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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody1 View Post
    ...and also this stuff about extraterrestrials; a true eye opener!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IABsBprJJPo
    Got a chuckle out of this... I must say I've been going Rainman on pre-historic megalithic structures and some are so difficult to explain away-- the easy option is to punt and pin it on alien technology. Sacsayhuaman in Peru has me especially stumped. But I'm not giving up on the genius of mankind yet!

    And the altered head shape thing he mentioned in that clip is also really weird. It's found throughout the globe and through many civilizations... maybe moulding craniums gave some of the ancients a leg up in the intelligence department?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nordicquarreler View Post
    ...Also Joe Rogan's podcast has some interesting guests (Graham Hancock is refreshingly out-of-the-box)...
    Not that I agree with Graham. I completely diverge from his fundamental beliefs. Not sure if I should admire his bravery (by using the planet's most powerful hallucinigens to chase what he sees as the truth) or if I should condemn his foolish methods and conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordicquarreler View Post
    Mel Gibson has had a few mentions on this thread... but if we're talking about historical movies I'm surprised nobody picked Braveheart.
    Well, setting aside the fact it was not historically accurate, I like Braveheart as a movie, nordicquarreler. Never yet been able to watch the end however..

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    She Wolves Of England..presented by Helen Castor.
    The parts seem to have been listed wrong in original upload so just watch as now listed.

    Part One:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdbN7k6Qnc0

    Part Two:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK3mCeYbowI

    Part Three:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Tpbkt2FgU

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    Thanks, loved that. Interesting, good quality, full of knowledge.
    Yes, loads of little bits of information not usually covered in other items. Glad you enjoyed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hope View Post
    Well, setting aside the fact it was not historically accurate, I like Braveheart as a movie, nordicquarreler. Never yet been able to watch the end however..
    Wait a minute, Braveheart wasn't historically accurate? How so?

    Kidding. That's why I put "on a serious note" in that comment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordicquarreler View Post
    Wait a minute, Braveheart wasn't historically accurate? How so?

    Kidding. That's why I put "on a serious note" in that comment...
    I thought that might have been the case...just as I hit "post reply", lol.
    It`s a good movie regardless...even if I don`t make it to the end.

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    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    Ascent of Money by Niall Ferguson.
    Absolutely well written and narrated by this great historian of finance. 5 stars.


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    The Creature from Jekyll Island:

    Wonder if 'Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde' comes from.



    The inception of the Federal Reserve System

    This video explains the normal banks expand the money supply by 1:10.

    The big banks (Wall Street) that own the Federal Reserve System follow the Net Capital Rule (which could change - it was the change to 1:33 ratio by chairman of Goldman Sachs at the time Henry Paulson later US Treasury secretary) that brought the 2007 recession) with expansion ratio is 1:17 to get into exploration for resources for oil, minerals mergers and acquisitions. i.e. hedge funds.

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    I find this funny:

    How Socialism, Communism and Fascism are all the Same


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    Fractional reserve banking:


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    pearl harbor ;)

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    The Colosseum-Engineering and Gladitorial Combat-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bZuVdfP7I

    Perhaps a better one on the actual engineering, National Geographic-Ancient Megastructures-The Colosseum
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAnVA4_xhTk

    Basically Hollywood gets it wrong, at least as far as the combats are concerned. In The Gladiator they seem to have gotten the engineering of the sub-regions right, however.

    The Seven Wonders of Ancient Rome: The Pantheon, The Forum, The Circus Maximus, The Colosseum, The Aqueducts, The Roads, The Baths of Caracalla.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8wjVAUXvDQ

    Roman Engineering-Aqueducts (I really liked this one)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN1v5FYkTLQ

    The Roman Baths-NOVA reconstructs one, but doesn't do as good a job as the Romans did!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKBc3_fKHtA

    That video, while good for the technical aspects, doesn't do the Roman baths justice.
    This is a virtual tour of the Baths of Caracalla:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejxVEbOba2g

    This is a particularly good virtual tour of a Roman house:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDiqKUzSeZM

    A virtual tour of an Insula, an apartment building for lower class people:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIWQvdZdaAA

    A Virtual Tour of the City of Rome from the Khan Academy, which does excellent work.
    The professor does a particularly good job, imo, of describing why the Pantheon is such an awe inspiring building...my favorite building in the world, and one I go to every time I am in Rome.


    These may have been posted elsewhere but I couldn't find them through a search:


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    War Commentaries of Caesar narrated by Rex Warner.
    There are quite a few of these on YouTube. Here are two I particularly liked.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snft290-FRc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=danUuPTGJes

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    Troy is my favorite movie. I have seen movies like that.

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    I think Ben Hur from 1959 has on of the best musical scores from Hungarian composer, Miklós Rózsa.

    Troy (2004) was a great film.

    Braveheart is awesome, and I think Mel Gibson did a good job with Passion of the Christs.

    I also like The 300 Spartans (1962)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I think Ben Hur from 1959 has on of the best musical scores from Hungarian composer, Miklós Rózsa.
    I can't stand pre 70's acting. It took me 3 tries to watch it through.

    Troy (2004) was a great film.
    I agree.

    Braveheart is awesome, and I think Mel Gibson did a good job with Passion of the Christs.
    I don't want to watch people dying and being tortured for 2 hours. Very depressing.

    I also like The 300 Spartans (1962)
    I hate this doom and gloom dark format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hope View Post
    I thought this look at Roman life, presented by the wonderful Professor Mary Beard, was certainly worth the watch.

    Parts 1. 2.3.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWDkMMUzvqQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JFw8M4PBUI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UvG0LDeYBA
    Thank you Hope on the documentaries, these links should totally come in handy when reaserching my 23andme Italian component :).

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    You guys are aware "Troy" didn't have much to do with history or even the poem, right? For one thing, Achilles and Patroclus were probably lovers. :) For another I highly doubt there was an actual Helen, although it makes for a nice romantic story. I also found the acting atrocious, especially Brad Pitt. Don't get me wrong, it was fun to watch: great scenery, stirring rhetoric and battle scenes, and all those muscular male bodies on display. :)

    Of course, I've always found it sad that Troy lost. From my first reading of the Iliad I never liked the Greek kings, or Achilles constantly prattling about his honor", and full of bloodlust. The big conflict between him and Agamemnon was over who got to keep some captive slave girl, and not out of love, but out of pride. Agamemnon got just what he deserved, especially considering what he did to his daughter. As for Helen, her morals were wanting, and Paris was a jerk who was thinking with the wrong body part. "Noble Hector" was always my guy, and in the movie too.

    @Jovialis,
    I like all of them too.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zGxi-7xDDw

    I absolutely love the sound track of Ben Hur, especially these two songs. You can tell Miklós Rózsa was an inspiration for future composers like Basil Poledouris.

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    Expected from an Italian to support Troy, no wonder about this at all. But that was the period of the great expansion of the Achaeans (there are many names given to the Greeks throughout the Iliad) and war works this way.

    As for the character of the Greek kings, those who did wrong things were punished by the gods. Old Homer also praises many of the Trojans and among all the old king Priam and his son Hector, the protector of the realm who valiantly died in battle with the almighty Achilles, who although could chose an aeternal life, he, instead, made another decision.

    Of course, all the aforementioned are ways of the ancient people to talk about their ethics and their way of perceiving things and in that sense they should be seen as allegoric.

    One important question lies here: were the Trojans different from the Greeks? In fact, were the Trojans Greeks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Of course, I've always found it sad that Troy lost. From my first reading of the Iliad I never liked the Greek kings, or Achilles constantly prattling about his honor", and full of bloodlust. The big conflict between him and Agamemnon was over who got to keep some captive slave girl, and not out of love, but out of pride. Agamemnon got just what he deserved, especially considering what he did to his daughter. As for Helen, her morals were wanting, and Paris was a jerk who was thinking with the wrong body part. "Noble Hector" was always my guy, and in the movie too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Of course, I've always found it sad that Troy lost. From my first reading of the Iliad I never liked the Greek kings, or Achilles constantly prattling about his honor", and full of bloodlust. The big conflict between him and Agamemnon was over who got to keep some captive slave girl, and not out of love, but out of pride. Agamemnon got just what he deserved, especially considering what he did to his daughter. As for Helen, her morals were wanting, and Paris was a jerk who was thinking with the wrong body part. "Noble Hector" was always my guy, and in the movie too.
    come on Angela,

    perhaps you should find more characters,

    Like Odysseus the 'old wise' Greek,
    I wonder among Hektor Priamos and Odysseas a modern third age man, which he prefer?

    and what about the oposite the young foollish Greek Patroklos,
    All my youth especially at ages 14-25 was in my thought,
    If his sacrifice was worthy, and if I as young should follow his example,
    should a young boy sacrificized for the glory of family?
    what about Aias (Ajax)

    As for Paris, it is the most disqusting character in the poem.

    and about female characters?
    except Ekabe (Εκαβη)
    you have the 'odd' sister Kassandra
    what about the divine mother of Achilleas, who care about her son's as a mother, bringing him the best.

    and the story continues
    with Odysseas and Odysseas 2 (lost)
    with Orestes and Klytaimnestra etc etc
    even Ifigeneia the sacrifized daughter in Crimaia (Tauris)


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