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    ancient bavarians

    Reading through this paper

    http://www.academia.edu/1782536/Veri...etthamer_Feld_

    for the T ( ydna) found. I was wondering if any other graves from "southern Germany" in relation to this group was discovered. I am interested in also of any tribe which is associated with this area.

    I did find this corresponding articles as well

    http://dienekes.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/y-chromosomes-and-mtdna-from-late.html


    Results Table
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    E1b1a 8 0.0
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    G2a 12 0.0
    G2c 1 0.0
    H 2 0.0
    I1 26 3.9
    I2a (xI2a1) 15 0.0
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    Q 35 5.0
    R1a 7 0.0
    R1b 27 5.4
    T 59 85.1

    What I got form the new athey for equal priors for #1699
    có che un pòpoło no 'l defende pi ła só łéngua el xe prónto par èser s'ciavo

    when a people no longer dares to defend its language it is ripe for slavery.

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    I think the label of "ancient Bavarians" might be a bit too much;

    App. after all the tests it is the most poss. that the Corpses belonged to a Roman Military Unit + Family members;

    However, the pattern of family relationships revealed in the analyses also fits in with the third hypothesis – that the buried men were members of a Roman military unit who lived together with their families near the burial place. In addition to the finding of the Roman fibula, the observed preponderance of men and the diversity of the Y-haplotypes support this supposition.


    But it also reveals that the Corpses were native (since childhood) of this very region (Upper Bavaria) - South of the Danube;

    None of the eleven individuals spent his/her childhood in an area with a differing Sr signature. Only one individual showed slight evidence for mobility during early childhood.

    The time of the Corpses is the late Roman Empire [4th-5th cen AD] so the pop. of Prov. Raetia were already all Roman Citizens (Constitutio Antoniniana 212 AD) and therefor could very well be including local recruited Vindelici which would also correspond with the at least childhood nativity to the region of the Corpses;

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