

    You may be interested in the episode "The Dad's Line" of Meet the Izzards, where famous I2-M223 carrier Eddie Izzard finds that he is related to some M223 carriers with origins in Germany, and he meets one or two of them. They weren't famous, though, and I forget which region of Germany their ancestors were from.

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    Update: Added J. Gordon Coogler. My finding him was inspired by Hesse's request to look for some Germans. His line is German (originally Kugler) and the first notable German I2 I've found. Although, he's probably not what Hesse was looking for--he's not particularly famous and is famous for the wrong reasons, his ancestors are probably from southwest Germany rather than north Germany, and he's I2a-Din, not I2-M223, in fact a very unusual case of I2a-Din from early America.

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    Does anybody know the haplogroups of the Dukes of Brunswick-Lueneburg /Brunswick-Wolfenbttel - the also became Kings of England (for example King Georg) in the 18th century? They all came from Lower Saxony in Germany - perhapst they are I2a2a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesse View Post
    Does anybody know the haplogroups of the Dukes of Brunswick-Lueneburg /Brunswick-Wolfenb�ttel - the also became Kings of England (for example King Georg) in the 18th century? They all came from Lower Saxony in Germany - perhapst they are I2a2a.
    AFAIK, their haplogroup isn't known. For British monarchs, I believe we're relatively certain that the Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Wettin) line is R1b-U106, and the Stuart line is R1b-L21, but we don't have anyone tested from the Hanover line yet. See Maciamo.

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    Does anyone have info on I-P37.2*-west. haplogroup ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    Does anyone have info on I-P37.2*-west. haplogroup ?
    It's not really P37.2* anymore, we now know that it is CTS595+ (as is I2-M26), L1286+ (same as I2a-"Alpine"), and L233+ (its defining SNP, along with a related outlier).

    Unfortunately samples are somewhat scarce, but it seems fairly young, about as young as I2a-Din, and seems to me to have a geographic center somewhere around the Netherlands.

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    It is the most basal form of i2a, correct? I heatd it originated in north-central Germany

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    It is the most basal form of i2a, correct?
    No... it's a far downstream subclade, not very old.

    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    I heatd it originated in north-central Germany
    Very possible.

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