Dianatomia
Regular Member
- Messages
- 404
- Reaction score
- 133
- Points
- 43
- Ethnic group
- Greek
Who are the Macedonian Slavs and which modern ethnic group are they most related to?
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
There is not Macedonian ethnicity. Macedonia is a geographic term. The slavs in Macedonia are Bulgarians. Greeks have nothing in common with slavs. Geneticaly macedonian slavs are largely slavic I2a+Bulgarian j2a
Greeks have NOTHING in common with Slavs.......? Are you forgetting the 10-20% I2a and R1a ( each).
The thread is about macedonian slavs. Slavs have nothing in common with ancient macedonians. History says that at 4th centuary a.d macedonian ethnicity ceased existing. They abandoned their language and become greeks. There was not macedonia until Tito invented it in 1945. So they are Bulgarians.
Exactly.....The thread is about macedonian slavs.
so why would you mention different Macedonians now?Slavs have nothing in common with ancient macedonians.
The was no Greece in 4th century. Abandoning one's language doesn't change ethnicity. Either they're extinct or assimilated into another people.History says that at 4th centuary a.d macedonian ethnicity ceased existing. They abandoned their language and become greeks.
If we're talking about FYR, yes, there was. Rulers were from the House of Mrnjavcevic, noblemen from the court of Helen of Anjou.There was not macedonia until Tito invented it in 1945.
They never considered themselves as Bulgarians, neither Bulgarians thought they were. There are even parts of Bulgaria, that don't consider themselves as bulgarians.So they are Bulgarians.
Maps are always misleading.
The extent of the spread of the Slavic tribes says little about the genetic impact on the modern counterparts of that region.
In the places they settled they could have been vastly outnumbered, retreated, or deported in some period of time. By the same analogy you could create a map of the spread of Turkish settlers in the Balkans and claim that the people in the Balkans are Turks, while in reality there were some scattered Turkish settlers in the Balkans which at some time may have been absorbed and deported.
ancient macedonians are macedonians, they disappeared from the planet once the Romans took control. Their are some still there but most where dispersed. The Romans targeted them from 202BC to 168BC ( when they where destroyed)
They suffered the same fate as the Carthaginians because they where always allied to Hannibal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Pydna
They never considered themselves as Bulgarians, neither Bulgarians thought they were. There are even parts of Bulgaria, that don't consider themselves as bulgarians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarisation
Exactly.....
so why would you mention different Macedonians now?
The was no Greece in 4th century. Abandoning one's language doesn't change ethnicity. Either they're extinct or assimilated into another people.
If we're talking about FYR, yes, there was. Rulers were from the House of Mrnjavcevic, noblemen from the court of Helen of Anjou.
They never considered themselves as Bulgarians, neither Bulgarians thought they were. There are even parts of Bulgaria, that don't consider themselves as bulgarians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarisation
I should have siad Ancient Macdonians became Hellens. You are right, there is difference between modern greek and hellen. Modern Greeks comprise of Hellens, Slavs,Albanians, Turks, Vlahs, Gypsies, Thracians and who knows what.
They adopted hellenistic education and culture and over time became culturally the same with Hellens. Records show that after 4 centuary a,d they no longer spoke Macedonian language. Greek historian noted that Macedonian and hellenistic languages were not of the same family. Todays Macedonian language is a dialect of bullgarian and there is the opposition party that promote bulgarian ethnicity in Macedonia. Macedonians score 85% of the time genetic similiarity with Bulgarian. So they really are Bulgarians who live in the geographic territory of Macedonia. There is also a greek Macedonia.
This thread has been viewed 22038 times.