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    the superiority of bronze against iron is rust,

    from the nails that are found by archaiologists we know that they knew to harden iron, although made it heavy,
    but iron rust easy, and loses his 'cut edge' quicker,
    so an early iron needed to 'stones' to 'sharp' its edges, and did not last long due to rust, and it was very heavy,

    mettals millenium before iron was founded place 'played' also the role of money,
    one of the first money coin was cypriot talanton which had the size of a lamp fleece,
    but from antique gold was consider superior than copper than iron,
    why? I believe it is the resist against rust,

    gold is softer than iron, yet more precious 6 milleniums now,
    why? cause money should have a strong resist in time.

    in ancient Makedonians a month was named Xanthos, due to that month they all brush and sharp their iron weapons,
    consider such thing in early iron mettalurgy,
    yet in areas were they needed hard metal they put iron,
    but they use bronze in daylife in other things
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    Hybris (abuse, opprombium) is born
    Nemesis and punishment follows.

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    Don't know how accurate this article is in terms of timelines. I know that Illyrians and the West Balkans in general were not good with iron until the 8-th Century BC. This is evident in the materials found in tombs; very few iron objects found before 8-th century BC. Their iron industry reached its potential between 8-7 century BC, in the same areas that were famous before for bronze and cooper, namely the areas of Kukesi and Korca. (Kukesi is where E-v13 is probably 40%, btw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamani View Post
    Don't know how accurate this article is in terms of timelines. I know that Illyrians and the West Balkans in general were not good with iron until the 8-th Century BC. This is evident in the materials found in tombs; very few iron objects found before 8-th century BC. Their iron industry reached its potential between 8-7 century BC, in the same areas that were famous before for bronze and cooper, namely the areas of Kukesi and Korca. (Kukesi is where E-v13 is probably 40%, btw)
    The illyrians where the best with steel in east austria (Noricum area) .......it was called noric steel
    It was already in use centuries befor ethe Romans arrived
    có che un pòpoło no 'l defende pi ła só łéngua el xe prónto par èser s'ciavo

    when a people no longer dares to defend its language it is ripe for slavery.

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