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    Questions on my Y-DNA Haplogroup T

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    @KF
    Are you kit# N118478
    if so you are noted as having cts1848 now
    T1a2b Y6033>CTS933>CTS54>CTS8489>Z19945>CTS1848 Iberian
    .
    4 other cts1848 where processed 3 months ago , kits are
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    all are noted as
    T1a2b Y6033>CTS933>CTS54>[CTS8489>Z19945>CTS1848]? Germany
    .
    and there is also another belgium
    536211
    T1a2b Y6033>CTS933>CTS54>CTS8489>Z19945>CTS1848 Belgium
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    all have 22 for DYS390
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    @kf

    I ran the yfull plot for myself .....see below

    All are T1a2 unless specified


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    @kf

    I ran the yfull plot for myself .....see below

    All are T1a2 unless specified

    I'm on the same Bracket with Kf, do you if I, or Levi are also effected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I'm on the same Bracket with Kf, do you if I, or Levi are also effected?
    this is KF plots

    the south Italy is kit # N4188 .............not sure who that is
    I am unsure about Levi either............but he is from north England

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    Thank you Sile. :)

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    Questions on my Y-DNA Haplogroup T

    FTDNA has my Terminal snp as CTS8862, and negative PAGES00113, Y17493.
    Also negative Y21204, Y7381, Y7438, and so on.
    My FTDNA Y snp download file doesn't have Z19945 , but it does have CTS1848.
    Is that a Prediction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    FTDNA has my Terminal snp as CTS8862, and negative PAGES00113, Y17493.
    Also negative Y21204, Y7381, Y7438, and so on.
    My FTDNA Y snp download file doesn't have Z19945 , but it does have CTS1848.
    Is that a Prediction?
    if you are positive CTS1848, then you are positive for Z19945 and then your line is 500years younger than mine because Yfull has me as Z19945 with negative CTS1848
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    Negative known SNP are always older than positive ones

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    Questions on my Y-DNA Haplogroup T

    Thanks, I wasn't sure if FTDNA Y snp download file Report All snps or just the Positives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Thanks, I wasn't sure if FTDNA Y snp download file Report All snps or just the Positives.
    Ftdna is behind in its tree..
    ..
    here is KF
    N118478 38 13 5 T1a2b Y6033>CTS933>CTS54>CTS8489>Z19945>CTS1848 Iberian
    as noted by the yfull team .............and you are in the same group as KF IIRC
    ..
    they have also found these new Z19945 people from about 2 months ago

    I have no idea where the 5 digit kit numbers are from , ie, company

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    @KF
    Are you kit# N118478
    if so you are noted as having cts1848 now
    T1a2b Y6033>CTS933>CTS54>CTS8489>Z19945>CTS1848 Iberian
    .
    4 other cts1848 where processed 3 months ago , kits are
    96359
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    all are noted as
    T1a2b Y6033>CTS933>CTS54>[CTS8489>Z19945>CTS1848]? Germany
    .
    and there is also another belgium
    536211
    T1a2b Y6033>CTS933>CTS54>CTS8489>Z19945>CTS1848 Belgium
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    all have 22 for DYS390
    Where is this denoted? FTDNA? If so, this is exciting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KFundora View Post
    Where is this denoted? FTDNA? If so, this is exciting!
    http://www.semargl.me/en/dna/ydna/
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    the site is run by the same people who run yfull program

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    the age of my z19945 has moved further back

    so 3410 less ydp which is the year 1950 gives me a year of 1460BC

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    @KF
    are you in yfull and is that IBS below yourself?
    My yfull matches ......
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    Spoke/written to Reddick knox and he says his origins are from Hesse Germany and the original surname was Radich ( radish in German )
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    Spoke to Bernot and he said he was walloon and his ancestors where cannon makers for the spanish in Spanish netherlands.
    .
    The Italian is from Trentino/South Tyrol .........I cannot make contact
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    PUR is from originally Galicia Spain
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    The blank country one is surname Hill from South Carolina, a horse trader, origins are west Scottish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    @KF
    are you in yfull and is that IBS below yourself?
    My yfull matches ......
    .
    .
    .
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    Spoke/written to Reddick knox and he says his origins are from Hesse Germany and the original surname was Radich ( radish in German )
    .
    Spoke to Bernot and he said he was walloon and his ancestors where cannon makers for the spanish in Spanish netherlands.
    .
    The Italian is from Trentino/South Tyrol .........I cannot make contact
    .
    PUR is from originally Galicia Spain
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    The blank country one is surname Hill from South Carolina, a horse trader, origins are west Scottish
    Remember you said that those HG samples were from papers, so no that is not me. I have not submitted/uploaded to YFull.

    Interesting info from the other members!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huracan View Post
    Remember you said that those HG samples were from papers, so no that is not me. I have not submitted/uploaded to YFull.
    Interesting info from the other members!
    Have you changed your site name? How did you do that?
    Yes HG are people included by the yfull from older studies , these are not fabricated numbers , but real people. I will ask yfull about the IBS person, I have a suspicion that it might be from Giron Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    Have you changed your site name? How did you do that?
    Yes HG are people included by the yfull from older studies , these are not fabricated numbers , but real people. I will ask yfull about the IBS person, I have a suspicion that it might be from Giron Spain.
    I Google searched how to change one's username on Eupedia and it gave me a forum where they provided private message link to Maciamo. There you can request a username change!

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    @Alpenjager
    As part of this 2015 paper
    United in death—related by blood? Genetic and archeometric analyses of skeletal remains from the neolithic earthwork bruchsal-aue
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    First published: 25 March 2015Full publication history

    I was given these Ydna samples
    BrA 7a = I2a2a M223
    BrA 7B = T - L131
    I1 = I2c1a2 S6687
    I2 = Qm3a6 L804
    I3 = I2a2b L38
    A1 = J2a1 Z6065
    A2 = I1
    A3 = R1b
    A4 = R1b
    Do you have these or the paper in your historic samples ?

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    BrA 7a // DYS393= -, DYS393=13, DYS385=16, DYS389-I=14, DYS437=(13)/(14), DYS456=14, DYS458=16, DYS635= -

    BrA 7b // DYS393= -, DYS393=13, DYS385=(16), DYS389-I=14, DYS437=(15), DYS456=14, DYS458=16, DYS635= -

    BrA 7a and Bra 7b is the same individual sample with two different tries to get results.

    Feature =162
    Grabe number =1
    Ind. (lit.) =8
    Ind.(this study) =BrA 7
    Tooth sample =47
    Analyses = aDNA, Sr
    Bone sample =Femur Left
    Analyses =Sr, C, N
    Morph. age =30–35
    Morph. sex =Male
    Genetic sex =Male
    Stress indicators =C. orbitalia/cranii
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    OK - I ordered the Big Y on 11/15 - maybe I'll be able to push through this 'mystery'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teaford View Post
    I had my brother's DNA tested a few years back and we've been reclassified several times. T-L131, T-PAGES00011 and now it looks like we are probably L446+ CTS11984 and maybe S27463.

    I sent a question in to the administrators of the T group over on FTDNA because it just seems so weird to me to be the 'only' T-PAGES00011 for so long and here is Gareth's reply - btw, I hope the BIG Y sale is a really good one this year.

    Hello Susan

    As far as I can tell your brother is the only T-PAGES00011 in the database. PAGES00011 was originally discovered in haplogroup A and when searching I found a PAGES00011+ example in haplogroup R. It therefore appears to be a recurrent SNP and possibly unreliable. I strongly suspect that when FTDNA added it to their tree a few years ago the person analysing the data made the fundamental error of not checking whether SNPs had more than one occurrance in the same haplogroup.

    So I would disregard your brother's T-PAGES00011 designation. What we do know from his Geno 2.0 results is that he is L446+ CTS11984-. We have 4 kits with this combination who have tested Big Y and three of them share a number of novel SNPs including S27463. One of them (379058) is closer to your brother than the other two and in fact is quite high up on his list of matches at 67 markers - see the attached screen shot (I have also included the matches at 111 markers although 379058 hasn't tested to that level). I think it's very likely that your brother is S27463+ and shares many novel SNPs with 379058.

    I believe FTDNA are about to announce their annual Fathers' Day sale. If Big Y is included in the sale I would encourage you to go ahead and order the test.

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    @huracan

    As of yesterday , you have been placed in the T-Z19945 group ( ftdna project ) along with myself and the 3 x Walloon/East French people ..........the other is the Hessian named Radich

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    Greetings everyone,


    I did receive recently my test results. For my paternal line I received: T-CTS6507 as my subclade. Although nearly every first and second degree ancestor from my family lives since the 18th century in Persia, there is a family myth that my fathers ancestors came from southern Italy. Honestly I did not think that the test would confirm anything but my autosomal results did show about 1/3 from the italian region (17.9% from Tuscany, 12,4% from South Italy and 2.2% from North Italy).
    I would like to know if there is a way to find more information from my y-subclade or from my raw data, since I saw more "recent" T-subclades online.


    Best regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parthamaspates View Post
    Greetings everyone,
    I did receive recently my test results. For my paternal line I received: T-CTS6507 as my subclade. Although nearly every first and second degree ancestor from my family lives since the 18th century in Persia, there is a family myth that my fathers ancestors came from southern Italy. Honestly I did not think that the test would confirm anything but my autosomal results did show about 1/3 from the italian region ([FONT="]17.9%[/FONT] from [FONT="]Tuscany[/FONT][FONT="], 12,4% from [/FONT][FONT="]South Italy and [/FONT]2.2% from North Italy).
    I would like to know if there is a way to find more information from my y-subclade or from my raw data, since I saw more "recent" T-subclades online.
    Best regards
    Hi...Do you have or have tested for CTS6280?........as some are found in Messina Sicily.
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    CTS6280 is the next SNP after CTS6507

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parthamaspates View Post
    Greetings everyone,

    I did receive recently my test results. For my paternal line I received: T-CTS6507 as my subclade. Although nearly every first and second degree ancestor from my family lives since the 18th century in Persia, there is a family myth that my fathers ancestors came from southern Italy. Honestly I did not think that the test would confirm anything but my autosomal results did show about 1/3 from the italian region (17.9% from Tuscany, 12,4% from South Italy and 2.2% from North Italy).
    I would like to know if there is a way to find more information from my y-subclade or from my raw data, since I saw more "recent" T-subclades online.

    Best regards
    Hello and welcome! Question, what test gave you those Italian percentages?
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    Thank you for your quick answers! I made the regular test on Living DNA, testing the paternal, maternal and the autosomal mixture. These percentages are from my "complete" family ancestry chart. Unfortunately CTS6280 is not included in the shown tree. Is there a chance that it is included in the raw data?


    I encountered on "yfull.com" the following sample from a person from Caligari only showing the CTS6507 (id:ERS256914).
    Last edited by Parthamaspates; 30-12-17 at 02:56.

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