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    Which country will be next EU member?



    After Croatia, which country is closer to join to European Union?

    Turkey, Serbia, Macedonia, Albania, Moldova, Azerbaijan or Georgia?



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    Quote Originally Posted by intorg View Post
    After Croatia, which country is closer to join to European Union?

    Turkey, Serbia, Macedonia, Albania, Moldova, Azerbaijan or Georgia?



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    Serbia seems to be on its way to EU membership, which probably doesn't make the Croats very happy. Macedonia isn't going to get into the EU if Greece has anything to say about it. I think most European governments will look at the growing tide of islamization in Turkey and say "maybe some time in the future - very far in the future". And I suspect the Russian bear will growl if Moldova, Azerbaijan or Georgia make a serious effort to join the EU. But it looks like Moldova really wants to join the EU. So do the Georgians, but geography is against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen View Post
    Serbia seems to be on its way to EU membership, which probably doesn't make the Croats very happy. Macedonia isn't going to get into the EU if Greece has anything to say about it. I think most European governments will look at the growing tide of islamization in Turkey and say "maybe some time in the future - very far in the future". And I suspect the Russian bear will growl if Moldova, Azerbaijan or Georgia make a serious effort to join the EU. But it looks like Moldova really wants to join the EU. So do the Georgians, but geography is against them.
    Serbia can't join the EU without recognizing Kosovo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldritch View Post
    Serbia can't join the EU without recognizing Kosovo.
    I don't see why it is related, Serbia is old European country and it deserved to be part of the EU. However there are those in region and beyond who are trying to make it harder Serbia's path to EU. Therefore in Serbia there are groups who think that there is an alternative to the EU, they think that Serbia should be part of the Eurasian block, I hope that in Europe there will no be hurdles and ultimatums which would give the wings supporters of Eurasia, and that Serbia will become the part of EU for several years.

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    Albanian prime minister said: the minimal time for Albania to get to the EU is 10 years. It means 2023 at the earliest. Has a lot to do economicaly. Serbia could get there in 2020, even though I would have prefered they join Asian union. They will be condicioned to not obstract Kosovo in its EU journey. I doubt Turkey will ever make it. Problem with Turkey is its size, not islam. Has a lot of resistence from germanic countries.

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    I would also say Serbia is well on its way, even if it will annoy Slovenia and Croatia. I was there recently and they still have a lot of work to do. Great country though, amazing food :)

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    I hope Serbia stay out, better for them to wait that the federalism looses the brewing conflict inside EU.

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    Amin! Your words in God's ears. Serbia better stay out of EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by albanopolis View Post
    Amin! Your words in God's ears. Serbia better stay out of EU
    Yes, but for their own good, not against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albanopolis View Post
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    I doubt Turkey will ever make it. Problem with Turkey is its size, not islam. Has a lot of resistence from germanic countries.
    You may not remember the siege of Vienna but I'll bet many Austrians do.

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    Absolutely. For they own good. Just let them stay out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen View Post
    You may not remember the siege of Vienna but I'll bet many Austrians do.
    We remember the siege of Adolf too. But still we want to be with Germany. That is history. Nobody is mad what Ottomans did in 1500. But the size of Turkey scares a lot of people. They can affect a lot of things. They can affect the EU political ballance. That could be a reason if they don't make it. Personally I think Turkey has modernised a lot. Is the only European country with a sizable student body in US from Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idun View Post
    Yes, but for their own good, not against them.
    Absolutely. For they own good. Just let them stay out.

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    Sorry but turkey isn't a European country; it's located in Western Asia; Turks,Armenians, those people are not Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    Sorry but turkey isn't a European country; it's located in Western Asia; Turks,Armenians, those people are not Europeans.
    Thats right and some European countries are too different, Albania would be one. All this will not matter if we end the federal dream. North Europe could maybe work within a confederation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrick View Post
    I don't see why it is related, Serbia is old European country and it deserved to be part of the EU. However there are those in region and beyond who are trying to make it harder Serbia's path to EU. Therefore in Serbia there are groups who think that there is an alternative to the EU, they think that Serbia should be part of the Eurasian block, I hope that in Europe there will no be hurdles and ultimatums which would give the wings supporters of Eurasia, and that Serbia will become the part of EU for several years.
    Becoming a new member of the EU is not a merit (although I don't think being and old European country could be interpreted as a merit). EU is group of nation who have approx. the same interest. Europe's interest is peace, and without the reconcilation with the Kosovars, Serbs can't ensure the EU, that there will be peace. Hungary lost 2/3 of its territories in 1920, because we f*cked up our ethnic policies. There are still some guys who are whining about that, but history rolls on and you can't change it. It'd be better for you to forget about Kosovo. Joining the Eurasian block of Russia could be hard to materialize considering your geopolitical situation. You are surrounded by EU states, you don't have a coast any more. You don't have the freedom of movement. I understand the pschychology of the Serbs, 'cause we have nearly the same here, but one should be reasonable and pragmatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intorg View Post
    After Croatia, which country is closer to join to European Union?

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    None of those,but Montenegro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albanopolis View Post
    We remember the siege of Adolf too. But still we want to be with Germany. That is history. Nobody is mad what Ottomans did in 1500. But the size of Turkey scares a lot of people. They can affect a lot of things. They can affect the EU political ballance. That could be a reason if they don't make it. Personally I think Turkey has modernised a lot. Is the only European country with a sizable student body in US from Europe.
    The difference is that the Germans have fully embraced democracy, whereas Turkey now has an islamist government that seems to be gradually moving towards creating a theocracy with the support of a slim majority of the Turkish people. Although most of the support for that idea comes from the hinterlands on the Asian side, that seems to give them enough votes to win elections, and the military no longer has the power to interfere. If Turkey had modernized a few decades sooner, it might have gotten into the EU before, but I think that now the internal politics of Turkey is probably an issue in terms of EU membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen View Post
    The difference is that the Germans have fully embraced democracy, whereas Turkey now has an islamist government that seems to be gradually moving towards creating a theocracy with the support of a slim majority of the Turkish people. Although most of the support for that idea comes from the hinterlands on the Asian side, that seems to give them enough votes to win elections, and the military no longer has the power to interfere. If Turkey had modernized a few decades sooner, it might have gotten into the EU before, but I think that now the internal politics of Turkey is probably an issue in terms of EU membership.
    I agree with Albanopolis! The main reason why Turkey is not in the EU is its size. In a decade Turkey will have a bigger population than Germany. And the good old childless Europe is afraid... If they had been accepted to the EU twenty years ago, the AK Parti won't be in this position. They can't go West, they go East. By the way with Turkey EU could have a major role in the Middle East. Turkey has the connections and the knowledge, western EU has the money. And of course Turkey's EU membership is the last thing US or Russia want, 'cause with Turkey Europe could be a real actor in Weltpolitik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BakodiP View Post
    Becoming a new member of the EU is not a merit (although I don't think being and old European country could be interpreted as a merit). EU is group of nation who have approx. the same interest. Europe's interest is peace, and without the reconcilation with the Kosovars, Serbs can't ensure the EU, that there will be peace. Hungary lost 2/3 of its territories in 1920, because we f*cked up our ethnic policies. There are still some guys who are whining about that, but history rolls on and you can't change it. It'd be better for you to forget about Kosovo. Joining the Eurasian block of Russia could be hard to materialize considering your geopolitical situation. You are surrounded by EU states, you don't have a coast any more. You don't have the freedom of movement. I understand the pschychology of the Serbs, 'cause we have nearly the same here, but one should be reasonable and pragmatic.
    But situation is completely different. And you can see for example Cyprus. It is divided country but EU member. Solution has been postponed for a certain period.

    There are two sides in Serbia. For European and Eurasian union. And it does not depend so much on external things, but of support of population for one or the other option. If you follow surveys Serbian citizens favor European Union.

    Key is economic development. For example, Hungary and Serbia can have very good not only political but economical relations. Hungary and Serbia lie on a key corridor that connects the Northern and Central Europe with the Eastern Mediterranean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BakodiP View Post
    I agree with Albanopolis! The main reason why Turkey is not in the EU is its size. In a decade Turkey will have a bigger population than Germany. And the good old childless Europe is afraid... If they had been accepted to the EU twenty years ago, the AK Parti won't be in this position. They can't go West, they go East. By the way with Turkey EU could have a major role in the Middle East. Turkey has the connections and the knowledge, western EU has the money. And of course Turkey's EU membership is the last thing US or Russia want, 'cause with Turkey Europe could be a real actor in Weltpolitik.
    There are grounds to Turkey joining EU, if Turks want, whether as a member or a country with special ties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen View Post
    The difference is that the Germans have fully embraced democracy, whereas Turkey now has an islamist government that seems to be gradually moving towards creating a theocracy with the support of a slim majority of the Turkish people. Although most of the support for that idea comes from the hinterlands on the Asian side, that seems to give them enough votes to win elections, and the military no longer has the power to interfere. If Turkey had modernized a few decades sooner, it might have gotten into the EU before, but I think that now the internal politics of Turkey is probably an issue in terms of EU membership.
    I do not think that the current government of Turkey is the main reason,but the fact that lots of countries from EU have problems with un-employment. And receiving Turkey in EU will mean even worse problems,for those countries,at un-employment.
    Since average Turk would work cheaper than average EU member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BakodiP View Post
    I agree with Albanopolis! The main reason why Turkey is not in the EU is its size. In a decade Turkey will have a bigger population than Germany.
    Are you sure about that? From what I've always heard, the Turkish population is actually declining: http://www.statista.com/statistics/2...ate-in-turkey/

    Personally I always believed Europeans considered that "Europe" stopped at the Bosphorus. The barriers for a Turkish entry to the EU were more to do with social issues, religion, integration, Middle Eastern immigration and Greek opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greyd View Post
    Are you sure about that? From what I've always heard, the Turkish population is actually declining: http://www.statista.com/statistics/2...ate-in-turkey/

    Personally I always believed Europeans considered that "Europe" stopped at the Bosphorus. The barriers for a Turkish entry to the EU were more to do with social issues, religion, integration, Middle Eastern immigration and Greek opposition.
    Turkey is projected to reach 100 mil in a decade or two. That's a big country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greyd View Post
    Are you sure about that? From what I've always heard, the Turkish population is actually declining: http://www.statista.com/statistics/2...ate-in-turkey/

    Personally I always believed Europeans considered that "Europe" stopped at the Bosphorus. The barriers for a Turkish entry to the EU were more to do with social issues, religion, integration, Middle Eastern immigration and Greek opposition.
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