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    Post New map of mtDNA haplogroup H5

    Haplogroup H5 is thought to have originated around 12,000 years ago in West Asia, probably around the Fertile Crescent. It was found in four individuals of from the Pre-Pottery Neolithic B site of Tell Halula in Syria, dating from circa 6800 BCE. It was also found in Neolithic Germany, Minoan Greece, Bronze Age Siberia (Tagar culture), as well as Iron Age Poland and Denmark. H5a has also been found among the modern Xiongnu and Mongolians.

    H5 seems to have a mostly Neolithic origin in Europe, although it is now rare in the Near/Middle East. H5a was probably also a minor Indo-European lineage linked to the diffusion of both R1a and R1b.

    Modern hotspots include the southern Alps (Piedmont, Lombardy, Trentino, Slovenia, Croatia), the Latium, Wales, Romania and Latvia.




    Note that I had less regional data to make this map. The distribution within France in particular is quite uncertain.
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    Is this another group crossing the black sea to modern Romania?
    Seems to be a few like this from your previous maps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    Is this another group crossing the black sea to modern Romania?
    Seems to be a few like this from your previous maps
    Are you thinking about K and T1 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Are you thinking about K and T1 ?
    to a degree
    T1, HV, X ad J

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    Finally something on H5. Thanks for this post Maciamo.

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    R1b1a2a1a (ht35)
    MtDNA haplogroup
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    Country: France



    Yeah, thanks for this map, it's usually pretty hard to find detailed info about H5.

    The map is pretty surprising though, as 23andme's H5 map shows a hotspot in Lebanon and Syria, while yours doesn't. I reckon there might be a branch from the original H5 population which migrated south instead of west... would you happen to have any info about this, please?

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    Maciamo - you might want to cross-check your data with the one included in Supplementary Table S8 of the Brotherton 2013 aDNA study:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...MC3978205/#SD2 (link to PDF supplement at the end of the main article).

    The good thing with that table is that mtDNA H is broken down into 14 different subclades, giving you the opportunity for lots of new maps should you get bored :). Unfortunately, they don't give the overall share of H, so you need to interfere this from other sources (my figures further down always relate to the H4 share in total H, not overall). Anyway, for each of the 37 populations included, they have given their source, some of which might be available online (didn't check on it yet).

    I have especially noted high percentages of H5 (but no H5a) for Georgia (23.3%) and Karachay-Balkaria (24%). Volga-Ural is 0%! Balkans, Czech Republic and Germany may need to be darkened (each 15-16% H5/H5a combined), Estonia appears to high (4% H5/H5a), same with Slovakia (10%). They have 10 different sub-regions for Iberia, results there are quite a mess, from 0% in parts of Cantabria (Potes/ Pasiegros) to 15% in Catalonia. France has at least two regions (additionally, one of their various Basques may be French Basques), with Normandy (2.7%) being far below the French average (10%). Western Isles (where was that exactly, again?) is also rather low (8%).

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    According to 23andme, my 2 sisters & I are H5. I recently submitted my new sample to FTDNA & should have my results in a few weeks. Looking forward to learning more.

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    Could you please please please make a map for H4 based on the data collated on the FTDNA H4 project where 30+ places has been gathered? Like H5 France is very difficult to determine from the literature.

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    Found in mongolians? Maybe that's why I look kinda mongoloid.

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    Hi, can anyone tell me what Y-DNA this would be associated with? Thanks

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