R1b-Z194 is an interesting clade downstream of R1b-Z192 in the R1b-U152 haplogroup. So far three persons have tested positive in the Geno 2.0 project. (two from British Isles and one Italian). Moreover two persons in the 1000 Genome Project are positive for this marker (both Toscany, Italy). Francalacci found 75 R1b-Z192 in Sardina. Does anybody know if he tested Z194 too? Have anybody a theory of the time and origin of R1b-Z192 and R1b-Z-194?