Northern European Union

[Boss]

Aren't France and Germany in existence today?!

They are not Charlemagne's or Barbarossa's states.

 

[Illyricum Sacrum]

They are not Charlemagne's or Barbarossa's states.

Vallicanus Said

Name one modern successor state of the Roman Empire. Germany has been a part of Holy Roma Empire till the end
If you're looking for the exact defined boundaries that's a different story, since borders have been rubber-band throughout history.

 

[Boss]

Vallicanus Said

Name one modern successor state of the Roman Empire. Germany has been a part of Holy Roma Empire till the end
If you're looking for the exact defined boundaries that's a different story, since borders have been rubber-band throughout history.

No, not looking for the exact borders but the Holy Roman Empire did not include just modern Germany. It included parts of Italy, the Balkans, Central Europe & North Western Europe. So if you're gonna talk about ONE successor state (as opposed to many), why single out Germany?

 

[Illyricum Sacrum]

No, not looking for the exact borders but the Holy Roman Empire did not include just modern Germany. It included parts of Italy, the Balkans, Central Europe & North Western Europe. So if you're gonna talk about ONE successor state (as opposed to many), why single out Germany?

When we talk about Ottoman Empire we think of Turkey, even though it was composed of many ethnicities, Austro-Hungarian we think Austria, British we think of England etc. For the same reason the last Holy Roman Empire brings to mind Germany.

 

[Yetos]

eu and euro were created to compete with us and the usd. While caught up in this “battle”, eu and us disregarded the rise of china. I think eu have bigger problems. One is the demographic regress, another one are the islamic emigrants who don’t integrate and slowly but surely are taking over,and the last one is chinese expansionism.
while being too busy with what and who to cut loose from the union, china is colonizing africa, is “occupying” resources around the world and lately they removed the “one child per family policy”. It seems like the chinese want to take over the world and if you didn’t like the us empire, you have another thing coming, and it won’t be pretty. Eu was eager to overtake us and both helped china become what it has become today, a huge threat.
i’m appalled by the last events in sweden, the beating to death of the dutch linesman by middle eastern adolescent players, antigay violence (by middle easterns) in france etc. The so called democracy, political correctness etc, is burying europe and soon with it us. We’re bending over backwards to make the minorities happy, while nobody gives a sh.. About the majority. With their demographic boom and their goal on spreading islam worldwide, not too far in the future we’ll have eurasia.
are the europeans oblivious to what is going on around them?

what are you talking about?

Where the hell you heart from the creators of union for coal and steel that they wanted to compete the usd?

 

[Illyricum Sacrum]

what are you talking about?

Where the hell you heart from the creators of union for coal and steel that they wanted to compete the usd?

Since you know what you're talking about you tell me the reason behind Euro! I guess there are financial analysts who think same way: The single European currency has shown these leaders that monetary regionalization and even globalization is possible and, inadvertently, the euro has touched off a race to win over geo-monetary space outside the dollar’s sphere of influence. In this race, the Europeans have started with a certain advantage from the outset but if they do not join forces, they might soon be left behind.Analysis:Introduction
Since its creation and consolidation as an international currency, the euro has triggered extensive academic debate on its potential for unseating the US dollar as the anchor of the world economy

 

[intorg]

I dont think it will be long lasting. Separation of powers of EU would be only good for the China, Japan and India. On the other hand EU, instead of dissolution should find the ways for expansion.