Dorianfinder
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- Location
- Western Cape
- Ethnic group
- European
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R-FGC13617
- mtDNA haplogroup
- T2b1
Richard A. Rocca stated the following last year (see below). Note that with the Big Y results coming in this information is likely to change somewhat:
France and Britain
- We knew that L2 made up a larger percentage of U152 outside of Italy before, but now we know that L2 outside of Italy is primarily Z49 and Z367 in France and Britain. In general terms, this suggests that the U152-L2 in Britain is mostly of French (as in the geographical region) origin.
Switzerland, the Rhine and Italy
- There are still a lot of hidden lineages for L2 (xZ49, Z367) especially in Italy, Switzerland and the Rhine (so basically outside of France and Britain).
- Z36 forms a larger percentage of U152 frequency from western Switzerland to Tuscany than anywhere else and seems not to have been heavily involved with L2 in France or Britain.
- Within central Italy, L2 was curiously much lower than U152 (xL2) in the FTDNA samples, and now we know it is mostly attributed to Z36 and Z56.
- Within Tuscan Z36, almost all of it is Z54/Z143 which looks like a regional group as it is almost non-existent in FTDNA samples.
- We didn't know what to expect in Sardinia, but now we know U152 is heavily Z192 (and probably higher with its parent PF6658/Z193). It could be that this is due to an initial founder effect from coastal Tuscany as Z192 is also important there.
- In central Italy, Z56 sub lineages seem to be more frequent in Z144/Z145/Z146
The Low Countries
- Z367+Z34+ seems to have a stronger presence in the Low Countries than outside of it.
France and Britain
- We knew that L2 made up a larger percentage of U152 outside of Italy before, but now we know that L2 outside of Italy is primarily Z49 and Z367 in France and Britain. In general terms, this suggests that the U152-L2 in Britain is mostly of French (as in the geographical region) origin.
Switzerland, the Rhine and Italy
- There are still a lot of hidden lineages for L2 (xZ49, Z367) especially in Italy, Switzerland and the Rhine (so basically outside of France and Britain).
- Z36 forms a larger percentage of U152 frequency from western Switzerland to Tuscany than anywhere else and seems not to have been heavily involved with L2 in France or Britain.
- Within central Italy, L2 was curiously much lower than U152 (xL2) in the FTDNA samples, and now we know it is mostly attributed to Z36 and Z56.
- Within Tuscan Z36, almost all of it is Z54/Z143 which looks like a regional group as it is almost non-existent in FTDNA samples.
- We didn't know what to expect in Sardinia, but now we know U152 is heavily Z192 (and probably higher with its parent PF6658/Z193). It could be that this is due to an initial founder effect from coastal Tuscany as Z192 is also important there.
- In central Italy, Z56 sub lineages seem to be more frequent in Z144/Z145/Z146
The Low Countries
- Z367+Z34+ seems to have a stronger presence in the Low Countries than outside of it.