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    Today my first results from 23andME

    As you folks know I'm a full blooded unmixed Yezidi Kurd born in Georgia (USSR at that time). Also my both parents and grandparents are full blooded unmixed (Yezidi) Kurds. And so their parents, etc. Yezidi Kurds are the least mixed Kurds due to our different native (Aryan) religion. We don't mix with the outsiders of our religion, called the Yezidism. Recently I wanted to know my DNA haplogroups, so I ordered a test from 23andME. Today they send me my first results. I want to share my first results with you. My mtDNA is HV1b2 and my Y-DNA is R1a*.
    Last edited by Goga; 14-10-13 at 13:44.

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    I don't know anything about mtDNA HV1b2. Can somebody please give me more information about mtDNA haplogroup: HV1b2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    I don't know anything about mtDNA HV1b2. Can somebody please give me more information about mtDNA haplogroup: HV1b2
    go to HV ftdna project and use map...your markers are only in the triangle of Poland, lithuanian and belarus
    có che un pòpoło no 'l defende pi ła só łéngua el xe prónto par èser s'ciavo

    when a people no longer dares to defend its language it is ripe for slavery.

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    You almost definitely have R1a1a1b2 Z93.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    go to HV ftdna project and use map...your markers are only in the triangle of Poland, lithuanian and belarus
    Thank you very much for your reply and your help! Very interesting. Is this marker Jewish, NATIVE Kurdish or came a few thousand years ago from NorthEast Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired View Post
    You almost definitely have R1a1a1b2 Z93.
    I don't know man. Kurds have MANY types of R1a. How can I see it? I've got the first results and not all results yet. I've got most of 'health overview' and only my haplogroups back. I'm yet at step 5 out of 6.
    I'll get all results within max 2 weeks!
    But they gave me also a list of R1a 'defining mutations' and also a list of HV1b2 'defining mutations'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    Thank you very much for your reply and your help! Very interesting. Is this marker Jewish, NATIVE Kurdish or came a few thousand years ago from NorthEast Europe?
    I do not know...write to Gail T she is very helpful. I think she runs HV
    cleared my mtDna marker up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    I do not know...write to Gail T she is very helpful. I think she runs HV
    cleared my mtDna marker up
    Hmmm, distribution of HV1b2 :

    http://www.familytreedna.com/public/...?section=mtmap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    As you folks know I'm a full blooded unmixed Yezidi Kurd born in Georgia (USSR at that time). Also my both parents and grandparents are full blooded unmixed (Yezidi) Kurds. And so their parents, etc. Yezidi Kurds are the least mixed Kurds due to our different native (Aryan) religion. We don't mix with the outsiders of our religion, called the Yezidism. Recently I wanted to know my DNA haplogroups, so I ordered a test from 23andME. Today they send me my first results. I want to share my first results with you. My mtDNA is HV1b2 and my Y-DNA is R1a.
    Congrats.

    Thats interesting according to a study on Yazidi Kurds in Georgia they were J2 and R2a* but the sample size was very small (since the number of Kurds in Georgia is generally small) and I assume they only tested one village(in Villages all people are related) and we all know endogamy among Yezidis is high. And this must have been fatal to the results. I never believed that these results were representative for Yezidis.

    Now lets see if you are z93 or z283. Z93 is likely but z283 wouldn't be a surprise either. You would be the 4 individual case of Z283.
    Last edited by Alan; 12-10-13 at 15:43.

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    That study was conducted by an Armenian. I don't trust Armenians, Turks, Arabs, Assyrians or Persians if they make a study on Kurds. According to them Kurds do not exist. How can I see what type of R1a I'm? This is what I've got:

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    My SRY SNP: rs11575897 !

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    According to Palisto my Y-DNA is R1a* , which is very rare and hard to find. It may be the ancestral to all R1a haplogroups in the world!

    http://kurdishdna.blogspot.nl/2013/1...l#comment-form

    Also, my mtDNA haplogroup HV1b2 that you can find in Eastern Europe seems to come from Kurdistan (West Asia), maybe through the Jews or brought by the Iranic peoples that settled in Europe!


    Here more about the theory of Ashkenazi-Levite Jews and their Iranian origin.

    http://kurdishdna.blogspot.nl/2012/0...an-origin.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Now lets see if you are z93 or z283. Z93 is likely but z283 wouldn't be a surprise either. You would be the 4 individual case of Z283.
    I'm even a more special and rare case. I’m R1a*! I (and my tribe) might be the living evidence that R1a in Europe is from Zagros (Kurdistan)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goga View Post
    I'm even a more special and rare case. I’m R1a*! I (and my tribe) might be the living evidence that R1a in Europe is from Zagros (Kurdistan)!
    If you indeed don't fit into z93 or z283 sub clades this might become interesting, because without a doubt Indo Europeans (at least the Satem group) started where z93 and z283 split.

    Between, the study on Georgians yezidi Kurds was indeed made by an Armenian of Assyrian origin and the results later added into the Nasidze study. I didn't knew that. It might also have been simply because of the low sample size token by relatives. Or because it was made with old techniques and allot of R1a was simply mistaken for other Haplogroups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    If you indeed don't fit into z93 or z283 sub clades this might become interesting, because without a doubt Indo Europeans (at least the Satem group) started where z93 and z283 split
    I don't know exactly what it means but according to Palisto I'm R1a* (L62+, L63+, SRY10831.2-, M17-). I gave him all of my RAW DNA data. http://kurdishdna.blogspot.nl/2013/1...l#comment-form

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    The best way to find out is to order a YDNA test on FTDNA. Start with YDNA-12 which now costs 49 USD, join R1a poject and test snips which its admins will advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardu View Post
    The best way to find out is to order a YDNA test on FTDNA. Start with YDNA-12 which now costs 49 USD, join R1a poject and test snips which its admins will advice.
    Thanks. I spent $178 (shipping included) for my DNA test. I'm not going to spent more money for DNA test in the near future. I just wanted to know my mtDNA & Y-DNA and I have all the info I wanted..

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    thank you very much for sharing.

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