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    Since I haven't actually done a test kit myself, but I've done all four grandparents... I'll have to use their data all together.


    PGM:

    Population
    Amerindian 14.82
    Arabian 1.13
    Armenian 1.55
    Basque 4.01
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 6.15
    East_African 3.97
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 1.61
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 1.88
    East_Med 3.58
    Eastern_Euro 0.79
    Fennoscandian 1.61
    French 7.43
    Iberian 14.87
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 5.85
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 1.11
    North_African 2.26
    North_Atlantic 4.82
    North_Caucasian 0.35
    North_Sea 1.51
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy 0.73
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African 14.16
    West_Caucasian 2.70
    West_Med 3.09


    PGF:
    Being processed, 23andme says:


    99.5%
    European

    Northwestern European
    55.7%
    British & Irish
    9.2%
    French & German
    30.7%
    Broadly Northwestern European

    Southern European
    0.1%
    Iberian
    0.7%
    Broadly Southern European
    0.8%
    Eastern European
    2.2%
    Broadly European
    0.3%
    Sub-Saharan African
    0.1%
    West African
    0.2%
    Broadly Sub-Saharan African
    0.2%
    Middle Eastern & North African
    0.1%
    North African
    < 0.1%
    Broadly Middle Eastern & North African
    < 0.1%
    Unassigned




    MGM:

    Population
    Amerindian 0.52
    Arabian 0.53
    Armenian 1.55
    Basque 0.26
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 3.90
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 7.43
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 9.16
    Fennoscandian 2.64
    French 6.19
    Iberian 12.40
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 5.00
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 15.33
    North_Caucasian 4.00
    North_Sea 9.83
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian 15.83
    South_Central_Asian 5.08
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 0.22
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 0.11
    West_Med -


    MGF:

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 2.13
    Central_African 0.65
    Central_Euro 2.13
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 4.34
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 7.25
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian 5.66
    French 6.10
    Iberian 11.47
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 16.78
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 10.94
    North_Caucasian 3.52
    North_Sea 15.08
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy 0.69
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 3.27
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African 8.79
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 1.16


    So, basically.. Mongreloid.

    23andme and Eugogenes K36 give quite different results in some cases, though. I am a real amateur when it comes to DNA anything.

    The Iberian and Italian on the MGM results doesn't show up in 23andme at all..

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    Basque 0.34
    Eastern_Euro 0.69
    Volga-Ural 1.26
    South_Central_Asian 1.30
    East_Central_Euro 1.40
    Fennoscandian 1.42
    North_Caucasian 2.11
    Arabian 2.88
    West_Caucasian 3.22
    West_Med 3.51
    North_Sea 3.88
    French 4.50
    Central_Euro 4.76
    East_Balkan 5.10
    Armenian 5.31
    North_Atlantic 6.55
    Near_Eastern 7.22
    Iberian 7.60
    East_Med 16.40
    Italian 20.56

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    1 members found this post helpful.
    everyone got very cool results :)
    here is mine :
    { no north atlantic , north sea, finnish at all }
    Population
    Amerindian-
    Arabian 2.80
    Armenian 5.17
    Basque-
    Central_African-
    Central_Euro 4.36
    East_African-
    East_Asian-
    East_Balkan 4.51
    East_Central_Asian-
    East_Central_Euro 4.50
    East_Med 16.16
    Eastern_Euro1.01
    Fennoscandian-
    French0.55
    Iberian 14.73
    Indo-Chinese-
    Italian 14.60
    Malayan-
    Near_Eastern 14.89
    North_African 2.14
    North_Atlantic0.56
    North_Caucasian 6.52
    North_Sea-
    Northeast_African-
    Oceanian-
    Omotic-
    Pygmy-
    Siberian-
    South_Asian-
    South_Central_Asian 1.70
    South_Chinese-
    Volga-Ural-
    West_African-
    West_Caucasian 1.80
    West_Med 4.01

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    p.s
    dear valerius can you please post yours i am intrested to see vlach eurogenes k36 results :)

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    I'm macedonian, here's mine
    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 0.29
    Armenian 3.66
    Basque 3.88
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 5.25
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 5.42
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 9.37
    East_Med 5.43
    Eastern_Euro 10.67
    Fennoscandian 2.78
    French 4.64
    Iberian 3.14
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 23.84
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 7.80
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 5.10
    North_Caucasian 3.33
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 1.00
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 1.60
    West_Med 2.76

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    2 members found this post helpful.
    kingjohn, I'm macedonian however a lot of the modules on gedmatch plot me closer to romanian than macedonian at times... considering how high the italian percentage is in my k36 breakdown, i might venture a guess that there is some vlach ancestry there, incase you're curious! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by selectivememri View Post
    kingjohn, I'm macedonian however a lot of the modules on gedmatch plot me closer to romanian than macedonian at times... considering how high the italian percentage is in my k36 breakdown, i might venture a guess that there is some vlach ancestry there, incase you're curious! :)

    How are these percentages determined anyway? Genetic distance on other calculators seem distant for Italian. Yet my result is roughly 30 percent for the Italian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selectivememri View Post
    kingjohn, I'm macedonian however a lot of the modules on gedmatch plot me closer to romanian than macedonian at times... considering how high the italian percentage is in my k36 breakdown, i might venture a guess that there is some vlach ancestry there, incase you're curious! :)

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian 2.41
    Basque 2.74
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 4.97
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 7.48
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 6.10
    East_Med 10.53
    Eastern_Euro 4.01
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian 10.91
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 30.69
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 3.12
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 3.38
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 5.47
    West_Med 8.16

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    MtDNA haplogroup
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    Ethnic group
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    Country: Italy



    My Results

    Population
    Amerindian-
    Arabian 2.82
    Armenian 3.24
    Basque 1.27
    Central_African-
    Central_Euro3.01
    East_African-
    East_Asian-
    East_Balkan 7.29
    East_Central_Asian-
    East_Central_Euro 0.60
    East_Med 19.82
    Eastern_Euro-
    Fennoscandian-
    French 2.00
    Iberian 15.27
    Indo-Chinese-
    Italian 20.50
    Malayan-
    Near_Eastern 11.69
    North_African 3.11
    North_Atlantic 0.38
    North_Caucasian-
    North_Sea 3.16
    Northeast_African-
    Oceanian-
    Omotic-
    Pygmy-
    Siberian-
    South_Asian-
    South_Central_Asian-
    South_Chinese-
    Volga-Ural-
    West_African-
    West_Caucasian0.94
    West_Med4.91

    Does it make sense that my East Med is really high? I noticed from looking at the other posts that I have the most, and what is the sample for the Italian?

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    ^ I think its the combined Near Eastern East Med that is kinda high. I have 16% East Med, and Im still between Tuscans and Jews. Joey had less East med, but way more Near Eastern, and Caucasian. You on the other hand, little Caucasian, and Armenian. You average out the same, but you have a different regional mix. Basically, you have more Cyprus and less West Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Englander View Post
    ^ I think its the combined Near Eastern East Med that is kinda high. I have 16% East Med, and Im still between Tuscans and Jews. Joey had less East med, but way more Near Eastern, and Caucasian. You on the other hand, little Caucasian, and Armenian. You average out the same, but you have a different regional mix. Basically, you have more Cyprus and less West Asian.
    Makes sense what you are saying, ironically if you add all my Near Eastern, East Med, Caucasian, North African, Armenian and Arabian it equals only 3% more Middle Eastern than Ftdna and Nat Geo gives me, possibly there is something in this calculator? Dating ancient and more recent migrations, I would think that my increased East Med has to do with my Y-line.

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    The reason could be that because iberians share same ancestry with Germans, specifically EEHG, and because it is found in both modern populations, it would not be easy to separate origin from either, since the origin is actually in both, therefore the denomination is shared, which imo is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody1 View Post
    Absolutely nothing;
    Considering that the source (Eurogense) is just an amateur/hobby internet blog and not a serious academic source; Get tested by a proper institution and dont even bother with such iss;
    The reason could be that because iberians share same ancestry with Germans, specifically EEHG, and because it is found in both modern populations, it would not be easy to separate origin from either, since the origin is actually in both, therefore the denomination is shared, which imo is correct.

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    Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions


    This utility uses the Eurogenes K36 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
    should be directed to him at his Eurogenes Genetic Ancestry Project blog.

    Kit Number: T316082 Elapsed Time: 41.76 seconds


    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 2.81
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 3.02
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 1.11
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 9.48
    East_Med 0.57
    Eastern_Euro 3.58
    Fennoscandian 10.97
    French 9.48
    Iberian 9.88
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 14.38
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 15.19
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea 17.23
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 2.30




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    Scores for Ancients

    Mesolithic Georgia. Kotias.
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian 1.39
    Basque -
    Central_African 2.25
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian -
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian 47.96
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 10.17
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 38.24
    West_Med -

    Neolithic Iran.
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian 12.74
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med 5.22
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian -
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 2.33
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 65.71
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African 0.89
    West_Caucasian 13.10
    West_Med -

    Natufian.
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 33.89
    Armenian -
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med 10.84
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian -
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 16.30
    North_African 19.86
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African 7.46
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 11.65

    Barcin Neolithic.
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 3.42
    Armenian -
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med 21.37
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian 7.12
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 32.35
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 5.48
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 30.28


    EHG.
    Amerindian 10.37
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 18.50
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 24.31
    Fennoscandian 24.16
    French -
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian -
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 1.03
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea 8.31
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 4.45
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 8.88
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med -

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    Neolithic Ireland.
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 6.05
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 0.49
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French 2.46
    Iberian 37.58
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 23.66
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African 4.96
    North_Atlantic 1.46
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 23.3

    Neolithic Germany.
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 8.65
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 0.12
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French 4.31
    Iberian 27.38
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 30.62
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African 1.43
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 27.48


    Chalcolithic Spain. Notes the drop in Italian, raise in Iberian.
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 11.56
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French 0.08
    Iberian 52.24
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 3.72
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 32.4


    Chalcolithic Italy.
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 9.34
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian 28.02
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 28.18
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 34.4

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    Here are my results... What do you guys think?

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 0.61
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 8.14
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 2.23
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 6.27
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 6.38
    Fennoscandian 7.56
    French 11.52
    Iberian 10.69
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 12.89
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 15.76
    North_Caucasian 0.84
    North_Sea 17.06
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med -

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    MtDNA haplogroup
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    Ethnic group
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    I ran mine via the new russian system for K36 ..........with gaussian

    4 Ancestors Oracle
    Version 0.97 by Alexandr Burnashev

    Data file is CUsers\Public\Documents\k36_v1_.txt
    36 components mode.
    Population data has been read. 262 populations found.
    Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
    Person: Test2.txt
    Threshold of components set to 0.25%


    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 IT_Veneto @ 8.40642
    2 IT_North @ 10.091398
    3 IT_Friuli @ 11.060478
    4 CH_Ticino @ 12.11176
    5 IT_Tuscany @ 12.531345
    6 IT_MArche @ 12.987449
    7 Albania_Montenegro @ 13.06503
    8 Austria_Tyrol @ 13.71578
    9 FR_Corsica @ 14.508511
    10 Kosovo @ 14.732761
    11 Albania_North @ 14.791883
    12 France_South @ 15.113475
    13 Montenegrian @ 15.134926
    14 Albania_FYROM @ 15.421311
    15 Gr_Eubea @ 15.812344
    16 Romania @ 15.841008
    17 Albania_South @ 15.864031
    18 France @ 15.916622
    19 Greek_Macedonia @ 16.586029
    20 German @ 16.691566
    262 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 8.40642
    2 FR_Corsica+Austria_Tyrol @ 8.739587
    3 IT_North+IT_Veneto @ 8.819667
    4 IT_MArche+IT_Veneto @ 9.005173
    5 FR_Corsica+German_SouthWest @ 9.125312
    6 FR_Corsica+Man_Isle @ 9.152439
    7 FR_Corsica+German @ 9.171791
    8 Albania_South+France_NorthWest @ 9.175757
    9 IT_MArche+Austria_Tyrol @ 9.226387
    10 Albania_North+France @ 9.273437
    11 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto @ 9.276563
    12 IT_Veneto+IT_Friuli @ 9.283377
    13 Albania_North+France_South @ 9.301463
    14 IT_Veneto+CH_Ticino @ 9.307572
    15 IT_Tuscany+German @ 9.348928
    16 Albania_North+France_NorthWest @ 9.374347
    17 Albania_FYROM+France_NorthWest @ 9.389754
    18 Albania_Montenegro+France_South @ 9.396194
    19 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica @ 9.408374
    20 IT_Tuscany+Man_Isle @ 9.420002
    34453 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% FR_Corsica +25% IT_Veneto +25% Orcadian @ 7.706448
    2 50% FR_Corsica +25% Albania_FYROM +25% Orcadian @ 7.796649
    3 50% FR_Corsica +25% IT_Friuli +25% Orcadian @ 7.80755
    4 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% Man_Isle @ 7.834153
    5 50% FR_Corsica +25% Montenegrian +25% Orcadian @ 7.844232
    6 50% FR_Corsica +25% Albania_Montenegro +25% Orcadian @ 7.86419
    7 50% FR_Corsica +25% Albania_North +25% Orcadian @ 7.908374
    8 50% IT_Tuscany +25% IT_Veneto +25% Orcadian @ 7.969025
    9 50% FR_Corsica +25% IT_Friuli +25% Scotland @ 8.001149
    10 50% FR_Corsica +25% Montenegrian +25% Scotland @ 8.001901
    11 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% France_NorthWest @ 8.009426
    12 50% IT_Tuscany +25% Albania_Montenegro +25% Orcadian @ 8.013193
    13 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% German_SouthWest @ 8.014835
    14 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% Orcadian @ 8.02725
    15 50% IT_Tuscany +25% Albania_FYROM +25% Orcadian @ 8.04483
    16 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% Austria_Tyrol @ 8.062524
    17 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% German @ 8.078553
    18 50% IT_Tuscany +25% Albania_North +25% Orcadian @ 8.081337
    19 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_MArche +25% Man_Isle @ 8.084966
    20 50% FR_Corsica +25% Albania_FYROM +25% Scotland @ 8.09227
    5724765 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 IT_Tuscany+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Orcadian @ 7.626517
    2 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+Scotland @ 7.677429
    3 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+Orcadian @ 7.679282
    4 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Orcadian @ 7.706448
    5 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+Ireland @ 7.710502
    6 IT_Tuscany+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+Orcadian @ 7.711674
    7 IT_Tuscany+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+Orcadian @ 7.729475
    8 CH_Ticino+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+Orcadian @ 7.735922
    9 Gr_Eubea+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Scotland @ 7.748646
    10 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+Orcadian @ 7.773242
    11 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+Scotland @ 7.77631
    12 IT_Tuscany+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+Orcadian @ 7.787271
    13 FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+Orcadian @ 7.796649
    14 IT_Tuscany+IT_Friuli+FR_Corsica+Orcadian @ 7.798735
    15 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+France_NorthWes t @ 7.801078
    16 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+France_Nor thWest @ 7.802114
    17 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+Wales @ 7.803624
    18 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+Ireland @ 7.805692
    19 IT_Friuli+FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Orcadian @ 7.80755
    20 CH_Ticino+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+Orcadian @ 7.807696
    21 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_South+Orcadian @ 7.81603
    22 IT_North+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+Orcadian @ 7.833217
    23 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Man_Isle @ 7.834153
    24 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+British_mixed @ 7.83623
    25 IT_MArche+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Orcadian @ 7.843071
    26 FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Montenegrian+Orcadian @ 7.844232
    27 Gr_Eubea+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Orcadian @ 7.852348
    28 FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+Orcadian @ 7.86419
    29 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+France_NorthWes t @ 7.870779
    30 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_South+Scotland @ 7.894226
    31 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+Wales @ 7.899939
    32 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+Man_Isle @ 7.906332
    33 IT_North+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+Orcadian @ 7.908139
    34 FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+Orcadian @ 7.908374
    35 IT_Tuscany+FR_Corsica+Montenegrian+Orcadian @ 7.910378
    36 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+Scotland @ 7.912316
    37 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+British_mixed @ 7.915588
    38 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_South+Ireland @ 7.916662
    39 IT_Tuscany+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+Scotland @ 7.923726
    40 IT_Veneto+IT_Friuli+FR_Corsica+Man_Isle @ 7.929453
    95110100 iterations.


    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0.130062

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 IT_Veneto @ 4.137262
    2 IT_North @ 4.648118
    3 IT_Friuli @ 4.743381
    4 Albania_Montenegro @ 5.306202
    5 IT_Tuscany @ 5.728056
    6 Austria_Tyrol @ 5.732148
    7 Albania_North @ 5.780548
    8 Montenegrian @ 5.845064
    9 Albania_FYROM @ 6.066909
    10 Kosovo @ 6.136393
    11 Serbian @ 6.201231
    12 Macedonia @ 6.234121
    13 Romania @ 6.360973
    14 Spain_average @ 6.626297
    15 Greek_Macedonia @ 6.849896
    16 Croatian @ 6.961015
    17 Man_Isle @ 6.969322
    18 Albania_South @ 6.984576
    19 Greek_Peloponnes @ 7.022553
    20 German @ 7.067355
    262 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 4.137262
    2 IT_Veneto+CH_Ticino @ 4.262868
    3 IT_Veneto+IT_Friuli @ 4.289089
    4 GR_Epirus+France_NorthWest @ 4.307074
    5 GR_Epirus+FR_Normandy @ 4.336332
    6 IT_North+IT_Veneto @ 4.343393
    7 Albania_North+France_NorthWest @ 4.409826
    8 Albania_North+FR_Normandy @ 4.424372
    9 IT_North+IT_Friuli @ 4.428897
    10 CH_Ticino+Albania_Montenegro @ 4.434142
    11 FR_Corsica+Austria @ 4.439899
    12 Albania_North+France @ 4.441838
    13 IT_Veneto+Albania_Montenegro @ 4.459291
    14 IT_MArche+IT_Veneto @ 4.47319
    15 FR_Corsica+France_NorthWest @ 4.4741
    16 FR_Corsica+German_Volga @ 4.496637
    17 IT_Veneto+Albania_North @ 4.503044
    18 FR_Corsica+France @ 4.50608
    19 Gr_Eubea+France_NorthWest @ 4.512985
    20 IT_Friuli+CH_Ticino @ 4.515159
    34453 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% FR_Corsica +25% Macedonia +25% France_NorthWest @ 4.082925
    2 50% IT_Veneto +25% CH_Ticino +25% Macedonia @ 4.095143
    3 50% FR_Corsica +25% Montenegrian +25% France_NorthWest @ 4.108961
    4 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% France_NorthWest @ 4.128966
    5 50% IT_Veneto +25% GR_Epirus +25% France_NorthWest @ 4.149432
    6 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% Macedonia @ 4.149564
    7 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Veneto +25% Macedonia @ 4.152768
    8 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% British_mixed @ 4.153735
    9 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Veneto +25% CH_Ticino @ 4.157237
    10 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% Austria @ 4.16361
    11 50% FR_Corsica +25% IT_Veneto +25% Austria @ 4.163792
    12 50% FR_Corsica +25% Serbian +25% France_NorthWest @ 4.168548
    13 50% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica +25% France @ 4.171438
    14 50% FR_Corsica +25% Slovenian +25% France_NorthWest @ 4.171823
    15 50% Albania_Montenegro +25% FR_Corsica +25% France_NorthWest @ 4.172534
    16 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Friuli +25% CH_Ticino @ 4.174857
    17 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_Veneto +25% FR_Corsica @ 4.174878
    18 50% IT_Veneto +25% CH_Ticino +25% Albania_North @ 4.17961
    19 50% IT_Veneto +25% IT_North +25% Macedonia @ 4.18157
    20 50% IT_Veneto +25% Albania_North +25% France_NorthWest @ 4.184749
    7293756 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Macedonia+France_NorthWest @ 4.053541
    2 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+France_Nor thWest @ 4.070766
    3 FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Macedonia+France_NorthWest @ 4.082925
    4 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+France_NorthWes t @ 4.094082
    5 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+France_NorthWes t @ 4.094526
    6 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+CH_Ticino+Macedonia @ 4.095143
    7 FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Montenegrian+France_NorthWes t @ 4.108961
    8 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Macedonia+FR_Normandy @ 4.116827
    9 IT_North+FR_Corsica+Macedonia+France_NorthWest @ 4.120587
    10 CH_Ticino+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+France_Nor thWest @ 4.124819
    11 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Montenegrian+France_NorthWest @ 4.126058
    12 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+France_NorthWest @ 4.128966
    13 IT_Veneto+IT_Friuli+FR_Corsica+France_NorthWest @ 4.13073
    14 CH_Ticino+FR_Corsica+Macedonia+France_NorthWest @ 4.132115
    15 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+British_mixed @ 4.133187
    16 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto @ 4.137262
    17 IT_Friuli+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+France_Nor thWest @ 4.142241
    18 IT_Tuscany+FR_Corsica+Macedonia+France_NorthWest @ 4.143728
    19 GR_Epirus+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+France_NorthWest @ 4.149432
    20 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Macedonia @ 4.149564
    21 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+Macedonia @ 4.152768
    22 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+Wales @ 4.153613
    23 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+British_mixed @ 4.153735
    24 CH_Ticino+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+France_NorthWes t @ 4.154208
    25 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+CH_Ticino @ 4.157237
    26 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Macedonia+France @ 4.157854
    27 IT_Friuli+FR_Corsica+Albania_North+France_NorthWes t @ 4.159378
    28 IT_North+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+France_Nort hWest @ 4.16123
    29 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Austria @ 4.16361
    30 IT_Veneto+CH_Ticino+FR_Corsica+Macedonia @ 4.1637
    31 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Austria @ 4.163792
    32 FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Serbian+France_NorthWest @ 4.168548
    33 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_FYROM+British_mixed @ 4.169577
    34 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+British_mi xed @ 4.169738
    35 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+France @ 4.171438
    36 FR_Corsica+FR_Corsica+Slovenian+France_NorthWest @ 4.171823
    37 FR_Corsica+Albania_Montenegro+Albania_Montenegro+F rance_NorthWest @ 4.172534
    38 IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica+Macedonia+Belgium @ 4.172686
    39 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Friuli+CH_Ticino @ 4.174857
    40 IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+IT_Veneto+FR_Corsica @ 4.174878
    200713330 iterations.


    -Albania_Montenegro = Venetian Albania which is coastal Montenegro today.......inner Montenegro as per Venetian archives where comprised of 2 "duchies" , Hum and Zeta made up of Croatian and Serbian peoples.
    -IT-North = Lombardy and Piedmont regions.
    -GR_Epirus includes Corfu.
    -CH_Ticino includes East-Swiss.
    -Austrian_Tyrol includes North and East Tyrol.
    -Albania_FYROM = Macedonian Albanian or Western Macedonia.
    -Albania_South = Tosk Albanians.
    -IT_Veneto includes South Tyrol.
    có che un pòpoło no 'l defende pi ła só łéngua el xe prónto par èser s'ciavo

    when a people no longer dares to defend its language it is ripe for slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post

    -IT-North = Lombardy and Piedmont regions.
    -CH_Ticino includes East-Swiss.
    -IT_Veneto includes South Tyrol.
    As I know, IT_North is a mix of Northern Italians, CH_Ticino are Italians from Canton Ticino, IT_Veneto are only Italians from Veneto.

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    Sile, may I ask what your approx ancestry is? It's hard to tell from the oracle, also, how does one get on this new fangled system and get it to spit out gaussian results? i assume its behind a pay wall but i want in

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    Quote Originally Posted by selectivememri View Post
    Sile, may I ask what your approx ancestry is? It's hard to tell from the oracle, also, how does one get on this new fangled system and get it to spit out gaussian results? i assume its behind a pay wall but i want in
    Registry records from 1475 to present

    1475 Trentino/south Tyrol to ~1640 ..............towns of Dermulo, Smarano, tres, Val di Sol and Magre`

    1640 to present Treviso province in Veneto italy ..............towns of Schio ( vicenza) , Montebelluna, Trevignano, Paese, Morgano, Ponzano Veneto, Falze`and Villorba

    it is not behind a paywall


    http://k36.physical-anthropology.info/

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    I'm going to publish the Oracle files on Eupedia very soon. Just wait a bit.

    I will start a separate thread about it. :)

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    2 members found this post helpful.
    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 2.98
    Central_African 0.16
    Central_Euro 5.09
    East_African 0.06
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 0.70
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 6.84
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 4.55
    Fennoscandian 7.57
    French 6.13
    Iberian 13.76
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 10.39
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 16.35
    North_Caucasian 4.58
    North_Sea 17.34
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy 0.74
    Siberian -
    South_Asian 1.71
    South_Central_Asian 0.34
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 0.63

    I am an American who learned she is not a Cherokee princess. (Some of you will get that joke) I am still trying to get a handle on what is really happening here. I know some of it is noise and to take it with a grain of salt. As a 5'10" woman the Pygmy hit did make me giggle. :)

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    As you noticed Pygmy is rather incorrect, but together with Central African and East African it is 0.96% of Sub-Saharan African, which in my opinion is not noise (in other words - most certainly your SSA is not from actual Pygmies, but you do have around 1% of Sub-Saharan, it seems).

    I will give you an example of SSA that another North American person I know scores:

    Eurogenes K36 (23andMe kit) - 0.99% Central African
    Eurogenes K36 (Ancestry kit) - 1.12% Central African

    23andMe before phasing - 1.1% West African
    23andMe after phasing - 1.1% West African
    Ancestry.com DNA - 1% Southeastern African

    DNA Land (23andMe raw data) - 1.3% West African
    WeGene old (23andMe transfer) - 0.30% African
    WeGene new (23andMe transfer) - 0.10% African (Mbuti)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    As you noticed Pygmy is rather incorrect, but together with Central African and East African it is 0.96% of Sub-Saharan African, which in my opinion is not noise (in other words - most certainly your SSA is not from actual Pygmies, but you do have around 1% of Sub-Saharan, it seems).

    I will give you an example of SSA that another North American person I know scores:

    Eurogenes K36 (23andMe kit) - 0.99% Central African
    Eurogenes K36 (Ancestry kit) - 1.12% Central African

    23andMe before phasing - 1.1% West African
    23andMe after phasing - 1.1% West African
    Ancestry.com DNA - 1% Southeastern African

    DNA Land (23andMe raw data) - 1.3% West African
    WeGene old (23andMe transfer) - 0.30% African
    WeGene new (23andMe transfer) - 0.10% African (Mbuti)
    Thank you! I do feel like it could be something or noise since it was common to have some non European blood. I ran it through DNA Land and got the following:

    100% West Eurasian
    46% NW European
    25% SW European
    23% NE European of which 18% is Slavic and 5.4% is Finnish
    4.1% South Central European
    1.1% Ambiguous West Eurasian

    I will keep playing around with the calculators. On Interpretome I do not cluster on the European chart, but do on the Mideast and Asian ones around Turkey.

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