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    Albanian Autosomal DNA

    I have read a lot on here about Albanian origin and DNA with no sources or Science proof. I did a FTDNA Family Finder Autosomal test, and my result came out as
    80% South East Europe- Tuscan
    20% Europe- Basque, Finnish, French, Orcadian, Romanian, Spanish

    I also Had my result looked at by Dr. Douglas McDonald his result were
    Most likely fit is 11.1% Europe(Various subcontienents)
    and 88.9% Europe All south European(Tuscan)
    which is total 100%Europe.
    Last edited by Luan; 07-05-13 at 05:33.

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    I have done a FTDNA Family Finder test myself. I will post my results on this page as soon as they're out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gashi91 View Post
    I have done a FTDNA Family Finder test myself. I will post my results on this page as soon as they're out.
    Looking forward to seeing your results.

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    I have my results 09/06....urime..
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    Mund ta shohim si faqe ..per kuriozitet duke pritur tonat ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albania View Post
    Mund ta shohim si faqe ..per kuriozitet duke pritur tonat ?

    I think its best to write in english so others can read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luan View Post
    I think its best to write in english so others can read.
    Can we look your results page ..(curiosity), waiting for our results, thank you ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albania View Post
    Can we look your results page ..(curiosity), waiting for our results, thank you ..
    Check inbox. From were Albania are you from?

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    Europe Finnish, French, Orcadian, Romanian, Russian 23.20%
    Europe (Southern European) Tuscan 76.80%

    So I got my final results. All European

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    Quote Originally Posted by gashi91 View Post
    Uten navn.jpg

    Europe Finnish, French, Orcadian, Romanian, Russian 23.20%
    Europe (Southern European) Tuscan 76.80%

    So I got my final results. All European
    It seem that Albanian score high on Tuscan. Very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luan View Post
    It seem that Albanian score high on Tuscan. Very good.
    What would this eventually tell us?

    Who are these Tuscan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gashi91 View Post

    Who are these Tuscan?
    Theoretically, descendants of Etruscans. People try to link them with Pelasgians. Read about Lemnos Steele.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamani View Post
    Theoretically, descendants of Etruscans. People try to link them with Pelasgians. Read about Lemnos Steele.
    are you saying Albanians where proto-tuscans or ?
    Father's Mtdna H95a1
    Grandfather Mtdna T2b24
    Great Grandfather Mtdna T1a1e
    GMother paternal side YDna R1b-S8172
    Mother's YDna R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanipolo View Post
    are you saying Albanians where proto-tuscans or ?
    Today there is only distant connections. Proto-Etruscan connects with Pelasgian. Gheg Albanians are natives who found refuge from invasions in the Mountains, so I would expect Ghegs to score high on Tuscan. I would expect Tosks to have some French/German percentage, with the IE-Albanian-speaking elite coming from central-Europe.

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    I wonder is it normal for Albanians scoring so high Tuscan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luan View Post
    It seem that Albanian score high on Tuscan. Very good.
    You do know that this FTDNA PF test has for italy and the balkans has only 4 names. FOUR NAMES FOR SOUTHEAST EUROPE
    they are

    Sardinian = Sardinia and Corsica
    Romanian = Romanian and Bulgaria
    Italian = south Italy, Albania and Greece
    Tuscan = central Italy, north Italy and old Yugoslavian lands

    there really is no choice, besides its in Beta stage.

    DNATribes ( which NatGeno use ) has Albania, south Italy and Greece under the term GREEK

    If you want something better, place your gedcom in gedmatch and one of the other 4 autosomal companies....even these are not accurate.
    or better , get your chromosome painting checked by an expert for ancestry

    below ..all FTDNA PF

    Europe
    Northeast European
    Finnish
    Russian
    Southeast European
    Romanian
    Southern European
    Italian
    Sardinian
    Tuscan
    Western European
    Basque
    French
    Orcadian (Orkney Islands)
    Spanish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldritch View Post
    I wonder is it normal for Albanians scoring so high Tuscan?
    most likely he is old Montenegrin, Bosnian or Serb area...then again PF tests from FTDNA are still in beta stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanipolo View Post
    You do know that this FTDNA PF test has for italy and the balkans has only 4 names. FOUR NAMES FOR SOUTHEAST EUROPE
    they are

    Sardinian = Sardinia and Corsica
    Romanian = Romanian and Bulgaria
    Italian = south Italy, Albania and Greece
    Tuscan = central Italy, north Italy and old Yugoslavian lands

    there really is no choice, besides its in Beta stage.

    DNATribes ( which NatGeno use ) has Albania, south Italy and Greece under the term GREEK

    If you want something better, place your gedcom in gedmatch and one of the other 4 autosomal companies....even these are not accurate.
    or better , get your chromosome painting checked by an expert for ancestry

    below ..all FTDNA PF

    Europe
    Northeast European
    Finnish
    Russian
    Southeast European
    Romanian
    Southern European
    Italian
    Sardinian
    Tuscan
    Western European
    Basque
    French
    Orcadian (Orkney Islands)
    Spanish
    Yes i know this is family finder, i stated that in my first post. And i had my result looked at by an expert, dr. Mcdonald.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanipolo View Post
    most likely he is old Montenegrin, Bosnian or Serb area...then again PF tests from FTDNA are still in beta stage
    If you are refering to me, I am of kosovo old dardania area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luan View Post
    Yes i know this is family finder, i stated that in my first post. And i had my result looked at by an expert, dr. Mcdonald.
    Great, what did he give you for your bar chart and pin placing for ethnicity. ( i placed mine in this forum...I think it was the autosomal thread)
    I guess his comments where well received.

    As for you being dardanian, fantastic, then you are original ancient race, they fled into the albanian mountains after being attacked on 3 sides, by thracians, illyrians and macedonians all for that fertile land.

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    I agree with Zanipolo, it would be very interesting to see where McDonalds places you in the map and also your Gedmatch scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanipolo View Post
    You do know that this FTDNA PF test has for italy and the balkans has only 4 names. FOUR NAMES FOR SOUTHEAST EUROPE
    they are

    Sardinian = Sardinia and Corsica
    Romanian = Romanian and Bulgaria
    Italian = south Italy, Albania and Greece
    Tuscan = central Italy, north Italy and old Yugoslavian lands

    there really is no choice, besides its in Beta stage.
    If that is the case, then I guess this test would provide little evidence of pelasgian origin, since "tuscan" is such a general classification for so many people. I guess we have to let the ghegs be also Illyrian, not just pelasgian.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zanipolo View Post
    Great, what did he give you for your bar chart and pin placing for ethnicity. ( i placed mine in this forum...I think it was the autosomal thread)
    I guess his comments where well received.

    As for you being dardanian, fantastic, then you are original ancient race, they fled into the albanian mountains after being attacked on 3 sides, by thracians, illyrians and macedonians all for that fertile land.
    He gave me chart i dont know if i still have them in my mail, but the chart with the brightest color was in the north east italy. I will look in my mail again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luan View Post
    He gave me chart i dont know if i still have them in my mail, but the chart with the brightest color was in the north east italy. I will look in my mail again.
    You can also try GedMatch calculators.

    And if you find the chart post it here.

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    E12439 for autosomal-O36-results.csv.

    Most likely fit is 100% Tuscan (Southern Europe)
    that is 100% Total Europe
    The localization error = 0.005525 with one group

    The following are the possible populations
    probably at the top:
    Tuscan = 1.000

    and in fact, seems very nearly correct.

    Doug McDonald

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