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Sorry, this is just ridiculous! I hope this is a joke! Why? Because J2 was born somewhere between South Caucasian Mountain range and the Zagros mountains. J2 NEVER invaded places like South Caucasus, Kurdistan, Northwestern parts of the Iranian Plateau. Paternal haplogroups J2 has always been native to this area.UPDATE:
13) The Caucaso-Perso-Gedrosian admixture might be a composite of the West Asian branch of macro-haplogroup K, comprising mostly the original autosomal genes of carriers of Y-haplogroups L and T. Over time, L and T appear to have been replaced by the paternal lineages of successive invaders, like J1 and J2 during the Neolithic and Chalcolithic, R1a and R1b during the Bronze and Iron Ages, and East Asian lineages (C, N, O, Q) during the Turkic and Mongolian invasions.
These admixtures bear an uncanny resemblance to those of the Dodecad Project, and one could wonder if that Iosif Lazaridis could indeed be the person hidden behind the pseudonym Dienekes Pontikos.
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10) Iberians have a small percentage of North African admixture, linked to the presence of Y-haplogroup E-M81 and mtDNA L. Iberians also have traces of East African and Southwest Asian admixture. All three admixtures could have come with the Moors during the Islamic period, although it is likely that there was already some North African admixture in Iberia (though probably in isolated populations) at least since the Neolithic period.
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On page 65 of the Supplementary information authors write :
"This analysis confirm that gene flow from Sub-Saharan or North African populations has occurred in the Spanish sample. Table S11.2: Estimates of African admixture in Spanish population. The Spanish population may harbor some African-related admixture representing a fourth wave of migration into Europe, but affecting Spain much more than the other groups"
Depending on the population used (Sub-Saharan Yoruba or North African Mozabites) to estimate African admixture in the Spanish sample, the authors got the following percentages and Time of African admixture :
Table S11.2 :
Yoruba : 1.5% ; Time of African admixture : 66.2 generations
Mozabite : 12.6% ; Time of African admixture : 73.7 generations
So most of African admixture In Iberia was probably there before the Moors.
18) Tuscans have practically the same admixtures as the Albanians and the Greeks, or even the Turks once their Northeast Asian admixture has been removed. This reinforces the theory of a Greco-Anatolian origin of the Etruscans.
Population | EEF | WHG | ANE |
Bergamo (Lombard, Northern Italy) | 0.715 | 0.177 | 0.108 |
Tuscan | 0.746 | 0.136 | 0.118 |
Bulgarian | 0.712 | 0.147 | 0.141 |
Basque Country | 0.713 | 0.125 | 0.163 |
Greek | 0.792 | 0.058 | 0.151 |
Croatian | 0.561 | 0.293 | 0.145 |
Sardinian | 0.817 | 0.175 | 0.008 |
Albanian | 0.781 | 0.092 | 0.127 |
Spanish | 0.809 | 0.068 | 0.123 |
Dienekes' posts on the old "Racial Myths Message Board" (2003 and earlier) originated from the University of California at Irvine, which just happens to be the school Lazaridis attended during that time. (The original version of that board displayed the IP addresses of the posters, so one could use WHOIS or a similar tool to find the host name.)
Coincidence? I think not.
What the bloody heck are you talking about Sile? I'm referring to T1a1a3, my downstream subclade, re-read my posts please. I said nothing of the origins of T*. I said I find it odd how the only T1a1a3's are me (Naples region), canary islander, southern Sardinian and a German fellow in geno 2.0; can you find some more on ftdna?
I'm E-M35.1 according to 23andme, unfortunately 23andme failed to branch me to a specific subclade. I'm planning to test with FTDNA for more specific results, but until then, which subclade of E-M35.1 is most frequent among Ashkenazi Jews?
You might get rather more informed opinions if you post your question on the ydna "E" pages.
You might also find this helpful:
http://www.jewishgen.org/DNA/genbygen.html
Or this:
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/jewishe3bproject/default.aspx?section=yresults
Obviously, many people only tested for very upstream clades.
Thanks.
Which test should I take with FTDNA in order to find my specific paternal subclade? 37 markers is enough?
P.S I must say that even the 37 markers test is very expensive.
Yes take a basic test and then based on ur matches purchase a snip. U should be E-M123 or E-V22 or E-V65 , but u could be everything, u will soon find out
I wanted to let everyone know I was out here. I am listed with FTDNA-T Haplogroup-T #41158. I share common ancestor with #E17292 Ubert also listed on the FTDNA Haplogroup-T research group. He was tested PF7443+. On Y-search I am the only Ubert.
I have traced the Ubert lineage back to 1700s Alsace. Glad to know there are others with this very rare subclade within this rare Haplogroup.
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