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Thread: New distribution map of Y-haplogroup E-M81

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    another guanche ancient
    that someone uploaded GUN012
    from tenerife dated to 621 ± 39
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-FT76699*/


    source:
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...60982217312575
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-FGC7391/

    https://yfull.com/mtree/H3ap/

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    from the albanian data base

    https://translate.googleusercontent....hENBmj5TfUlCyg
    last 2 pages of enteries

    small albanian e-m81 cluster ( in south kosovo north albania)



    p.s
    i sent an emaill to the administrator
    and he also wished to know the rout and time this small cluster arrived
    to albania
    but he told me that because those people came from poor villages
    they can't afford big y ( crazy prices )
    bummer ..... ( could be ottoman period, or roman auxiliry)

    https://i.imgur.com/6WnoBSe.png

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    Hello Maciamo,
    Your articles on the various HGs are very good but I wish for more detail in the references. In the article on E1b1b, section E-M81 you claim that some study of 101 Pasiegos included data on E-M81. Could you please share the reference to the literature? Thanks. Sergio

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outside View Post
    Berberid??? It's ancient semite canaanite haplogroup, there was nothing called "berber" in the entire history of the Maghreb but Libyans, Punics/Canaanites, Africans, Arabs, Maghrebis, North Africans. Stop using this racist french colonial slur.
    'Berberid'? by Frenchies? I don't know, but 'Berber' (Berbère) I know. It's a bit off topic, but I don't see any racism in this word in French, only an approximate and imprecise way to name populations considered as "autochtones" and not Arab" in origin, whatever the accuracy of these distinctions. But if racism has existed (and at some scale, it has), it was not in this term, for sure! Just a "bag" term for diverse pops of North-Africa. It is not safe to put too much emotion into words. It leads to mistakings and sterile oppositions.

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    Important paper on e-m81 structure
    in north africa near east and iberia
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5698413/

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    2 members found this post helpful.
    Two other papers (see academia.edu) here on M81 origin, two very little known hypotheses:

    1) The male lines of the Maghreb: Phoenicians, Carthage, Muslim conquest and Berbers by Wim Penninx


    2) "How Eurasia Was Born" HOW EURASIA WAS BORN -A Provisional Atlas of prehistoric Eurasia based on genetic data supporting the farming-language dispersal model- CSABA-BARNABÁS HORVÁTH by Csaba Barnabas Horvath
    Last edited by Yanis; 28-07-21 at 01:04.

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