Eupedia Forums
Site NavigationEupedia Top > Eupedia Forum & Japan Forum
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: J2 Population Size Estimates

  1. #1
    Baron Achievements:
    Tagger Second ClassThree FriendsVeteran10000 Experience Points
    RHAS's Avatar
    Join Date
    25-04-13
    Posts
    268
    Points
    15,555
    Level
    37
    Points: 15,555, Level: 37
    Level completed: 89%, Points required for next Level: 95
    Overall activity: 0%


    Country: Netherlands



    J2 Population Size Estimates

    The purpose of this document is a global understanding of the J2 Y-DNA population size. Haplogroup frequencies taken from Eupedia.com. (Frequencies at Eupedia are compiled from different sources, reliability and sample size varies.) Population data taken from wikipedia.com. (Mostly 2012 data, when not available data from older dates is used.) Calculations were made assuming a 50/50 male-female ratio in each country.

    J2-M172 Y-DNA European Population Estimate. (36 Countries)

    Albania
    Total Population: 3.002.859
    Males: 1.501.430
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 19,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 292.779

    Austria
    Total Population: 8.219.743
    Males: 4.109.871
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 12%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 493.185

    Belarus
    Total Population: 9.643.566
    Males: 4.821.783
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 1,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 72.327

    Belgium
    Total Population: 10.438.353
    Males: 5.219.177
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 4%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 208.767

    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Total Population: 3.879.296
    Males: 1.939.648
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 116.379

    Bulgaria
    Total Population: 7.037.935
    Males: 3.518.968
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 15,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 545.440

    Croatia
    Total Population: 4.480.043
    Males: 2.240.022
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 78.401

    Czech Republic
    Total Population: 10.177.300
    Males: 5.088.650
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 305.319

    Cyprus
    Total Population: 1.099.341
    Males: 549.671
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 37%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 203.378

    Denmark
    Total Population: 5.543.453
    Males: 2.771.727
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 2,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 69.293

    England
    Total Population: 51.000.000 (2008)
    Males: 25.500.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 892.500

    Estonia
    Total Population: 1.274.709
    Males: 637.355
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 1%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 6374

    France
    Total Population: 62.814.233
    Males: 31.407.117
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 7%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 2.198.498

    Germany
    Total Population: 81.305.856
    Males: 40.652.928
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 4,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.829.382

    Greece
    Total Population: 10.767.827
    Males: 5.383.914
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 23%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.238.300

    Hungary
    Total Population: 9.958.453
    Males: 4.979.227
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 7%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 348.546

    Italy
    Total Population: 61.261.254
    Males: 30.630.627
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 18%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 5.513.513

    Ireland
    Total Population: 6.399.152
    Males: 3.199.576
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 1%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 31.996

    Latvia
    Total Population: 2.191.580
    Males: 1.095.790
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 0,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 5479

    Macedonia (FYROM)
    Total Population: 2.082.370
    Males: 1.041.185
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 12%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 124.942

    Netherlands
    Total Population: 16.730.632
    Males: 8.365.316
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 501.919

    Norway
    Total Population: 5.033.675
    Males: 2.516.838
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 1%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 25.168

    Poland
    Total Population: 38.415.284
    Males: 19.207.642
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 2,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 480.192

    Portugal
    Total Population: 10.781.459
    Males: 5.390.730
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 9,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 512.119

    Romania
    Total Population: 21.848.504
    Males: 10.924.252
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 13%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.420.153

    Russia
    Total Population: 142.517.670
    Males: 71.258.835
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 2.137.766

    Scotland
    Total Population: 5.295.000
    Males: 2.647.500
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 2%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 52.950

    Serbia
    Total Population: 7.276.604
    Males: 3.638.302
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 236.490

    Slovakia
    Total Population: 5.445.324
    Males: 2.722.662
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 4%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 108.906

    Slovenia
    Total Population: 2.055.496
    Males: 1.027.748
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 30.832

    Spain
    Total Population: 47.265.321
    Males: 23.632.661
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.417.960

    Sweden
    Total Population: 9.540.065
    Males: 4.770.033
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 143.101

    Switzerland
    Total Population: 8.000.000
    Males: 4.000.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 240.000

    Turkey/Anatolia
    Total Population: 74.724.269
    Males: 37.362.135
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 24%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 8.966.912

    Ukraine
    Total Population: 44.854.065
    Males: 22.427.033
    Haplogroup J2 Frequency: 6,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.457.757

    Wales
    Total Population: 3.063.500
    Males: 1.531.750
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 1%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 15.318

    Total European Estimate: 32.322.341 (32,3 Million)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Caucasus Population Estimate. (5 Countries)

    Armenia
    Total Population: 3.262.200
    Males: 1.631.100
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 22%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 358.842

    Azerbaijan
    Total Population: 9.165.000
    Males: 4.582.500
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 30,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.397.663

    Chechnya
    Total Population: 1.268.989
    Males: 634.495
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 56,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 358.490

    Georgia
    Total Population: 4.469.200
    Males: 2.234.600
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 27%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 603.342

    Ingushetia
    Total Population: 412.529
    Males: 206.265
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 88%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 181.513

    Total Caucasian Estimate: 2.899.850 (2,9 Million)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Middle East Population Estimate. (5 Countries)

    Iran
    Total Population: 75.149.669
    Males: 37.574.835
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 12%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 4.508.980

    Iraq
    Total Population: 31.129.225
    Males: 15.564.613
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 19,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 3.035.099

    Jordan
    Total Population: 6.508.271
    Males: 3.254.136
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 13%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 423.038

    Lebanon
    Total Population: 4.224.000
    Males: 2.112.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 26%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 549.120

    Syria
    Total Population: 22.530.746
    Males: 11.265.373
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 17%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.915.113

    Total Middle Eastern Estimate: 10.431.350 (10,4 Million)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA North Africa Population Estimate. (3 Countries)

    Egypt
    Total Population: 82.000.000
    Males: 41.000.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 11%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 4.510.000

    Libya
    Total Population: 5.670.688
    Males: 2.835.344
    No DNA data found.
    Total J2 Y-DNA = not available.

    Morocco
    Total Population: 32.644.370
    Males: 16.322.185
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 489.666

    Tunesia
    Total Population: 10.732.900
    Males: 5.366.450
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 4%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 214.658

    Total North African Estimate: 5.214.324 (5,2 Million)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Other Populations Estimate. (3 Groups)

    Ashkenazi
    Total Population: 11.200.000
    Males: 5.600.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 19%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.064.000

    Sephardim
    Total Population: 2.000.000
    Males: 1.000.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 25%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 250.000

    Vlach/Aromun
    Total Population: 500.000
    Males: 250.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 24,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 61.250

    Total Other Population Estimate: 1.375.250 (1,4 Million)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Countries Of All Regions + Other Groups Frequency Estimate Top 25. (Top 25 of all countries & groups included in this research)

    1. Ingushetia (88%)
    2. Chechnya (56,5%)
    3. Cyprus (37%)
    4. Azerbaijan (30,5%)
    5. Georgia (27%)
    6. Lebanon (26%)
    7. Sephardi (25%)
    8. Vlachs/Aromuns (24,5%)
    9. Turkey (24%)
    10. Greece (23%)
    11. Armenia (22%)
    12. Albania & Iraq (19,5%)
    13. Ashkenazi (19%)
    14. Italy (18%)
    15. Syria (17%)
    16. Bulgaria (15,5%)
    17. Romania & Jordan (13%)
    18. Macedonia (FYROM), Austria, Iran (12%)
    19. Egypt (11%)
    20. Portugal (9,5%)
    22. Spain (8%)
    23. France & Hungary (7%)
    24. Serbia & Ukraine (6,5%)
    25. Netherlands, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Czech Republic, Switserland (6%)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA European Countries Population Estimate Top 25.
    (Top 25 of all European countries included in this research)


    1. Turkey/Anatolia (8.966.912)
    2. Italy (5.513.513)
    3. France (2.198.498)
    4. Russia (2.137.766)
    5. Germany (1.829.382)
    6. Ukraine (1.457.757)
    7. Romania (1.420.153)
    8. Spain (1.417.960)
    9. Greece (1.238.300)
    10. England (892.500)
    11. Bulgaria (545.440)
    12. Portugal (512.119)
    13. Netherlands (501.919)
    14. Austria (493.185)
    15. Poland (480.192)
    16. Hungary (348.546)
    17. Czech Republic (305.319)
    18. Albania (292.779)
    19. Switserland (240.000)
    20. Serbia (236.490)
    21. Cyprus (203.378)
    22. Sweden (143.101)
    23. Macedonia (FYROM) (124.942)
    24. Bosnia-Herzegovina (116.379)
    25. Slovakia (108.906)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Countries Of All Regions Population Estimate Top 25.
    (Top 25 of all countries included in this research)


    1. Turkey/Anatolia (8.966.912)
    2. Italy (5.513.513)
    3. Egypt (4.510.000)
    4. Iran (4.508.980)
    5. Iraq (3.035.099)
    6. France (2.198.498)
    7. Russia (2.137.766)
    8. Syria (1.915.113)
    9. Germany (1.829.382)
    10. Ukraine (1.457.757)
    11. Romania (1.420.153)
    12. Spain (1.417.960)
    13. Azerbaijan (1.397.663)
    14. Greece (1.238.300)
    15. England (892.500)
    16. Georgia (603.342)
    17. Lebanon (549.120)
    18. Bulgaria (545.440)
    19. Portugal (512.119)
    20. Netherlands (501.919)
    21. Austria (493.185)
    22. Morocco (489.666)
    23. Poland (480.192)
    24. Jordan (423.038)
    25. Armenia (358.842)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Regional Population Size Estimate. (of regions included in this research)

    1. Europe, 32,3 Million (32.322.341). -Turkey/Anatolia, 23,4 Million (23.355.429)
    2. Middle East, 10,4 Million (10.431.350). +Turkey/Anatolia, 19,4 Million (19.398.262)
    3. North Africa, 5,2 Million (5.214.324)
    4. Caucasus, 2,9 Million (2.899.850)
    5. Other, 1,4 Million (1.375.250) (Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Vlach/Aromun)

    Total J2 Y-DNA in all regions = 52,2 Million (52.243.115)
    Last edited by RHAS; 26-08-13 at 11:55. Reason: format end up all wrong

  2. #2
    Baron Achievements:
    Tagger Second ClassThree FriendsVeteran10000 Experience Points
    RHAS's Avatar
    Join Date
    25-04-13
    Posts
    268
    Points
    15,555
    Level
    37
    Points: 15,555, Level: 37
    Level completed: 89%, Points required for next Level: 95
    Overall activity: 0%


    Country: Netherlands



    Addendum.

    "Romans surely helped spread haplogroup J2 across its borders, judging from the distribution of J2 within Europe (frequency over 5%) wich bears an uncanny resemblance to the borders of the Roman Empire."
    Eupedia.com 2013

    "The propagation of J2b and E V-13 correspond roughly to the ancient Greek and Roman spheres of influence."
    Eupedia.com 2013

    "The ancient Greeks and Phoenicians were the main driving forces behind the spread of J2 around the western and southern Mediterranian"
    Eupedia.com 2013

    "Di Giacomo stressed the role of post-Neolithic migratory phenomenon, specifically that of the Ancient Greeks, as also being important in the dispersal of haplogroup J-M172."
    Wikipedia.org - Haplogroup J2 M172 2013

    "J-M172, which occurs as frequently as J-M267 in some Middle Eastern populations, is the more prevalent in Europe."
    Origin Diffusion and Differentation Y-Chromosome Haplogroups E and J

    J2-M172 Y-DNA European Countries Population Estimate Top 25 + Civilisations.
    (Top 25 of all countries included in this research & major civilisations/tribes they were part of.)


    1. Turkey/Anatolia (8.966.912) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    2. Italy (5.513.513) - (Ancient Greece*, Etruscan, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Holy Roman Empire)
    3. France (2.198.498) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    4. Russia (2.137.766) - (Ancient Greece*, Sarmatia, Scythia, Russian Empire)
    5. Germany (1.829.382) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    6. Ukraine (1.457.757) - (Ancient Greece*, Sarmatia, Scythia)
    7. Romania (1.420.153) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    8. Spain (1.417.960) - (Ancient Greece*, Phoenician, Roman Empire, Gothic Kingdom, Moors, Spanish Empire)
    9. Greece (1.238.300) - (Ancient Greece*, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman)
    10. England (892.500) - (Roman Empire, British Empire)
    11. Bulgaria (545.440) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    12. Portugal (512.119) - (Ancient Greece*, Phoenician, Roman Empire)
    13. Netherlands (501.919) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    14. Austria (493.185) - (Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Austria- Hungarian Empire)
    15. Poland (480.192) - (Sarmatia, Polish Kingdom, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Vlach & German Settlers)
    16. Hungary (348.546) - (Roman Empire, Kingdom of Hungary, Austria- Hungarian Empire)
    17. Czech Republic (305.319) - (Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    18. Albania (292.779) - (Ancient Greece*, Illyria, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    19. Switserland (240.000) - (Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    20. Serbia (236.490) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire, Austria- Hungarian Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    21. Cyprus (203.378) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    22. Sweden (143.101) - (Germanic, Nordic, Viking, Kingdom of Sweden, Swedish Empire)
    23. Macedonia (FYROM) (124.942) - (Ancient Greece*, Macedon, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    24. Bosnia-Herzegovina (116.379) - (Illyria, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    25. Slovakia (108.906) - (Scytho-Thracian, Celts, Roman Empire, Kingdom of Hungary)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Countries Of All Regions Population Estimate Top 25 + Civilisations.
    (Top 25 of all countries included in this research & major civilisations/tribes they were part of.)


    1. Turkey/Anatolia (8.966.912) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    2. Italy (5.513.513) - (Ancient Greece*, Etruscan, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Holy Roman Empire)
    3. Egypt (4.510.000) - (Ancient Egypt, Greek Ptolemaic Kingdom*, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    4. Iran (4.508.980) - (Parthian Empire, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Greco-Bactrian Kingdom*, Persian Empire)
    5. Iraq (3.035.099) - (Mesopotamia, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Persian Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    6. France (2.198.498) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    7. Russia (2.137.766) - (Ancient Greece*, Sarmatia, Scythia, Russian Empire)
    8. Syria (1.915.113) - (Mesopotamia, Phoenician, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    9. Germany (1.829.382) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    10. Ukraine (1.457.757) - (Ancient Greece*, Sarmatia, Scythia)
    11. Romania (1.420.153) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    12. Spain (1.417.960) - (Ancient Greece*, Phoenician, Roman Empire, Gothic Kingdom, Moors, Spanish Empire)
    13. Azerbaijan (1.397.663) - (Scythia, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Persian Empire)
    14. Greece (1.238.300) - (Ancient Greece*, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman)
    15. England (892.500) - (Celtic, Roman Empire, British Empire)
    16. Georgia (603.342) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire)
    17. Lebanon (549.120) - (Phoenician, Persian Empire, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Ottoman)
    18. Bulgaria (545.440) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    19. Portugal (512.119) - (Ancient Greece*, Phoenician, Roman Empire)
    20. Netherlands (501.919) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    21. Austria (493.185) - (Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    22. Morocco (489.666) - (Phoenician, Roman Empire)
    23. Poland (480.192) - (Sarmatia, Polish Kingdom, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Vlach & German Settlers)
    24. Jordan (423.038) - (Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Persian Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    25. Armenia (358.842) - (Kingdom of Armenia, Roman Empire, Persian Empire. Ottoman Empire, Russian)
    Last edited by RHAS; 26-08-13 at 11:57.

  3. #3
    Baron Achievements:
    Tagger Second ClassThree FriendsVeteran10000 Experience Points
    RHAS's Avatar
    Join Date
    25-04-13
    Posts
    268
    Points
    15,555
    Level
    37
    Points: 15,555, Level: 37
    Level completed: 89%, Points required for next Level: 95
    Overall activity: 0%


    Country: Netherlands



    The Original 'Haplogroup J2 population Size Estimates' file can be downloaded here: https://www.facebook.com/download/64...Estimates.docx

  4. #4
    Regular Member Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    17-12-11
    Location
    Sofia
    Posts
    338
    Points
    5,918
    Level
    22
    Points: 5,918, Level: 22
    Level completed: 74%, Points required for next Level: 132
    Overall activity: 2.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    J-L70
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H2a2a1

    Ethnic group
    Bulgarian
    Country: Bulgaria



    Quote Originally Posted by RHAS View Post
    The Original 'Haplogroup J2 population Size Estimates' file can be downloaded here: https://www.facebook.com/download/64...Estimates.docx
    J2 in Bulgaria is not 15.5% at all, it is 10.5%

  5. #5
    Baron Achievements:
    Tagger Second ClassThree FriendsVeteran10000 Experience Points
    RHAS's Avatar
    Join Date
    25-04-13
    Posts
    268
    Points
    15,555
    Level
    37
    Points: 15,555, Level: 37
    Level completed: 89%, Points required for next Level: 95
    Overall activity: 0%


    Country: Netherlands



    At the time this document was created it was 15.5%, atleast according to eupedia. Currently its at 11% not 10.5%.

  6. #6
    Regular Member Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    17-12-11
    Location
    Sofia
    Posts
    338
    Points
    5,918
    Level
    22
    Points: 5,918, Level: 22
    Level completed: 74%, Points required for next Level: 132
    Overall activity: 2.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    J-L70
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H2a2a1

    Ethnic group
    Bulgarian
    Country: Bulgaria



    Quote Originally Posted by RHAS View Post
    At the time this document was created it was 15.5%, atleast according to eupedia. Currently its at 11% not 10.5%.
    Wrong, here is the truth http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6Bq0iUu8AQ...56779.g002.png

  7. #7
    Baron Achievements:
    Tagger Second ClassThree FriendsVeteran10000 Experience Points
    RHAS's Avatar
    Join Date
    25-04-13
    Posts
    268
    Points
    15,555
    Level
    37
    Points: 15,555, Level: 37
    Level completed: 89%, Points required for next Level: 95
    Overall activity: 0%


    Country: Netherlands



    1 members found this post helpful.
    This document was created using Eupedia data, and it clearly says so in the beginning of the document. Im not really sure what youre trying to disprove here. The real truth is that untill we discover the Y-DNA haplogroup of every single Bulgarian alive today nobody can make a definitive claim of "truth" regarding the countries DNA frequencies.

  8. #8
    Regular Member Achievements:
    1000 Experience PointsVeteran
    MarTyro's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-08-11
    Posts
    40
    Points
    4,965
    Level
    20
    Points: 4,965, Level: 20
    Level completed: 79%, Points required for next Level: 85
    Overall activity: 0%


    Country: Austria



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by RHAS View Post
    J2-M172 Y-DNA Regional Population Size Estimate. (of regions included in this research)

    1. Europe, 32,3 Million (32.322.341). -Turkey/Anatolia, 23,4 Million (23.355.429)
    2. Middle East, 10,4 Million (10.431.350). +Turkey/Anatolia, 19,4 Million (19.398.262)
    3. North Africa, 5,2 Million (5.214.324)
    4. Caucasus, 2,9 Million (2.899.850)
    5. Other, 1,4 Million (1.375.250) (Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Vlach/Aromun)

    Total J2 Y-DNA in all regions = 52,2 Million (52.243.115)
    Thank you for sharing this and the other background info!
    It would be interesting to have South and Central Asia J2 included (Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, etc.) since these countries have fairly high percentages and diversity. However for example in India with the ca. 1/6 of the World population, there are probably no studies comprehensive enough to get the correct Y-diversity percentages.

  9. #9
    Baron Achievements:
    Tagger Second ClassThree FriendsVeteran10000 Experience Points
    RHAS's Avatar
    Join Date
    25-04-13
    Posts
    268
    Points
    15,555
    Level
    37
    Points: 15,555, Level: 37
    Level completed: 89%, Points required for next Level: 95
    Overall activity: 0%


    Country: Netherlands



    Quote Originally Posted by RHAS View Post
    Addendum.

    "Romans surely helped spread haplogroup J2 across its borders, judging from the distribution of J2 within Europe (frequency over 5%) wich bears an uncanny resemblance to the borders of the Roman Empire."
    Eupedia.com 2013

    "The propagation of J2b and E V-13 correspond roughly to the ancient Greek and Roman spheres of influence."
    Eupedia.com 2013

    "The ancient Greeks and Phoenicians were the main driving forces behind the spread of J2 around the western and southern Mediterranian"
    Eupedia.com 2013

    "Di Giacomo stressed the role of post-Neolithic migratory phenomenon, specifically that of the Ancient Greeks, as also being important in the dispersal of haplogroup J-M172."
    Wikipedia.org - Haplogroup J2 M172 2013

    "J-M172, which occurs as frequently as J-M267 in some Middle Eastern populations, is the more prevalent in Europe."
    Origin Diffusion and Differentation Y-Chromosome Haplogroups E and J

    J2-M172 Y-DNA European Countries Population Estimate Top 25 + Civilisations.
    (Top 25 of all countries included in this research & major civilisations/tribes they were part of.)


    1. Turkey/Anatolia (8.966.912) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    2. Italy (5.513.513) - (Ancient Greece*, Etruscan, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Holy Roman Empire)
    3. France (2.198.498) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    4. Russia (2.137.766) - (Ancient Greece*, Sarmatia, Scythia, Russian Empire)
    5. Germany (1.829.382) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    6. Ukraine (1.457.757) - (Ancient Greece*, Sarmatia, Scythia)
    7. Romania (1.420.153) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    8. Spain (1.417.960) - (Ancient Greece*, Phoenician, Roman Empire, Gothic Kingdom, Moors, Spanish Empire)
    9. Greece (1.238.300) - (Ancient Greece*, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman)
    10. England (892.500) - (Roman Empire, British Empire)
    11. Bulgaria (545.440) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    12. Portugal (512.119) - (Ancient Greece*, Phoenician, Roman Empire)
    13. Netherlands (501.919) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    14. Austria (493.185) - (Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Austria- Hungarian Empire)
    15. Poland (480.192) - (Sarmatia, Polish Kingdom, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Vlach & German Settlers)
    16. Hungary (348.546) - (Roman Empire, Kingdom of Hungary, Austria- Hungarian Empire)
    17. Czech Republic (305.319) - (Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    18. Albania (292.779) - (Ancient Greece*, Illyria, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    19. Switserland (240.000) - (Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    20. Serbia (236.490) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire, Austria- Hungarian Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    21. Cyprus (203.378) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    22. Sweden (143.101) - (Germanic, Nordic, Viking, Kingdom of Sweden, Swedish Empire)
    23. Macedonia (FYROM) (124.942) - (Ancient Greece*, Macedon, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    24. Bosnia-Herzegovina (116.379) - (Illyria, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    25. Slovakia (108.906) - (Scytho-Thracian, Celts, Roman Empire, Kingdom of Hungary)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Countries Of All Regions Population Estimate Top 25 + Civilisations.
    (Top 25 of all countries included in this research & major civilisations/tribes they were part of.)


    1. Turkey/Anatolia (8.966.912) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    2. Italy (5.513.513) - (Ancient Greece*, Etruscan, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Holy Roman Empire)
    3. Egypt (4.510.000) - (Ancient Egypt, Greek Ptolemaic Kingdom*, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    4. Iran (4.508.980) - (Parthian Empire, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Greco-Bactrian Kingdom*, Persian Empire)
    5. Iraq (3.035.099) - (Mesopotamia, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Persian Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    6. France (2.198.498) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    7. Russia (2.137.766) - (Ancient Greece*, Sarmatia, Scythia, Russian Empire)
    8. Syria (1.915.113) - (Mesopotamia, Phoenician, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    9. Germany (1.829.382) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    10. Ukraine (1.457.757) - (Ancient Greece*, Sarmatia, Scythia)
    11. Romania (1.420.153) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    12. Spain (1.417.960) - (Ancient Greece*, Phoenician, Roman Empire, Gothic Kingdom, Moors, Spanish Empire)
    13. Azerbaijan (1.397.663) - (Scythia, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Persian Empire)
    14. Greece (1.238.300) - (Ancient Greece*, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman)
    15. England (892.500) - (Celtic, Roman Empire, British Empire)
    16. Georgia (603.342) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire)
    17. Lebanon (549.120) - (Phoenician, Persian Empire, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Ottoman)
    18. Bulgaria (545.440) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    19. Portugal (512.119) - (Ancient Greece*, Phoenician, Roman Empire)
    20. Netherlands (501.919) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    21. Austria (493.185) - (Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    22. Morocco (489.666) - (Phoenician, Roman Empire)
    23. Poland (480.192) - (Sarmatia, Polish Kingdom, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Vlach & German Settlers)
    24. Jordan (423.038) - (Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Persian Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    25. Armenia (358.842) - (Kingdom of Armenia, Roman Empire, Persian Empire. Ottoman Empire, Russian)


    Left: The geographic space over which Classical Greek and Latin served as a lingua franca in antiquity. Right: Y-DNA Haplogroup Frequency map of J2-M172.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •