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    Previously unknown human population boom revealed by DNA

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...years-ago.html

    Previously unknown human population boom revealed by DNA: Massive expansion occurred 40,000 years ago

    • Scientists guess that baby boom occurred as our ancestors adapted to life away from the coasts



    DNA sequencing has revealed a previously unknown human population boom between 40,000 and 50,000 years ago, a new study claims.
    The sequencing of the Y chromosomes from 36 men has revealed a ten-fold increase in the number of genetic markers nearly 20,000 years after our ancestors first left Africa.
    Scientists believe the expansion could have occurred as our ancestors adapted to more rugged environments, allowing them to spread inland from coastal areas.

    'We have always considered the expansion of humans out of Africa as being the largest population expansion of modern humans, but our research questions this theory,' said Wei Wei of the West China University of Medical Sciences.
    'The out-of-Africa expansion, which happened approximately 60,000 years ago, was extremely large in geographical terms with humans spreading around the globe.
    'Now we’ve found a second wave of expansion that is much larger in terms of human population growth and occurred over a very short period, somewhere between 40,000 to 50,000 years ago.'

    The newly discovered population boom occurred between the first expansion of modern humans out of Africa and the Neolithic expansions which began 10,000 years ago with the advent of farming.
    There is no obvious archaeological event that would explain why this sudden expansion in the human population occurred, the researchers reported.

    One possible theory they have advanced is that during the original out-of-Africa expansion, humans moved along the coastlines of the world, settling as they went.
    Their origins and genetic makeup would mean that these people were suited to coastal life, but not to the demands of living inland. This would have prevented large population growth as the coasts could only sustain a certain number of people.
    'We think this second, previously unknown population boom, may have occurred as humans adapted to their new environment after the first out-of-Africa expansion,' said Dr Qasim Ayub, from the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute.
    'We think that when humans moved from the horn of Africa to Asia, Australia and eventually Europe, they remained in small groups by the coasts.
    'It took them tens of thousands of years to adapt to the mountainous, forested surroundings on the inner continents.
    'However, once their genetic makeup was suited to these new environments, the population increased extremely rapidly as the groups travelled inland and took advantage of the abundance of space and food.'
    The work highlights how it is now possible to obtain new biological insights from existing DNA sequencing data sets, and the value of sharing data.
    The majority of the DNA information used for this study was obtained from freely-available online data-sets and the researchers claim it is the first time anyone has used information from large-scale DNA sequencing to create an accurate family tree of the Y chromosome, from which the inferences about human population history could be made.

    Since the Y chromosome is found only in men, its history and evolution are easy to study and interpret.
    This study also highlights how information generated by other genetic studies, in this case by the company Complete Genomics, can be used to investigate human genetic archaeology.
    The lengths between the branches and the length of each branch on the Y chromosome family tree provide insights into the evolution of the human population.
    The closer the branches are, the more rapidly the population was expanding and separating, most likely into different geographic areas. The longer the branch length, the greater the time that group of people have been separated from the other groups.
    Dr Chris Tyler-Smith, lead author from the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, said: 'We have provided a nearly ten-fold increase in the number of genetic markers found on Y chromosomes and discovered new historical insights into the evolution of modern humans using DNA sequencing information from just 36 men.
    'We now want to look at ten times this number of Y chromosomes in data from the 1000 Genomes Project. Who knows what we will find then?'
    The findings have been published in the journal Genome Research.




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    No one continued this post. i would like to point that between 40 000 and 50 000 years ago is the moment modern humans were able to successfully compete Neandertals in Europe. The expansion might therefore be related to the ability to adapt to colder lands, possibly because of adapted clothes. An improvement such as the needle could do it... Oldest known needles are 40 000 years old.

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    It seems homo sapiens crowded out the Neanderthals. Seeing that there no Y-Dna of Neanderthals surviving maybe Homo Sapiens took all their female members, the female members chose to be with the more gracile humans or the Neanderthals all daughtered out.

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    humans left africa 100,000ybp not 50,000ybp the mongloid oecanai race was already in india 80,000ybp they where already sperate from Caucasians and i dont know how accurate this is and how do u identify humans adapting and how do u knwo they would need to adapt to a ruged environment all of this kind of sound like exaggeration and people wishing they can figure out what happened in humans 50,000ybp but it is more complicated

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    Quote Originally Posted by diverclic View Post
    No one continued this post. i would like to point that between 40 000 and 50 000 years ago is the moment modern humans were able to successfully compete Neandertals in Europe. The expansion might therefore be related to the ability to adapt to colder lands, possibly because of adapted clothes. An improvement such as the needle could do it... Oldest known needles are 40 000 years old.
    I find it really funny they are talking about this increase of markers as if it is something that inexplicably happens and not something that often comes through recombination. Meaning if you had a big mixing event this is exactly what you'd expect to see.

    Similarly europe has more rare alleles than the rest of the world combined. This was theorized to be due to expansion, too, but the thing is we can compare it to other recent expansions and we see it generally leads to more homogeneity like in the chinese NOT to lots of random rare stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by oriental View Post
    It seems homo sapiens crowded out the Neanderthals. Seeing that there no Y-Dna of Neanderthals surviving maybe Homo Sapiens took all their female members, the female members chose to be with the more gracile humans or the Neanderthals all daughtered out.
    By time the eastern/modern looking humans arrived in europe there were so few neanderthal left it's no surprise no Y-DNA or mtDNA has been found even if you go on the silly assumption that it's a neutral marker and not one of the most heavily selected parts of the genome. Especially if they are just introgressing a few at a time into existing populations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired View Post
    humans left africa 100,000ybp not 50,000ybp the mongloid oecanai race was already in india 80,000ybp they where already sperate from Caucasians and i dont know how accurate this is and how do u identify humans adapting and how do u knwo they would need to adapt to a ruged environment all of this kind of sound like exaggeration and people wishing they can figure out what happened in humans 50,000ybp but it is more complicated
    If they even left africa at all, it's pointless to come up with these nonsense timelines based on genetic data, archaoeology is only way to prove any of this (and it all point to opposite so far as I can tell, that sub saharan africa is a dead end like the americas, not an origin point of anything). Not even to prove it but to come up with some kind of evidence, and it would take a lot to establish a timeline.

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