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Was recently able to trace my paternal line to ~1700s in the Canary Islands, Spain. Updated my info on FTDNA. Based on oral histories and genealogies of other Fundora families, this was expected as the Canaries served as a notable source of Fundora's who migrated to Cuba or elsewhere. In trying to find the ultimate mainland source, people have told me Asturias in Northern Spain may be the origin place of the surname. Perhaps that is where my paternal line ultimately hails from...
So this officially links my CTS1848 line to Spain
Last edited by Huracan; 16-11-20 at 16:40.
Another 2 x T1a that are distant matches to myself
Christian Burtscher
Francesco Antonio Onorato (1727 - 1806) Lucania, Italy
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others of T1a2 not linked to myself, but close for my snp
Carl August Zimmerling b.1834 from North-Tyrol
Hans Caspar Gräser; b1660 from Nosellari, Trento, Trentino-South Tyrol, Italy
thanks
I got a message that the person came from Foggia or Molise
the surname comes from these 2 area
Biccari, Foggia, Italy
Alberona, Foggia, Italy
I was also given this as his parents
Vincenzo Onorato, Rachele Verdorato
Usually ato surname endings are Veneti....same as endings with lin, otto, acco and gher to name a few ...................not to say that Vincenzo was Veneto , because he seems complete foggian
new yfull matches
they have me confirm SK1480 , but Yfull do not use it
Known SNPs at this position:
SK1480 A to G YB
I lost my notes on samples NA20758 ........it says TSI ( toscani ) but I think it is Apulia.....one of these below
TB9PE Benedetto Bari, Italy
13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30 16 8 9 11 12 26 15 19 33 11 11 15 16 10 12 23 24 16 13 18 17 34 34 13 9
YSU4S Da Lessio Salerno, Italy
13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30 16 9 9 11 12 27 15 19 35 11 11 15 16 10 11 23 25 16 13 19 16 34 34 14 9 12 11 15 11 8 17 17 8 11 10 8 12 11 20 20 17 10 12 12 15 8 26 21 11 12 14 10 11 12 11
Benedetto I know married a german woman
Da Lessio can also be Alessio as I have spoken to a woman who runs the line ............but I think the original surname was lessio
https://www.antenati-italiani.org/it/cognomi/8234-lessio
https://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-co...taliani/LESSIO
probably: ... D’Alesssio ... :)
Il mio ... :
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Last edited by torzio; 23-12-20 at 02:53.
... Stratford ... go by I-95 or nicer Merritt Parkway to get to New York![]()
A new yfull match for myself
James Carson b. 1765 England YF13207
T-BY45377
hmm, Carson ......from the Good, the Bad and the Ugly film........did he hide the gold
I state that ERS is a sardinian who matches another sample in Trentino surname erspamer
https://www.italianames.com/italian-...-maps/ERSPAMER
The Pole is not from trentino.......we chat regularly on messenger, he states he is currently living in old prusi lands -.......old prussians near the baltic sea , east of Gdansk
He states his ancestors are thuringians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuringia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussians
he is an engineer on a merchant boat , trading between Poland and Britain
183663Erspamer Giovanni ERSPAMER, b. 1704 (Malosco, Italy) Italy T-M70
this site is so crap in updating ones messages
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~berta...72.html#I18790
I have a distant DNA connection with this line from link above
Erspamer, Giovanni Giuseppe (1826 - 1903) - male
b. 19 Mar 1826
d. 23 Sep 1903 in Fondo,Trento,Trentino,Italy
father: Erspamer, Giovanni (*1787 - >1835)
mother: Sartori, Marianna (1791 - 1875)
spouse: Pretol, Maria (1841 - 1887)
4 members of the group below match me in level 0 or 1 , others do not appear
more info below
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hill-3101
I used SAPP (https://www.jdvsite.com) to create a Y-STR tree of CTS11984/CTS54 to get an idea about origin and dispersal. I specified in my input the currently known positive and negative SNPs for each sample and the program did the rest. It is in high agreement with YFull dates and organization. The red annotations are predictions based on timing and the patterns I see. It suggests CTS11984 originated in Central Europe ≥3,000 ybp, suggesting a connection to the Bronze Age expansion of Indo-Europeans such as the Celts, Italics, Illyrians, etc.
CTS54 tree p1.jpg CTS54 root with CTS8489 and CTS8862
CTS54 tree p2.jpgFirst CTS54* branch: the UK individuals (Powell, etc.)
CTS54 tree p3.jpgCTS8862* and Y17493 branch (Knox, etc.)
CTS54 tree p4.jpg CTS1848 branch (those cut off are Pereira [Azores] on the left and two Bernot individuals at the bottom)
Last edited by Huracan; 03-01-21 at 18:10.
Sorry about the poor image quality. Trying to see how to share a higher resolution one.
CTS54 tree p5.jpg
Last part: the rest of Z19945 (not including CTS1848) showing BY143483, the Ashkenazi group (PAGES00113) and the Brooks/Curtiss group