New thoughts on Indo-Europeans in the light of recent data

no you liar!



results of dna test!

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Yes, the dna test confirmed that Ruseva's are biological parents. Picture that I posted are of their family. Picture which you postat was with unrelated women who bought the child from Ruseva. How do you feel now about Indian albino hypothesis?





by the way this is another roma(indian) family whose boy was taken from them by police and then they returned him after dna test which proved he is their child and suffers the same albinism as european "white people" who are indian albinos too
We are still waiting for your proof that malfunctioning OCA2 gene of albinism type 2 is exactly same mutation as in white people. Without this proof your hypotheses is not a fact. Using your words:
as long as you have no counter arguments of validity such claims are of no value...
live up to your words.
 
undeniable proof albinos in africa suffer the same symptoms and helth issues as an average white european just another haplogroup!!! natural selection yes you are right nature selects weakness over health for sure...

 
Trutharian - why does it have to be a black or a white race ideology? Albinism is different from skin modulation. Skin modulation is directly related to natural selection. You are aware that modern chimpanzees have a large degree of skin color differentiation. A baby chimpanzee is born white/pale (with close capillaries to skin, which gives a pinkish rosy complexion), and their skin darkens as they age. Early hominids most likely had similar traits 3-1.6 mya. When the environment changed and grasslands expanded these early hominids lost their fur and developed more sweat glands for better heat dissipation. The melanin production in the skin adapted to a dry hotter environment by producing more melanin for UV protection. Babies were at the greatest risk, so natural selection changed the melanin production earlier to the point where babies were born with dark skin. It's not surprising that some environmental or vitamin deficiency effected skin modulation during the last 100M years. It's ridicules to think that hominids had been exclusively black or white and some dysfunctional gene turned us albino white or kept us black. We don't see this in any primates today. Why would you think that wouldn't be the case for modern humans? Chimpanzee's have remarkable skin modulation abilities that allows them to communicate and differentiate between social groups.
every creature is pale in infantile state this disproves nothing look at newborns in all kinds of living forms
only albinos keep their infantile traits life long

Yes, the dna test confirmed that Ruseva's are biological parents. Picture that I posted are of their family. Picture which you postat was with unrelated women who bought the child from Ruseva. How do you feel now about Indian albino hypothesis?
your ignorance astonishes me nope she is the biologicla mother !
and i can show you hundreds of other indian women with albino children which prove that europeans are indian albinos 100%

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they look exactly the same as rusevas children and it fits nicely into my claims that as indian albinos left india because of the sun an inbred they became the scythians of russian steppes and later called themselves celts and germans and slavs which are the same albino indian group which left india because of the sun!!!

here you go you ignorant ! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...child-of-Bulgarian-couple-DNA-tests-show.html

how about this "cold adapted" average white girl ?! oh sir you just lack arguments
 
undeniable proof albinos in africa suffer the same symptoms and helth issues as an average white european just another haplogroup!!!
Haplogroups have nothing to do with albinism or skin colour. It is all contained in autosomal part of DNA.
 
and i can show you hundreds of other indian women with albino children which prove that europeans are indian albinos 100%

they look exactly the same as rusevas children and it fits nicely into my claims that as indian albinos left india because of the sun an inbred they became the scythians of russian steppes and later called themselves celts and germans and slavs which are the same albino indian group which left india because of the sun!!!

here you go you ignorant ! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...child-of-Bulgarian-couple-DNA-tests-show.html

I don't like to poke holes into your flamboyant 'hypotheses', but how come that Native Americans, Koreans or Japanese are also so much lighter-skinned than, say Bantu peoples or Australian Aboriginals?
 
Haplogroups have nothing to do with albinism or skin colour. It is all contained in autosomal part of DNA.
you didnt read correctly

i said they suffer the same symptoms and health issues as an average white european the only difference is they are from another haplogroup!!! get me?

as i said various posts before the only albinos(albinism isnt limited to any phenotyp) who bred in large numbers exclusively amongst themselves were indian albinos nowdays referring to themselves as anglosaxons celts and or slavs! every other albino group be it asian african or whatever mixed with heathy tribesmen to eliminate recessive genes only indian albinos established a racially exclusive albino nation thats why most europeans have the same haplogroup and same phenotype and least diversity from all continents around the globe!!!

I don't like to poke holes into your flamboyant 'hypotheses', but how come that Native Americans, Koreans or Japanese are also so much lighter-skinned than, say Bantu peoples or Australian Aboriginals?
i repeat again the japanese koreans and such are nothing else than a mixed subrace formed by intermarriages between han chinese and albino indian scythians thats why you will even nowadays find europid people in the area ! like aynu uyghurs kazahks etc and you find red haired remains in china because of this ancient hsitory of intermarriages between chinese and indian albinos called scythians which resulted in new subraces as japanese and koreans

and by the way none of them is albino they still have a helathy dose of melanin in eyes hair and skin even when lighter as their brown ancestors thats uncomparable to europeans!

 
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ever wondered why europeans have same language same haplogroup and same phenotypes as indians except lacking melanin(oculocutaneous albinism)?

http://s7.postimg.org/6rhan56t7/slovansky_kozak_a_indicky_muz.png

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So many coincidences am i just hallucinating?...

here you have your "cold adapted" white indian albinos called "europeans"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eachers-ban-suncream-sports-day-practice.html


yes and this one "cold adapted" european girl which is even not fully albino cause her parents mixed with some southerners even after snowboarding in ice cold mountains lookes like this.. perfectly adapted
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you didnt read correctly

i said they suffer the same symptoms and health issues as an average white european the only difference is they are from another haplogroup!!! get me?

as i said various posts before the only albinos(albinism isnt limited to any phenotyp) who bred in large numbers exclusively amongst themselves were indian albinos nowdays referring to themselves as anglosaxons celts and or slavs! every other albino group be it asian african or whatever mixed with heathy tribesmen to eliminate recessive genes only indian albinos established a racially exclusive albino nation thats why most europeans have the same haplogroup and same phenotype and at least diversity from all continents around the globe!!!


i repeat again the japanese koreans and such are nothing else than a mixed subrace formed by intermarriages between han chinese and albino indian scythians thats why you will even nowadays find europid people in the area ! like aynu uyghurs kazahks etc and you find red haired remains in china because of this ancient hsitory of intermarriages between chinese and indian albinos called scythians which resulted in new subraces as japanese and koreans

and by the way none of them is albino they still have a helathy dose of melanin in eyes hair and skin even when lighter as their brown ancestors
You are still avoiding scientific proof of Indian Albinism mutation being same as OCA2 mutation in white europeans. I'm pretty sure you can find sequenced OCA2 to compare the mutations. The proof is on you because it is your hypothesis, right?

Let's assume that you are right. How do you propose Indian Albino kids survived in india (no UV protection) and propagated this recessive trait for few generations, creating majority albion tribe? Can you point us to any Indian village where albino mutation created majority, and made this village ready for migration north? With today's population of India being few times bigger than ever it should be much easier, statistically speaking.
On top of it, this substantial albino population needed to noticed prevalence of skin cancer, after few generations, and correlate it with too much sun and white skin, and then make a group decision to move out to cooler climate. Heck, this is assuming that they knew about different solar radiation of different latitudes. That's quite a research to make, knowledge to acquire and science to have few thousands years ago!
Talking to you, I realised that in today's scientific world there are many who still deny these simple facts, sun, skin colour and diet correlation and causation. Therefore, I shouldn't demand too much from Albaino Indians.

Isn't there a simpler explanation?
 
i repeat again the japanese koreans and such are nothing else than a mixed subrace formed by intermarriages between han chinese and albino indian scythians thats why you will even nowadays find europid people in the area ! like aynu uyghurs kazahks etc and you find red haired remains in china because of this ancient hsitory of intermarriages between chinese and indian albinos called scythians which resulted in new subraces as japanese and koreans
Archaeology and historic records tell us about population movement Indo Iranians from Steppes to India and Middle East. There is no archeological or historic records about huge population movement from India to Europe. Except small groups of Gypsy, who most of the time don't want to mix much with locals, and neither show much of albinism. Not more than other races.
 
Can you post statistics of skin cancer in Australia and England. Let's see where white skin gives more health benefit.
it has no benefit in neither australia nor iceland! because it is not an adaptation but a genetic defect! 100% proved

here you have your "cold adaptation" debunked a so called "snowburn"
and by the way you need melanin to absorb vitamin d from the sun anywhere on earth try to wear a white shirt in summer and afterwards put on a black one and see the difference white skin reflects lgiht therefore it cannot absorb vitamin d thats why all our products in europe are fortified even the sweets!!! man how much ignorance more?
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this is the only "adaptation" left for white albinos in any environment!
http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/strea...-weather-tease-240p.blocks_desktop_medium.jpg

i myself as an european accept thsi fact and only eurocentrists can deny it because it makes their false world falling apart

now at least you know where the caveman vampire shy of daylight european mythology originates from(white european aka indian albinos or bluebloods albinos have such pale skin that babies are born blue )!!!

 
Archaeology and historic records tell us about population movement Indo Iranians from Steppes to India and Middle East. There is no archeological or historic records about huge population movement from India to Europe. Except small groups of Gypsy, who most of the time don't want to mix much with locals, and neither show much of albinism. Not more than other races.
haha the aryan invasion was debunked long ago my friend and i gave you lots of evidence for my theory which in fact is not even a theory but a provable fact 100%
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=008590;p=1#000000

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=008217

INBREEDING CAUSED THE ALBINO OFFSPRING IN INDIANS WHICH LATER BECAME EUROPEANS AS THEY MOVED TO A COLDER CLIMATE TO SURVIVE!!! UNDENIABLE 100% APPROVED
 
it has no benefit in neither australia nor iceland! because it is not an adaptation but a genetic defect! 100% proved

here you have your "cold adaptation" debunked a so called "snowburn"
and by the way you need melanin to absorb vitamin d from the sun anywhere on earth try to wear a white shirt in summer and afterwards put on a black one and see the difference white skin reflects lgiht therefore it cannot absorb vitamin d thats why all our products in europe are fortified even the sweets!!! man how much ignorance more?
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this is the only "adaptation" left for white albinos in any environment!
http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/strea...-weather-tease-240p.blocks_desktop_medium.jpg

i myself as an european accept thsi fact and only eurocentrists can deny it because it makes their false world falling apart
If color of skin doesn't matter, neither vitamin D production, tell me why there were no black tribes living in Europe or North Asia, and were no white tribes in Equatorial Area? Let's skip the colonial era and modern population movements.
 
haha the aryan invasion was debunked long ago my friend and i gave you lots of evidence for my theory which in fact is not even a theory but a provable fact 100%
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=008590;p=1#000000
You have to do better than this. We are not the ones who makes bold and incredible claims. The proof is on you and you are not doing the best job arguing your points.

Where is the proof that albinism mutation is the same OCA2 mutation of white people? Without this your hypotheses crumbles.
We are still waiting, but our patience is running out. Your derogatory and disrespectful attitude towards Eupedia members is not helping either.
 
You have to do better than this. We are not the ones who makes bold and incredible claims. The proof is on you and you are not doing the best job arguing your points.

Where is the proof that albinism mutation is the same OCA2 mutation of white people? Without this your hypotheses crumbles.
We are still waiting, but our patience is running out. Your derogatory and disrespectful attitude towards Eupedia members is not helping either.
HERE IT IS!
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=008217
 
If color of skin doesn't matter, neither vitamin D production, tell me why there were no black tribes living in Europe or North Asia, and were no white tribes in Equatorial Area? Let's skip the colonial era and modern population movements.
i must repeat myself again on something i already answered in my previous posts
here again..

The claim of whites getiing white skin from low uv cannot be taken seriously in light of eskimos, nennets and indigenous chilens from artic regions or near artic regions all of whom are dark or dark brown skinned. Further when you compare this to kazakstan which has high uv the claim cannot no longer be believed. Whites are clearly just an albinoid people like this who interbred with each other and moved to somewhere in central asia with consistently low uv.

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Dobruja_Thrace_1.htm

eskimos, colchians, nenets, mansi, khanty, lapps, chilean indians do you want me to name more dark skinned flat nosed people living in coldest places or is it enough?! also the food theory is rubbish because i never heard of a scandinavian eating any dish without meatballs or salmon which is enough to fit the vitamin d needs even for an albino! albinos simply are not adapted to any environment thats a fact and 100% PROVED
http://www.beforethey.com/media/c/288x288/images/Nenets/nenet_portrait_crop.jpg

still hang on to your manipulated albino made up history(HIS STORY)?!
 
Following-up on the SLC45A2 gene in Humans.


SLC45A2: a novel malignant melanoma-associated gene.
Fernandez LP, Milne RL, Pita G, Avilés JA, Lázaro P, Benítez J, Ribas G.
Source

Human Genetics Group, Human Cancer Genetics Program, Centro Nacional de Investigaciones Oncológicas, Madrid, Spain.
Abstract

Human pigmentation appears to be one of the strongest risk factors for malignant melanoma (MM). In humans, there is a long list of genes known to be involved in rare pigmentary disorders such as albinism. These genes explain most of the variation in pigmentation phenotypes seen in human populations, and they do this by regulating the level of synthesis, chemical composition, packaging, and distribution of melanin. This Spanish case-control study included 131 consecutive melanoma patients and 245 control subjects frequency-matched for sex and age. A total of 23 SNPs in six candidate genes (ASP, OCA2, TYR, TYRP1, SILV, and SLC45A) belonging to the pigmentation pathway were genotyped. We found that the variant allele of c.1122C>G, p.Phe374Leu (NCBI dbSNP rs16891982) in SLC45A2 (membrane associated transporter previously known as MATP) was associated with protection from MM (OR, 0.41; 95% CI, 0.24-0.70; P=0.008 after adjustment for multiple testing). This association was validated by the consistent link observed with dark hair, dark skin, dark eye color, and the presence of solar lentigins and childhood sunburns. This is the first time SLC45A2 has been described as a melanoma susceptibility gene in a light-skinned population.
 
Please learn the difference on genetic level between Albinism here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albinism, and white skin mutation of Europeans, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color. Once you learn that one is not related to another, you can come back and apologise to all the white people, or at least don't hate them so much.

trutharian

my grand-daughter on vacation under the sun of Florida (Miami) when she was three years old, she is not albino and even if his father is Haitian, and she supports the sun even better than her sisters who are less clear; It has now twelve years old with a skin in very well and not shaded ;therefore all that you write has no sense

They are miscellany with R1b and support the equatorial sun perfectly!

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fantastic natural adaptation to codl climate oh my gosh you ignorants of factual proof
he gets even problems in cold environment not to mention miami!
 
trutharian

my grand-daughter on vacation under the sun of Florida (Miami) when she was three years old, she is not albino and even if his father is Haitian, and she supports the sun even better than her sisters who are less clear; It has now twelve years old with a skin in very well and not shaded ;therefore all that you write has no sense

They are miscellany with R1b and support the equatorial sun perfectly!

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YES PERFECT NONSENSE!
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls5jsks3PE1qgy5nto1_400.jpg
http://www.plasticsurgeryafrica.org/images/albino2_big.jpg
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/63/8d/9b/638d9b259eaca455decda716dc4c11a8.jpg

europeans are simply albinos from india(haplogroup R) who are not adapted to neither cold nor hot climate get over the fact ! it is a genetic recessive defect not an adaptation ...

All albinos regardless if human or animal have the exact same problems with health and behaviour:
http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm
http://www.halodoberman.com/albinismhealth.html
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii126/jonny_trouble-cards/Mobile Uploads/IMG_9902.jpg
http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Anatolia/turk_4.jpg
 

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