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    Quote Originally Posted by Huracan View Post
    So the Brooks and Curtiss lines are linked via Brücke from Hanover, Germany and they are also linked to the Frush/Froschauer line which states origin from Rhineland-Pfalz, but the FTDNA project shows how descendants have different Y-DNA...

    Regardless, Brooks, Curtiss, and Frush/Froschauer are closely related in terms of STRs and all should be BY64684+. FTDNA has Brooks being FT126500 which the FTDNA haplotree has as downstream of BY64684.

    What do you mean by ...different ydna ?

    They are all T1a2 branch ....our branch

    you mentioned in 2014 , you are linked with them https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...l=1#post435157
    Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ... K1a4
    Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side ... I1-Y33791
    Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282

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    @Huracan
    What I got from administrator of Ysearch in mid 2012 .................yoou can see Reddick on the list ...............pity Ftdna closed down Ysearch


    These are the people closest to you on Ysearch and of course Dalessio is the closest:

    3THJ8 Jones Unknown
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30 17 9 9 11 12 26 15 19 32 11 11 15 16 10 10 23 25 16 13 17 18 32 33 14 9

    4MNH3 Schales Germany
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30 16 9 9 11 12 26 15 20 33 11 15 15 16 10 11 23 25 16 13 17 17 34 34 14 9

    CXMD6 Mozet Martin, Slovenia
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30

    R4VSF Reddick Florida, USA
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30

    TB9PE Benedetto Bari, Italy
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30 16 8 9 11 12 26 15 19 33 11 11 15 16 10 12 23 24 16 13 18 17 34 34 13 9


    YSU4S Dalessio Selerno, Italy
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30 16 9 9 11 12 27 15 19 35 11 11 15 16 10 11 23 25 16 13 19 16 34 34 14 9 12 11 15 11 8 17 17 8 11 10 8 12 11 20 20 17 10 12 12 15 8 26 21 11 12 14 10 11 12 11

    It seems to me clear an expansion from the "Italian Refugium" Northwards as I think having demonstrated for other Y and mt haplogroups. Big Y or Full Y could say how old is this subclade of T-L446, i.e. if this haplogroup was in Italy many thousands of years ago or more recently. From this we'll be able to understand also the ethnic origin of this ancestor.


    we don't know how really close they are to you, but amongst the people with at least 37 markers we can see that Dalessio is the closest to you in many markers and above all in DYS447: you have 28, Dalessio 27 and all the Northern Europeans 26. This is an important markers and clearly you are very close to Dalessio. Beyond this Italians are a little tested as to Central Europeans and above all the people from the Isles


    It seems that your T is in Europe from at least 6800 years: From Western Black Sea area.


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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    @Huracan
    What I got from administrator of Ysearch in mid 2012 .................yoou can see Reddick on the list ...............pity Ftdna closed down Ysearch


    These are the people closest to you on Ysearch and of course Dalessio is the closest:

    3THJ8 Jones Unknown
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30 17 9 9 11 12 26 15 19 32 11 11 15 16 10 10 23 25 16 13 17 18 32 33 14 9

    4MNH3 Schales Germany
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30 16 9 9 11 12 26 15 20 33 11 15 15 16 10 11 23 25 16 13 17 17 34 34 14 9

    CXMD6 Mozet Martin, Slovenia
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30

    R4VSF Reddick Florida, USA
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30

    TB9PE Benedetto Bari, Italy
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30 16 8 9 11 12 26 15 19 33 11 11 15 16 10 12 23 24 16 13 18 17 34 34 13 9


    YSU4S Dalessio Selerno, Italy
    13 22 13 10 13 13 11 12 11 14 13 30 16 9 9 11 12 27 15 19 35 11 11 15 16 10 11 23 25 16 13 19 16 34 34 14 9 12 11 15 11 8 17 17 8 11 10 8 12 11 20 20 17 10 12 12 15 8 26 21 11 12 14 10 11 12 11

    It seems to me clear an expansion from the "Italian Refugium" Northwards as I think having demonstrated for other Y and mt haplogroups. Big Y or Full Y could say how old is this subclade of T-L446, i.e. if this haplogroup was in Italy many thousands of years ago or more recently. From this we'll be able to understand also the ethnic origin of this ancestor.


    we don't know how really close they are to you, but amongst the people with at least 37 markers we can see that Dalessio is the closest to you in many markers and above all in DYS447: you have 28, Dalessio 27 and all the Northern Europeans 26. This is an important markers and clearly you are very close to Dalessio. Beyond this Italians are a little tested as to Central Europeans and above all the people from the Isles


    It seems that your T is in Europe from at least 6800 years: From Western Black Sea area.


    again from administrator ..................i forgot he states I am a Ladin from Italian Alps

    About Dalessio there are two accounts on Ysearch: YSU4S and TTAWM. The contact person is always Carol Jacob. You may write her through Ysearch.
    Of course she is probably an American and makes many mistakes:
    1) the ancestors are one time "Ales Dalessio" with some variance in the surname: Delessio and D'Alessio"
    2) The dates of birth and death 1995 (evidently for 1895) and 1968
    3) The town of origin "Selerno" is very likely "Salerno" with an American pronunciation.
    Everything is in favor of a D'Alessio from Salerno. This haplotype is diffused everywhere in Italy and very likely is here from many thousands of years. Beyond this your haplotype, even though certainly belonging to the same cluster, may be separated from thousands of years, that only a Big Y or a Full Genome could specify.

    Your origin are very likely in that Ladin speaking region we spoke about elsewhere about the Niederstaetter's paper. Perhaps in the future I'll be able to say where this haplogroup was many thousands of years ago.


    I do currently have a myheritage connection with a D'Alessio , but she states here original surname was Di Lessio and came from Caorle on the coast

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caorle

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    What do you mean by ...different ydna ?

    They are all T1a2 branch ....our branch

    you mentioned in 2014 , you are linked with them https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...l=1#post435157
    The Freshour project background mentions three sons of Johann Georg Froschauer: Wendel, Georg, and John. The results page shows each son's descendants being of different Y-DNA (Wendel I-M170, John I-M223, Georg T-M70 [aka BY64684], and another named Jacob R-PH4276) so I'm having trouble connecting them all to the same father.

    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results

    Instead, I think they were just"categorized" like that and could be unrelated but just have the same surname or its variations. For my organizational purposes in creating the Y-STR phylogenies, I'll accept it as is and list the Frush/Froshour men as BY64684+ and hailing from Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huracan View Post
    The Freshour project background mentions three sons of Johann Georg Froschauer: Wendel, Georg, and John. The results page shows each son's descendants being of different Y-DNA (Wendel I-M170, John I-M223, Georg T-M70 [aka BY64684], and another named Jacob R-PH4276) so I'm having trouble connecting them all to the same father.

    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results

    Instead, I think they were just"categorized" like that and could be unrelated but just have the same surname or its variations. For my organizational purposes in creating the Y-STR phylogenies, I'll accept it as is and list the Frush/Froshour men as BY64684+ and hailing from Germany.



    You do know that all the Frush people listed above has your snp of CTS1848 ...............which makes you closer to them , than myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post


    You do know that all the Frush people listed above has your snp of CTS1848 ...............which makes you closer to them , than myself
    Interesting I thought they were BY64684?

    Also, Hulpeau from Belgium tested Z19950+

    Gamma-1.1-D T-CTS1848 (confirmed/predicted)
    327403 Jean Hulpeau, b. 1509 and d. 1589 Belgium T-Z19950

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huracan View Post
    Interesting I thought they were BY64684?

    Also, Hulpeau from Belgium tested Z19950+

    Gamma-1.1-D T-CTS1848 (confirmed/predicted)
    327403 Jean Hulpeau, b. 1509 and d. 1589 Belgium T-Z19950
    id:YF78879 BEL [BE-WHT]wln (Matt Verona)
    id:YF79187 BEL [BE-WHT]wln (Francisco Bernot)
    id:YF79186 BEL [BE-WHT]wln (Paulino Bernot)
    id:YF67318 BEL [BE-WHT]wln (Ed Bernot)
    and
    Jean Tillieux.........T-Z19950 > T-CTS1848>T-Z19945>T-CTS8862>etc.>T-CTS933>Y6055>T-L446>T-L131 Jean Tillieux/Belgium.. <<<<<<<< same as Jean Halpeau

    All of these have your CTS1848 marker

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    Guess I was confused. I remember you saying the Brooks and Curtiss lines were related to Frush/Froschauer lines but if Frush is CTS1848 then they aren't closely related to the Brucke/Brooks/Curtiss. Will correct in my STR list and phylogeny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huracan View Post
    Guess I was confused. I remember you saying the Brooks and Curtiss lines were related to Frush/Froschauer lines but if Frush is CTS1848 then they aren't closely related to the Brucke/Brooks/Curtiss. Will correct in my STR list and phylogeny.
    your group has Curtiss , Brooks and Frush lines and are shown Positive for CTS1848 regardless of what marker they are now, You are CTS1848 positive, does not matter what marker you end up in the future.



    my group is Negative for CTS1848 , .........this group has Italian, Dutch, German, Poles, Scots ( Hill line, both carolina states in USA )


    We are all positive for the group Z19945 .............but our branches split, either having positive CTS2214 or negative

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    your group has Curtiss , Brooks and Frush lines and are shown Positive for CTS1848 regardless of what marker they are now, You are CTS1848 positive, does not matter what marker you end up in the future.



    my group is Negative for CTS1848 , .........this group has Italian, Dutch, German, Poles, Scots ( Hill line, both carolina states in USA )


    We are all positive for the group Z19945 .............but our branches split, either having positive CTS2214 or negative
    Screen Shot 2021-02-09 at 11.43.11 AM.jpg

    Screen Shot 2021-02-09 at 11.45.39 AM.jpg

    We're all Z19945 but the Brooks and Curtiss lines are not CTS1848

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huracan View Post
    Screen Shot 2021-02-09 at 11.43.11 AM.jpg

    Screen Shot 2021-02-09 at 11.45.39 AM.jpg

    We're all Z19945 but the Brooks and Curtiss lines are not CTS1848

    These charts are not accurate ............eg in my SNP report I show that I am not even tested for CTS1848 , salento shows he is negative, Caquelin shows Positive, Halpeau shows positive, Vironet shows as positive,

    Daniel Curtiss only shows as not being tested for it ...page 6

    Salento on page 11 shows Negative

    yourself on page 9 shows positive

    this kit MI59655 shows positive

    Sizemore shows negative

    All 3 Bernot show positive

    All the Knox kits, not tested for CTS1848

    Laurent shows positive ...page 2

    I went through all 76 pages and could not find Brooks

    to conclude ..............ignore the tree you presented as it seems to be based on an incomplete SNP kit trees

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    In the block tree in ftdna it shows all of these branches has CTS1848



    so, I would not count the tree as being accurate in ftdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    In the block tree in ftdna it shows all of these branches has CTS1848



    so, I would not count the tree as being accurate in ftdna
    Thank you for this. Where can I access the block tree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huracan View Post
    Thank you for this. Where can I access the block tree?

    You get access to block tree once you do BigY

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    ... sharing again since I was mentioned :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... sharing again since I was mentioned :)

    Z19945 +
    A15857 / CTS1848 -
    BY143483 +
    SK1480 +





    while under SNP area , your CTS1848 had negative ...................mine had nothing on CTS1848, i needed to go to BigY and below is my snippet




    clearly ftdna snp markers and their trees , be it BigY or not are not in synch

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    while under SNP area , your CTS1848 had negative ...................mine had nothing on CTS1848, i needed to go to BigY and below is my snippet




    clearly ftdna snp markers and their trees , be it BigY or not are not in synch
    I tested CTS1848 with FTDNA and Yseq (both negative), so that’s settled ...

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    I have a paternal match as a 3rd-5th cousin with a person named
    Ronald William Toigo

    issue is , ftdna notes his ydna as L-M20

    I cannot find his kit # .............any ideas would help


    Many Toigo families come from Fanzaso town of Belluno province Veneto , other surnames that match with me from there are the Cemin family

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    Y Haplogroup T Ancient samples in timeline order. Any additional samples please forward me

    India Roopkund Lake B ( 150 yBP )
    I3403 ( 147 ± 92 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T1a1b1a1b-Y21207
    mtDNA: X2d

    Lebanon Sidon Crusader ( 700 yBP - Medieval )
    SI-42
    Y-DNA: T1a - M70
    mtDNA: J1b1a

    Sweden Varnhem ( 950 yBP - Viking Age )
    VK398
    Y-DNA: T1a1b2a
    mtDNA: H1b1+16362

    Russia near Finland Ladoga Varangians ( 950 yBP - Viking Age )
    VK17
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1
    mtDNA: U5a2a1b

    Italy near France Collegno ( 1350 yBP - Early Medieval ) Longobard Period
    CL23
    Y-DNA: T1a1b1a1 - CTS6071
    mtDNA: H

    Hungary Szólád ( Early Medieval ) Lombard Period no carbon date
    SZ36
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    mtDNA: U4c2a

    Lebanon Qornet ed-Deir ( 1794 yBP - Roman )
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    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2b2b1a - P77
    mtDNA: T1

    Kazakhstan Kok-Mardan ( 1800 yBP - Late Antiquity ) Kaunchi Culture ( Kangju )
    DA125 ( 1755 ± 41 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T1a2a1a1-Y13279
    mtDNA: U2e2a1

    Israel Tel Abel Beth Maccah
    I2201, Iron Age, 1011-846 calBCE
    I2201
    mtDNA: X2
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2b2b1a1a2 - CTS6280

    Turkmenistan Gonur Depe ( 3600 yBP - Bronze Age ) Bactria Margiana (BMAC)
    I1781 ( 3550 ± 30 yBP / 3841 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T-M184
    mtDNA: T1a1q

    Israel Tel Megiddo
    Middle-Late Bronze Age, 1971-1278 calBCE
    I4518
    mtDNA: HV2a1
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214

    Syria Alalakh site
    Middle-Late Bronze Age, 2111-1303 BC
    ALA015
    mtDNA: K1a
    Y-DNA: T1a1a - L208

    Syria Elba site
    Middle Bronze Age I(Eblaite), 2000-1800 BCE
    ETM026
    mtDNA: K1a4
    Y-DNA: T1a1 - L162

    Iran Tepe Hissar C (4100 yBP- Bronze Age) Tepe Hissar Culture
    I2514 ( 3915 ± 25 yBP / 4341 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T1a2a1a-Y13284
    mtDNA: W3b

    I2512 ( 4265 ± 25 yBP / 4846 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T-M184
    mtDNA: HV / HV9

    Morocco Kehf-el-Baroud ( 4950 yBP - Late Neolithic )
    ( 4940 ± 30 yBP ) other: 5565 ± 65 yBP
    KEB.6
    Y-DNA: T1a1a - L162
    mtDNA: K1a4a1

    Russia Ipatovo 3 ( 5400 yBP - Early Bronze Age ) Early Steppe Maykop Culture
    IV3002 ( 5383 ± 64 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T1 -CTS6004 probablyT1a2a-Y8614
    mtDNA: X1'2'3

    Israel Peqi'in Cave ( 6150 yBP - Late Chalcolithic ) 9 Samples !! ! Most ever found in one place and 4th oldest samples
    I1155
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: K1a

    I1160
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: N1a1b

    I1165
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: HV1a’b’c’

    I1166
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: H

    I1170
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: T1a2

    I1172
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: K1a

    I1178
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: I6

    I1180
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: T

    I1187
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: U6d
    Peqi'in Cave atDNA notes: Northern origin. They also carry the WHG G allele for Blue eyes at Rs12913832.

    Bulgaria Varna (6500 yBP-Chalcolithic) Varna Culture
    ANI152
    Y-DNA: T-Y3804 (x T1-Y3813)
    mtDNA: U2

    Germany Karsdorf ( 7100yBP - Early Neolithic ) LBK Culture
    I0795
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197
    mtDNA: H1 or H1au1b*

    I0797
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197
    mtDNA: H46b

    Kars537 ( 6958 ± 49 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197
    mtDNA: J1c6a

    Bulgaria Malak Preslavets ( 7600yBP - Mesolithic/Early Neolithic ) Criș Culture
    I0700
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197
    mtDNA: T2e

    I1108
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197
    mtDNA: T2e

    Jordan 'Ain Ghazal ( 9600 yBP - Early Neolithic ) Late Middle PPNB ( 9573 ± 39 yBP )
    Oldest Haplogroup T sample on record
    I1707
    Y-DNA: T1a - M70
    mtDNA: R0a
    Oldest Haplogroup T sample ever found

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. T View Post
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    India Roopkund Lake B ( 150 yBP )
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    Y-DNA: T1a1b1a1b-Y21207
    mtDNA: X2d
    Lebanon Sidon Crusader ( 700 yBP - Medieval )
    SI-42
    Y-DNA: T1a - M70
    mtDNA: J1b1a
    Sweden Varnhem ( 950 yBP - Viking Age )
    VK398
    Y-DNA: T1a1b2a
    mtDNA: H1b1+16362
    Russia near Finland Ladoga Varangians ( 950 yBP - Viking Age )
    VK17
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1
    mtDNA: U5a2a1b
    Italy near France Collegno ( 1350 yBP - Early Medieval ) Longobard Period
    CL23
    Y-DNA: T1a1b1a1 - CTS6071
    mtDNA: H
    Hungary Szólád ( Early Medieval ) Lombard Period no carbon date
    SZ36
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1a1a2b2 - PF7275
    mtDNA: U4c2a
    Lebanon Qornet ed-Deir ( 1794 yBP - Roman )
    QED-2
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2b2b1a - P77
    mtDNA: T1
    Kazakhstan Kok-Mardan ( 1800 yBP - Late Antiquity ) Kaunchi Culture ( Kangju )
    DA125 ( 1755 ± 41 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T1a2a1a1-Y13279
    mtDNA: U2e2a1
    Israel Tel Abel Beth Maccah
    I2201, Iron Age, 1011-846 calBCE
    I2201
    mtDNA: X2
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2b2b1a1a2 - CTS6280
    Turkmenistan Gonur Depe ( 3600 yBP - Bronze Age ) Bactria Margiana (BMAC)
    I1781 ( 3550 ± 30 yBP / 3841 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T-M184
    mtDNA: T1a1q
    Israel Tel Megiddo
    Middle-Late Bronze Age, 1971-1278 calBCE
    I4518
    mtDNA: HV2a1
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    Syria Alalakh site
    Middle-Late Bronze Age, 2111-1303 BC
    ALA015
    mtDNA: K1a
    Y-DNA: T1a1a - L208
    Syria Elba site
    Middle Bronze Age I(Eblaite), 2000-1800 BCE
    ETM026
    mtDNA: K1a4
    Y-DNA: T1a1 - L162
    Iran Tepe Hissar C (4100 yBP- Bronze Age) Tepe Hissar Culture
    I2514 ( 3915 ± 25 yBP / 4341 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T1a2a1a-Y13284
    mtDNA: W3b
    I2512 ( 4265 ± 25 yBP / 4846 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T-M184
    mtDNA: HV / HV9
    Morocco Kehf-el-Baroud ( 4950 yBP - Late Neolithic )
    ( 4940 ± 30 yBP ) other: 5565 ± 65 yBP
    KEB.6
    Y-DNA: T1a1a - L162
    mtDNA: K1a4a1
    Russia Ipatovo 3 ( 5400 yBP - Early Bronze Age ) Early Steppe Maykop Culture
    IV3002 ( 5383 ± 64 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T1 -CTS6004 probablyT1a2a-Y8614
    mtDNA: X1'2'3
    Israel Peqi'in Cave ( 6150 yBP - Late Chalcolithic ) 9 Samples !! ! Most ever found in one place and 4th oldest samples
    I1155
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: K1a
    I1160
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: N1a1b
    I1165
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: HV1a’b’c’
    I1166
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: H
    I1170
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: T1a2
    I1172
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: K1a
    I1178
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: I6
    I1180
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: T
    I1187
    Y-DNA: T1a1a1b2 - CTS2214
    mtDNA: U6d
    Peqi'in Cave atDNA notes: Northern origin. They also carry the WHG G allele for Blue eyes at Rs12913832.
    Bulgaria Varna (6500 yBP-Chalcolithic) Varna Culture
    ANI152
    Y-DNA: T-Y3804 (x T1-Y3813)
    mtDNA: U2
    Germany Karsdorf ( 7100yBP - Early Neolithic ) LBK Culture
    I0795
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197
    mtDNA: H1 or H1au1b*
    I0797
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197
    mtDNA: H46b
    Kars537 ( 6958 ± 49 yBP )
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197
    mtDNA: J1c6a
    Bulgaria Malak Preslavets ( 7600yBP - Mesolithic/Early Neolithic ) Criș Culture
    I0700
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197
    mtDNA: T2e
    I1108
    Y-DNA: T1a1a2-Y63197
    mtDNA: T2e
    Jordan 'Ain Ghazal ( 9600 yBP - Early Neolithic ) Late Middle PPNB ( 9573 ± 39 yBP )
    Oldest Haplogroup T sample on record
    I1707
    Y-DNA: T1a - M70
    mtDNA: R0a
    Oldest Haplogroup T sample ever found


    I will get back to you

    seems like you are using the older version of the branches of T

    T1a1a = T1a1

    T1a1b = T1a2

    T1a2a = T1a3

    pity there are 2 different system running for T ydna in the world of testing

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I will get back to you

    seems like you are using the older version of the branches of T

    T1a1a = T1a1

    T1a1b = T1a2

    T1a2a = T1a3

    pity there are 2 different system running for T ydna in the world of testing
    Thanks, yeah.. it's a little confusing .. I looked on isogg and apparently there was a change from 2015 to 2016 for example T1a1a1a (Z709) became T1a1a1b2b

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    MtDNA haplogroup
    H95a

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    North Italian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. T View Post
    Thanks, yeah.. it's a little confusing .. I looked on isogg and apparently there was a change from 2015 to 2016 for example T1a1a1a (Z709) became T1a1a1b2b

    T was called K2 in 2008 and earlier

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    New T1a2-BY60539

    Johann Christoph Gräßer is born in 1750 at Gräfenroda, Thüringen. His father and grandfather were from Holzhausen and Alkersleben
    Mtdna = K1a2b


    Exact same marker as Christopher Kile, 1747 - 1795

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