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    mtdna U2e1b

    Having recently had my DNA analyzed, it seems I'm in the U2e1b subclade and I'm having a hard time finding anything beyond what the study's adminitrator sent me which is the following. Should you have more info please share.

    Thanks for sharing the CR results, and I placed you in in a proposed new subclade U2e1b Group 2a. You can see the defining mutations for U2e1b at Phylotree:

    also copied your results in the last column below, relative to the rCRS. I also copied below results from 2 samples that have been submitted to GenBank, the anonymous research database. The grey columns show the significance of each mutation.

    U2e1b Group 2 is defined by the 3 mutations highlighted in blue, and there are 5 other people in this group with ancestry in Italy, Ireland, England and Germany. Group 2a is define by the mutations highlighted in orange and includes you and a person from Germany. I would almost consider you 1-step matches, as this person has 1 extra coding region mutation which you lack. But you also differ by extra insertions of an AC at marker 524 and an extra C at 5899, which makes you 4-step matches. The extra insertion at AC is very common and is probably a recent mutation. I would guess that you could share a common maternal ancestor with this person sometime within the last few thousand years.


    It is also likely that all of your HVR1 matches are also in Group 2a, as they share your mutation at 16260, but they would need to test the full genome to see if they also share the extra CR mutations at 6644 and 15052. It would be great if they would all share information on their maternal ancestry, as this could identify the geographic origins of Group 2a, but none of them currently show a name or country of origin, and two of them list men as their maternal ancestor.



    U2e1b is estimated to be about 12,000 years old and there are only 20 samples in this group, including:


    U2e1b1 has 10 samples and is found in eastern Europe. This is a young branch that might be associate with Slavic expansions in the last 2000 years.

    U2e1b Group 2 seems to be located in western and central Europe (Italy, UK, Ireland, Germany and France)

    U2e1b Group 3 has has 3 samples located in Poland, Austria and Germany

    There are also 2 unassigned U2e1b samples from India.

    U2 is a very rare and very interesting haplogroup. There was a U2 sample found in ancient remains dated to around 35,000 years ago at Kostenki, Russia. Around that time U2 appears to have spread both to Europe and to south Asia. Several suclades (U2a, U2b and U2c) are found most often in south Asia. U2e is found most often in Europe.

    U2e1 currently has 6 named daughter groups (U2e1a to U2e1f) and also 7 more unnamed U2e1* branches, and is found widely distributed throughout Europe and Russia. U2e1 has an age estimate of about 15000 years,and it might have arrived in Europe at a very early date. There are two U2e* test results from Jordan and India, and U2e1 has sister groups U2e2 and U2e3 that are mostly found in Europe but with some samples from Jordan, Arabia and India. This seems to suggest an origin of U2e in southwest Asia perhaps around 20,000 years ago.


    The fact that U2e1b is found both in Europe and India might indicate that it was also present in the expansion of speakers of Indo-European languages, although this is highly speculative.


    There is a discussion forum that recently had some discussion of U2 at the links below.




    Gasparre FTDNA 313221


    Italy Germany France


    EF661006 JQ705946


    1 1 1
    x 73 73 73 73
    U2ecd 152 152 152 152
    U2e'1'2 217 217 217 217
    x 263 263 263 263



    309+C


    315+C 315+C 315+C
    U2e1 340 340 340 340
    U2e 508 508 508 508



    524+AC
    x 750 750 750 750
    U2e1b 988 988 988 988
    x 1438 1438 1438 1438
    U''' 1811 1811 1811 1811
    x 2706 2706 2706 2706
    U2e1b*2 3229+A 3229+A 3229+A 3229+A
    U2e 3720 3720 3720 3720
    x 4769 4769 4769 4769
    U2e 5390 5390 5390 5390
    U2e 5426 5426 5426 5426
    U2e1b*2 5899+XC 5900C 5899+C 5899+CC
    U2e 6045 6045 6045 6045
    U2e 6152 6152 6152 6152
    x 7028 7028 7028 7028
    x 8860 8860 8860 8860
    U2e 10876 10876 10876 10876
    U 11467 11467 11467 11467
    x 11719 11719 11719 11719
    U 12308 12308 12308 12308
    U 12372 12372 12372 12372
    U2e 13020 13020 13020 13020
    U2e 13734 13734 13734 13734
    x 14766 14766 14766 14766
    x 15326 15326 15326 15326
    U2e1b*2 15661 15661 15661 15661
    U2e 15907 15907 15907 15907
    U2 16051 16051 16051 16051
    U2e1 16092! ! ! !
    U2e 16129C 16129C 16129 16129

    16182c



    16183c 16183c 16183c 16183c
    U2e 16189 16189 16189 16189
    U2e1b 16256 16256 16256 16256
    U2e 16362 16362 16362 16362







    3392 6644 6644


    6620 15052 15052


    9182 16260 16260


    13572 15301


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    Hello, I'm a fellow U2e1 too.

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    Hi!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribljanin.Macura View Post
    Hi!
    I am U2e1b1
    Hello, welcome to the haplogroup!

    Here is our flag.
    hapflag+U2e.jpg

    Here is our anthem.
    U2e...
    ...strong, and resilient...
    ...this is your dark time...
    ...but I have hope for you.

    In this mission...
    ...we must never become corrupt...
    ...swayed by non-scientific arguments.
    ...we must never lose hope...
    ...for we will always find a way...
    ...as long as the end goal is in mind...
    ...and never forget our purpose.
    -http://mtdnaflags.blogspot.ca/2014/06/this-was-anthem-i-made-in-december.html

    I never knew there are Serbian U2e's. I've known about Croatian and Bosnian U2es, but not Serbs. This is definitely a rarity. If you would like more information, it's in my blog. You can even become a Haplogroupist.

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    Wow we really are rare!

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    U2e1b

    Hello,
    I just got my National Geographic DNA Haplogroup results, I also tested with Family Tree DNA, what changed is 2 has been added. Subclad U2E1B2. Western Europe, mainly British Isles; (Ireland), Scandinavia. Any more information regarding my Haplogroup would be greatly appreciated.
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    U2e is found in from India to Ireland to Siberia. It peaks in Europe at 1-2%. U2e1b is a somewhat popular subclade of U2e, and I've only found examples in Europe(all over Europe, from Spain to Romania to Poland and so on).

    There are many examples of U2e in DNA from old bones. The oldest example of U2e1b is from Siberia and is about 4,000 years old. Right now that data if suggests U2e is mostly originally from Eastern Europe and expanded into Siberia over 5,000 years ago other regions of Europe in 5,000-4,000 years ago. So, your U2e1b line probably came originally is from "Mesolithic" and "Upper Paleolithic" Russia/Eastern Europe/North Asia.

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    amazing information, thank you FireHair.

    If it means anything, my mom was a redhead of 0negative blood. I have reddish brown hair and am also 0negative.

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    I'm also U2e, but not your subclade. Even with an FGS, it's still difficult to narrow down the migration events. What you're seeing in terms of Germany, France, UK and Italy is also what I see for my results.

    I had my FGS file analyzed by Ann Turner when it turned out that my closest matches were a sample from the US (by way of Ireland) and a Swiss German. I got into contact with both of them, but there was no evidence of common ancestry within genealogical time. All that she could come up with was a link around 2500 years ago somewhere in central Europe. That time period might tie it to the "Celtic" migrations into Italy, but it's very "iffy". Unfortunately mtDna isn't as helpful for genealogy purposes as yDna.

    Just for your information, phenotype snps aren't carried on your mtDna. It does have a lot of effect on something far more important, your health.


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    Hi!
    I am U2e1a and happy to meet you all. I was born in the North of Spain (<1% chances of belonging to this HG) so I will have to research about my genetic history :)

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