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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    Another match arrived today from the Bon family of Volgago del Montello, Veneto
    4 family link so far ....when I get data I will present it

    Paternal side ( ydna )

    Bon family is part of the venetian "nobility" ie, government
    Fathers mtdna T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna T1a1e
    Sons mtdna K1a4o
    Mum paternal line R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side I1d1-P109
    Wife paternal line R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    a 23andme match with myself....unsure how accurate 23andme is

    surname - Lehnus

    3 households in Lombardy and 2 in Friuli ( gorizia town )

    ydna - T-L446
    mtdna - X2b4

    4th cousin

    .........................

    Lehnus matches the Bernot line of Walloon Belgium , whose ancestors are also from gorizia Friuli


    The wife of the above matches me in Ftdna ................but the husband is T-L446 ...which is my line
    how much creedence can we give that one of the sons found his way into my line ?

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    This person is T1a2-L446 norway

    Anders Hestenes, born 1490,Hyen,Gloppen,SFJ Norway

    I match a " 3rd-4th cousin" with 2 segments and 14cm with a norwegian family called Onstad ....................apparently linked with Hestenes .....................I doubt it as i can follow my paternal line for over 500 years with written records.....but , I will check further

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    It means that z19945 is the father of pages00113 and not its equal
    I too saw that FTDNA T Group results now have PAGES00113 as CTS8862+ Z19945+. In fact, when I checked my FTDNA results the haplotree now shows PAGES00113 as below CTS8862/CTS1848. Attaching a screenshot of what I found here.

    Screen Shot 2020-01-05 at 11.00.41 AM.jpg

    As @Salento said, many of this group are Ashkenazi but also includes one Puerto Rican (surname Charriez, which appears to be French in origin). Thought this was interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huracan View Post
    I too saw that FTDNA T Group results now have PAGES00113 as CTS8862+ Z19945+. In fact, when I checked my FTDNA results the haplotree now shows PAGES00113 as below CTS8862/CTS1848. Attaching a screenshot of what I found here.

    Screen Shot 2020-01-05 at 11.00.41 AM.jpg

    As @Salento said, many of this group are Ashkenazi but also includes one Puerto Rican (surname Charriez, which appears to be French in origin). Thought this was interesting.
    I think the change is due to my conversation with the owner of the brooks line .......who states the curtiss line is related to the brooks line ( about 125 years ago ) and the curtiss is related to the Frush/Freshour line

    Kit MK5443 is a "multikit" from the Frush/brooks family and they now sit with us on the ftdna T group ...........they have been changed from Z19945 to next level down T-BY64684

    The curtiss and brooks are identical in Y111 str levels and snp level
    https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Freshour/default.aspx?section=yresults



    Btw ....kit N145191 is the Caquelin line ...........see previous posts as the owner has given a small history on the family


    also.......below are all in ftdna 0 or 1 step from myself



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    Spoke to Gareth yesterday....................he is splitting up the Z19945 group in ftdna

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    I have always had a very close match with a Altenhofen family in ftdna.....i have now found that it is linked with the Lello family from Roana, Vicenza,Veneto...., so a brorher and sister married into the other family......one of these families is the T1a ydna family

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    a confusing T marker

    I am zero distance in ftdna with

    Christian Atherholt (1724 - 1812)





    Christian Atherholt
    Born 1724 in Hanover , Germany
    Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
    [sibling(s) unknown]
    Husband of Anna Marie Hedwig — married [date unknown] [location unknown]

    yet this person is in another link

    with Christopher Kile family in Hanover who is also T .................but he is positive for snp P322 , while the Altherholt line plus my line are negative for snp P322


    >..........................................

    I will chat with a fellow aussie , who is also T1a2 and has snp P322 .................I think his family is either thuringian or silesian ( german )
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    I thought I mentioned the Gei family before..............oh well another contact yesterday .........from N.Gei 78 yo male ......fluent in Italian, Venetian and Austrian



    Gei, Dall'Asta, Elle, Seitz ( a small list from Gei site ) ......................2 of these I have links, Gei in BDM records and Seitz in 3rd cousin 23andme match

    In their tree they have two names which are linked to me......Frassetto and Puppato


    also the Hintz line in the Gei family tree are from Padua province which is related to one of my paternal line that went to Morgano

    All names above come from Belluno and Valle di Cadore areas of the Belluno province of Veneto region

    others from southern Belluno province in town of Fonzaso which are linked to me are the
    Toigo and Cemin families
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    another T match for me ..............unsure it is rated 3rd cousin to distant ( what does that mean ?)

    Vincenzo Abliedinger ....whose original surname was Zocher from Enns Austria .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enns_(.......originally from Maniago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maniago

    this sample cross matches many segments matching with this person, myself my father and sister ( but not my son ?)
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