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i read on another form today,people saying that france has the same amount of Germanic dna as England.what do yall think of this??
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i read on another form today,people saying that france has the same amount of Germanic dna as England.what do yall think of this??
I do not think is a normal thing to compare England,which is a very small land,to France,which is more Germanic.
More normally you should compare Normandy with England,to see which is more Germanic,in which case,I am not that sure,that England is more Germanic than Normandy.
If you want to compare in a normal mode,compare how Germanic is Great Britain as a whole,to France.
This map is partly a good answer because for the most it is sensible, CONCERNING MALE DNA - but if it gives us some "food" the true "Germanics" (autosomals) percentages stay yet to be precised because some germanic colonizations were balanced concerning males-females, other were not - do compare hebrides islands or Iceland with Caithness or the Orcades, or Franks settlements with late Normans ones in France or Sicilia a.s.o...
Most England genetics,if you look at K36 results is Keltic-pre-Keltic population from Atlantic facade.
North Sea and West Atlantic and Iberian,which makes most of the English people genetics are from people in Atlantic facade,not associated with Germanics.
Germanics are associated with Central European admixture,Feno-Scandian etc.
The irony is that Norway viking males got so many Keltic women from Great Britain,that Norway got lots of Brittish DNA now.
I am not so sure that I1 clades can be associated for sure with Vikings and Anglo-Saxons,maybe some Celts also had these paternal lines,maybe some people that were living in Great Britain,before the Celts came,had also I1 and so on.
The 'base' genetic material is pretty similar overall, K36 is more sensitive but in pretty much all calculators we share the same major and minor components as other NW Europeans, but the amount of each varies between each group. You are thinking too simplistically, one or two components on there own do not really matter as such, but all of the components in their various amounts for each group.
By that logic all Germanics are also part of the Atlantic Facade to varying degrees, in fact most of western and northwestern Europe.
That is not true,even in Scandinavia,the percentage of Fenoscandian is very different,if you take a South Norwegians from the coast,he has 20% or so,but has a lot of North Sea and if you take a North Swede,he can have even over 50% Feno-Scandian.
Is quite clear from the German and Finnic languages,that Germanics formed near Finnic people.
And you can notice that even in Austria,people have FenoScandian admixture,which is a Germanic mark,in Europe.
Not to mention I did not saw and Brit without at least 8-10 % Iberian admixture,while this admixture is absent or at very low percentages,at most Scandinavians.
What admixture is for sure that it was brought in UK by Vikings, Anglo-Saxons and Normans is fenoscandian,which I saw is at max 10% or lower in Brits.
Sure,maybe is at much higher percentages on the coast of Scotland,where people mixed heavily with Vikings.
Another admixture which can be attributed for sure to Germanics in Great Britain is Central-East European,which could not be brought by Celts.
While Central European could have been brought by both Celtics and Germanics and very likely both were carriers of this admixture.
This shows that actually the Germanic ruling classes did not had too much impact on Great Britain genetics,neither on England genetics.
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