Thanks, Sparkey. Just trying to find our origin, something I can prove.
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Nevermind, I just found an article by the Bassett Family Association that confirms the Baron's family as belonging to that I2-L38 group. Added the Bassets under the noble families.
Thanks, Sparkey. Just trying to find our origin, something I can prove.
Here's an obscurely famous or famously obscure I2:
Col. Michael Christian Garber (1813-1881), a Virginian by birth who became a Free Soil newspaper publisher in Madison, Indiana and an early organizer for the Republican Party in his district. Was known for his strong opposition to Copperhead Democratic Senator Jesse D Bright over the slavery question, in the course of which he was stabbed by one of Bright's supporters. As a vindication, Garber was invited to be present in the Senate Chamber when the vote was taken to expel Bright from the U.S. Senate for his Confederate sympathies.
Served the Union during the Civil War as a quartermaster. Was promoted for "gallantry" (unusual in that position I think :)) at Mill Springs, Kentucky and promoted again after serving under Banks in the Red River campaign to become Quartermaster of the Army of the Tennessee. As a Union quartermaster, the latter post must have been the most demanding of any theater in the war due to the effectiveness of Nathan Bedford Forrest and his cavalry in cutting off supply routes. Garber finished the war as Quartermaster in the field for Sherman's combined army, which he accompanied in its march from Savannah, Georgia to Washington DC.
The STR of Garber's family is a very close match for my own, and since we bear the same surname that would almost certainly make him an I-BY446 (I2C1a2a1a).
Have you guys considered Bill Gates? His first known paternal ancestor according to geni is Eustace Gates b. 1580 High Easter, Essex, buried 1626 Coney Weston Suffolk. Family Tree DNA mentions as I-M223 Eustace Gates, b. 1566 Coney Weston. Once mentioned on the list as died in 1592. Some differences, but who knows.
It seems to be the same ancestor, with a different birth date estimate. Here is the pedigree for one of the I2-M223 Gates: http://www.ysearch.org/gedcom_show.a...&startposn=256
Same immigrant ancestor (Stephen Gates m. Ann Neave or Veare) as Bill Gates. He descends from a different son of that ancestor than Bill Gates, so it's a very distant cousin, but it's a promising lead, I'll try to research it sometime soon.
According to the Y-DNA testing of two illegitimate descendants of Prince Albert of Prussia (1809–1872), Geoffrey Rockel and Franz Rockel, the House of Hohenzollern would belong to haplogroup I2-Y7219 (downstream of L701 and P78). The Hohenzollern originated from Swabia in the 11th century, became Counts of Hohenzollern in 1204, then Margraves of Brandenburg in 1411, Dukes of Prussia from 1525, Kings of Prussia from 1701, and eventually German Emperors from 1871 to 1918 under Wilhelm I and Wilhelm II. The branch of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen also ruled as Kings of Romania from 1881 to 1947.
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I'm the guy who did that Bill Gates graphic, but could not post it here because I have not made 10 posts required to post links in the forum.
The graphic is crude and slightly unclear. It also lists William H. Gates Sr. twice by mistake.
Anyway, if you go to Bill Gates-profile geni.com/people/Bill-Gates/6000000002467188250 and follow the father-lineage all the way until Stephen Gates of Suffolk UK you will find match with the lineage from ySearch profile ID MGQC9. They both have Suffolk UK as place of birth and mother is named Mary, father is named Eustace. The year of births differ though by 14 years. But otherwise it seems like a good match. :)
I think I found the first I-L160 ones, not terribly famous, but it's something:
http://morrisondna.x10.bz/holmes/HolmesDNAProject.htm
https://holmesgenealogy.wordpress.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_H...lymouth_Court)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Haynes_Holmes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newland_H._Holmes
Perhaps US President James Monroe. He was a descendant of the Munro of Foulnis in Scotland who are mentioned as I-P37 on the Munro project of Family Tree DNA. Several men who appear to be his ancestors (Andrew Monroe, 1696-1735, George Munro, b. 1285 Foulnis Castle) are mentioned as such as well, although the dates don't match exactly with those on geni.
Another candidate is George Armstrong Custer (Battle of the Little Bighorn). Several descendants of his ancestor Paulus Kuster (b. 1644) have tested as I2.
Alexander Hamilton was probably not a descendant of the Hamiltons. The Hamiltons are probably R1b1a
The Hamilton family Y-DNA is probably R1b and not Haplogroup I.
I'm pretty sure that Alexander Hamilton like the majority of Hamiltons (at least those in the Clan Hamilton DNA Project) belongs to I1, more specifically I-L338 and I-Z63 clades. A number of descendants of Alexander Hamilton have tested and all were in the same subclade of I1.
Mountain Man Kit Carson may have belonged to I2. Descendants of his grandfather William Carson (b. 1715) and his uncles Uriah Carson and Andrew Carson have been tested as such by Ft DNA.
British actor Colin Firth descends from the Firth of West Yorkshire, England, who, according to the Firth DNA Project belong to I2a2b-L38> S2606>PH1237.
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Even though it was at a time reported on this forum (can't post link, it was posted in "Some more famous Y-DNA" thread) that Clint Eastwood is R1b, because of tested descendant of Israel Eastwood (b. 1718 d. 1794), there is also on the same project a result of descendant of Louis Eastwood (b. abt. 1746 d. 1829) which should be a son of aforementioned Louis. Taking into consideration that tested R1b Eastwood has no close matches among other tested R1b Eastwoods, while the tested I2a Eastwood undoubtedly matches other tested I2a Eastwoods, I think it is more likely that Clint Eastwood belongs to the haplogroup I2-L38>FT126347, to which the other I2a Eastwoods on their FT-DNA project also belong.
It is also said on this page (can't post link, it is on Eastwood genealogy website) that the three branches of Eastwoods were tested and that by the testing the common origin was confirmed (it is undoubtedly about I2a Eastwoods, which can be checked in the "news" section on Eastwood DNA project of FT-DNA), it is said there, among the other things, that the descendant of aforementioned Louis Eastwood was tested, as well as the fact that that without doubt applies to Clint Eastwood's ancestry as well.
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Dorde Petrovic is mentioned on this website as a member hg I2. What is not mentioned is that he was the founder of the Karadordevic dynasty, which has provided several kings of Serbia and Yugoslavia.
Somebody worth researching is Walt Disney. His family apparently hailed from Suffolk, before they moved to Ireland and then settled in the new world. The Disney Suffolks have been tested as I-M223 on FTDNA's Disney Family Project, but no individual ancestors are named.
Actor Kevin Spacey (real name Kevin Spacey Fowler) might belong to haplogroup I2a2a-L701>P78>S25733. He descends from William Fowler (c.1596-1660) from Aylesbury, England. A descendant of the same individual is listed in the Fowler Y-DNA project.
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According to this website, the following people also belong to haplogroup I2:
- Gleb Svyatoslavich, Prince of Novgorod (I2-Y3120)
- American essayist, lecturer, philosopher, and poet Ralph Waldo Emerson (I2-BY27818)
- American country musician Chet Atkins (I2-P37)
- American television host, comedian David Letterman (I2-M223)
- American actor William Hurt (I2-M223)
- American actor Patrick Swayze (I2-P37)
- Ukrainian singer Oleksandr Ponomariov
I don't know if someone brought this up in the thread but American Vice President Michael Pence. There is evidence he may belong to haplogroup I2 on the family tree DNA these two men are listed on the project
I went to look at Mike Pence's profile on Geni to see if I could figure out if these are paternal relatives
BD-Roots 811 -3.1.3.2.2- M223>...>Z2054>Y4746>Y9443>FT91761>L812>FT25845* (Group 3a3) - test Big Y 9915 Pence Rudolph Pentz b1713 Germany, d1791 NS Canada Germany I-M223 14 23 15 10 15-15 11 13 11 14 12 31 17 8-10 11 11 25 15 20 28 11-13-15-15 11 10 19-19 17 16 17 21 34-37 12 8 11 8 15-16 8 11 10 8 10 9 13 21-22 15 11 12 12 18 9 13 26 22 8 13 12 14 10 12 13 11 274551 Bentz Hans Benz/Bentz ca. 1590 Germany Germany I-FT25845 14 23 15 10 15-15 11 13 11 14 12 31 17 8-10 11 11 26 15 20 28 11-13-15-15 11 10 19-19 16 16 17 21 34-36 12 8 11 8 15-16 8 11 10 8 10 9 13 21-22 15 11 12 12 18 9 13 25 22 8 13 12 14 10 12 13 11 31 14 8 15 11 23 27 19 11 11 11 11 13 9 12 11 10 11 12 32 10 13 23 14 11 10 23 15 21 14 22 15 11 14 26 12 21 18 13 14 18 9 12 11
on geni his earliest ancestor in his father line is Michael Bentz b 1705 in Ellerstadt, Rhineland, Palatinate
I looked up the other Bentz/Pence and found Rudolph was also from the Palatinate like Michael Bentz. Could not find Hans anywhere
I have not done much research on this maybe someone else could
So basically other men with the same surname and origins in the Palatinate belong to I2.
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George Armstrong Custer (1839-1876) was a United States Army officer and cavalry commander in the American Civil War and the American Indian Wars. He famously perished at the Battle of the Little Bighorn after leading the 7th Cavalry Regiment of the U.S. Army against the combined forces of the Lakota, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapaho tribes. Custer was descended from Paulus Van Haren Küster (1644-1708) from Düsseldorf, Germany. Numerous descendants tested at the Custer DNA Project and were found to belong to haplogroup I2-L801 > Z161 > L623.
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