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    chill out dude, I'm just playing with you. I don't have grudges with confused kids.

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    [QUOTE=FBS;441888]Wow, fascinating story, you forgot to add pink flying dragons and unicorns.[/QUOΤΕ]

    Νο HE forgot to mention what happened to Δερβιτανη,

    why you attack that village?
    ΟΘΕΝ ΑΙΔΩΣ OY EINAI
    ΑΤΗ ΛΑΜΒΑΝΕΙΝ ΑΥΤΟΙΣ
    ΥΒΡΙΣ ΓΕΝΝΑΤΑΙ
    ΝΕΜΕΣΙΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΙΣΗ ΑΚΟΛΟΥΘΟΥΣΙ ΔΕ

    When there is no shame
    Divine blindness conquers them
    Hybris (abuse, opprombium) is born
    Nemesis and punishment follows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melancon View Post
    What the hell kamani starts flinging mud and now there is a problem to be understood? He cannot bear that there is someone who is more direct, realistic, and with an actual experience and straightforward analysis for this board. I am the only person who is contributing to this post and am staying on-topic and gave my insight and advices. I'm not even breaking any rules, as far as I am concerned. He has passive-aggressively accused me of spreading disinformation before; whilst we were debating in the Illyrian-Albanian post; in which evidence of my theory was backed up with credible sources. Pure jealousy and ego, let him handle his own grudges.
    @ moderators
    Did you look the posts of this person normal and in accordance with the rules of the forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Bardhyl View Post
    @ moderators
    Did you look the posts of this person normal and in accordance with the rules of the forum?
    The member of this forum from United States did not say anything offensive.

    You do not want to hear another opinion.

    Democracy, tolerance, constructive debate, have you heard of it.
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    By the way, you back to your avatar the map of fictional "greater albania" which does not exist (except in chauvinist dreams).

    It is very offense because it covers the existing territory of four states: Greece, FYROM (Macedonia ), Serbia and Montenegro.

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    Europe is a place (yet.) not to visit, the youth became unreasonally ungry and the people generally confused the meaning of derivation with racism.

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    My english is a mess... Hope someone to understand.


    Lebrok's note to Panae. For above reasons try not to write about serious matters or you can look like a racist.
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    Places not to visit in Europe - anywhere in the Balkans. There will be endless bickering about obscure details that are meaningless to anyone not from the Balkans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ΠΑΝΑΞ View Post
    Europe is a place (yet.) not to visit, the youth became unreasonally ungry and the people generally confused the meaning of derivation with racism.

    (me)
    I never read the rules of Eupedia.
    I am very thankfull to meet other persons, other opinions, some maybe friends of sympathy and reasonably cause but definetely brothers and sisters of undeniable True!
    I am guest, i am happy, i am not such clever and maybe not so usefull for science but i am thinker; and walker; (-now running but later i fly to the skies...)
    I dont act fluently use of my Brittonics so i keep the most silent as i can possibly not to disturb further the stupids -which they consider themselves very intelligent. (παναξ is a delightfull exception of course in any case anytime when the need of beauty and truth is justicious right and a public demand! -just to know ...for next time.)


    (Echetlaeus and this Anathema thread)
    Is it anything helpfull to this thread? Allthough it "sounds" promising; as at least informating; -If yes i allready
    placed my opinion on the very top (except my home). -End.


    (bardyl)
    Hi, i have many friends of your people, christians and muslims of your origin -every day survivors, labours, familiars, people of honest and respect.
    please, your waterpistol licking to the floor! - take of your boots when you enter the House! (Eupedia i mean.)


    (@Forum)
    Is it right to make a person (bardyl) such an udeniable offend to an other guested person (παναξ) with this map?
    I have respond several times for this issue. I am lawed by ethos of politeness and not from any rules (except from the law's of democracy which the basis is respect to the person and to all of them as a union.)


    I am more beautifull than the Hungarian stallion and more brave than the Halvanian one.
    what else to know?



    (@ Moderators ?)
    Is it possible to post a naked picture of me wearing army boots with my cream pistol hanging down and pointing bardyl's house? (bardyl's house sounds like ...?) i mean for an avatar like bardyl's which the boy scout point somewhere...
    to California? -cant find my glasses...
    -maybe a picture of my adolph pointing a synagogue? - or a kkk pedophiliacs against couloured children?
    Sound like an idiot? I agree, excuse my anger, It is a sort of dissapointment...


    Maybe i was the only "friend" of Echetlaeus, ( I asked him to make me a "friend" to advice him, after that -E. dissapear...? -what to say i was trying to be helpfull...nice try!)
    so, except our pleasant Moderators which the decission fell mostly in their back to carry.
    I (me, yes me!) ΠΑΝΑΞ humbly, not possible ask but suggest to close this thread for the reason of poisoning the forum and provide a good soil for more hatred more ignorance and fear.


    (@Angela)
    Ok! I had enough with you. Let you know that PIZZA<<ΠΙΤΤΑ ( << = is from )


    _"-When the italian taste the pitta the slivery of their (absolut forgiven and eligitimate gluttony or monsterous greed if you like) mouth covered the -TT and transformed as -TS ,so after that the Pitta became Pi-tsa because every time the slivery was flooding the mouth cave..."
    (Stories from my Gr. Mother- soon available to your local store.)


    My english is a mess... Hope someone to understand.
    Do not worry; it seems a bit understandable. But it takes effort. I was wondering why the grammar was so strange. I thought you were telling a story. But I understand.

    I agree that maybe this thread should be locked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen View Post
    Places not to visit in Europe - anywhere in the Balkans. There will be endless bickering about obscure details that are meaningless to anyone not from the Balkans.
    I have quite a few dear friends from the Croatian islands and I have long had a hankering to take a cruise to the Dalmatian coast. So obviously I didn't use to feel this way, and to be honest I don't even now.

    I refuse to believe that some of these posters are representative of this area of Europe. It is highly unfortunate, however, that so many of our posters from that area present such a terrible image of the people of the Balkans.


    Non si fa il proprio dovere perchè qualcuno ci dica grazie, lo si fa per principio, per se stessi, per la propria dignità. Oriana Fallaci

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    @Αβερδίνε
    You are solid true. Thanks for your confirmation. I agree there is no further reason to discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen View Post
    Places not to visit in Europe - anywhere in the Balkans. There will be endless bickering about obscure details that are meaningless to anyone not from the Balkans.
    I really feel sorry for everyone who feels like this. I myself restrain to badmouth about any country what so ever and especially places that I have never been to. Believe me I travel a lot around the world and I have seen scary places in many countries that are represented here by the members of eupedia, but I have never insulted or spread such hatred or never posted anything about it, and I have seen many of them in European countries or America. After this thread I am seriously considering to never visit eupedia again. I am deeply insulted. I have got used to it by members like Garrik, Ike and Yetos but now this thread is completely unbelievable and I do not take it seriously. Before any one continues to write about Balkans come down here first. Kosovo is full of internationals who say wonderful things about us. The letters sent by Pope to Albania were so beautiful and full of hope that there are still honest and people in touch with reality. So I choose the Popes' wonderful words instead of these hateful posts.

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    Since I mentioned Popes letter here is one of them:

    To His Excellency Edi Rama
    Prime Minister of the Republic of Albania
    With vivid memories of my recent Apostolic Journey to Albania, and particularly of the exquisite courtesy and the warm hospitality which you, and the members of Government and the other Authorities, afforded me during the various stages of my Visit, I once more offer you my heartfelt thanks.I readily reaffirm my esteem for the example which Albania has shown with regard both to the rebirth of the Catholic Church and the peaceful and serene relationships between the different religions. The Albanian people is the most youthful of Europe, and because of its youth it can look to the future with great confidence. This youthfulness also contains the roots for the nation’s authentic spiritual, economic and cultural progress.It is my hope and my cordial good wish that you and your fellow citizens will always advance in peace and prosperity. Upon all of you I invoke God’s blessings. I will continue t pray for you, Mr Prime Minister, for the members of your family, your associates and the entire people of Albania. Please pray for me.
    Fraternally Francis
    From the Vatican, 27 September 2014
    http://www.kryeministria.al/en/newsroom/news/a-thank-you-message-from-pope-francis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I have quite a few dear friends from the Croatian islands and I have long had a hankering to take a cruise to the Dalmatian coast. So obviously I didn't use to feel this way, and to be honest I don't even now.

    I refuse to believe that some of these posters are representative of this area of Europe. It is highly unfortunate, however, that so many of our posters from that area present such a terrible image of the people of the Balkans.
    Actually, lately, from what I have gathered. It seems that the Slovenes and Croats are fairing well in their relations with the Serbs, and their neighbors. Although there is still lots of tension, understandably so.

    What happened to my acquiantance, was not an unusual occurence, and it actually happens a lot in that general area. (Balkans)

    If you go to the Balkans you must be careful of certain people. I am sorry to say this Angela but I find you to be quite naive and sheltered. It is almost like going into a ghetto in the USA and not expecting to get dirty-looks from gangsters. It is not racist or nationalist to say this, it is just the truth. Obviously you are someone who has no connections to people in Law enforcement or in the Military.


    The Balkans is a really neat place to visit, but there ARE lots of thugs and crooks out in the Balkans with their own agendas.

    For the record, I used to have a Croatian (female) acquiantance who now lives in the Netherlands, and she wanted Yugoslavia to reform; but although, even she admitted to me that she still had some ill-feelings against the Serbs.

    Most of you misinterpret my messages and try to make it look like I am deliberately trying to start a flame war; when that is not my intention. You guys are hyping up the Balkans like it is some fairy-tale land, when it does, indeed, have lots of issues. That tourists must especially be aware of.

    I, as a North American, have had actual experience with these people, so I would know. You Angela, and kamani, are just making baseless accusations against me for the most part and are assuming things about the Balkanic region predetermined, that isn't true.

    I admit my information was a little too graphic. But this thread was started by someone who wanted insight into ghettos in Europe and places not to venture into, and I was just contributing that insight for everyone. But since most of you are too immature and irresponsible to acknowledge the real world; I suggest that many of you to stay out of this thread and not comment. Or alternatively, this post will be locked, by a Moderator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBS View Post
    I really feel sorry for everyone who feels like this. I myself restrain to badmouth about any country what so ever and especially places that I have never been to. Believe me I travel a lot around the world and I have seen scary places in many countries that are represented here by the members of eupedia, but I have never insulted or spread such hatred or never posted anything about it, and I have seen many of them in European countries or America. After this thread I am seriously considering to never visit eupedia again. I am deeply insulted. I have got used to it by members like Garrik, Ike and Yetos but now this thread is completely unbelievable and I do not take it seriously. Before any one continues to write about Balkans come down here first. Kosovo is full of internationals who say wonderful things about us. The letters sent by Pope to Albania were so beautiful and full of hope that there are still honest and people in touch with reality. So I choose the Popes' wonderful words instead of these hateful posts.
    It is very ugly in this way you are mentioning the names, as telltale.

    Write whatever you want, if someone bans you.

    Maybe, you do not want to hear different opinion, especially from Greece and Serbia.

    Nobody nationalist or fundamentalist from us, and once you call me chauvinist, you do not even know what that term means.

    Yetos is Greek and atheist, Ike is not Serb how you think, I'm half Serb (and Yugoslav in heart), and now a European, I love the idea of a federal Europe as I loved federal Yugoslavia, this forum is wonderful, someone can learn a lot, and I got a several friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBS View Post
    I really feel sorry for everyone who feels like this. I myself restrain to badmouth about any country what so ever and especially places that I have never been to. Believe me I travel a lot around the world and I have seen scary places in many countries that are represented here by the members of eupedia, but I have never insulted or spread such hatred or never posted anything about it, and I have seen many of them in European countries or America. After this thread I am seriously considering to never visit eupedia again. I am deeply insulted. I have got used to it by members like Garrik, Ike and Yetos but now this thread is completely unbelievable and I do not take it seriously. Before any one continues to write about Balkans come down here first. Kosovo is full of internationals who say wonderful things about us. The letters sent by Pope to Albania were so beautiful and full of hope that there are still honest and people in touch with reality. So I choose the Popes' wonderful words instead of these hateful posts.
    Yet another post where you are externalizing your problems instead of internalizing them. You brought this on yourself by attacking me. You were obviously very offended and appalled to discover my revelation that two Kosovars thugs were killed while staging an ambush against my acquaintance. Let us not pretend to be the victim though; You had the choice whether or not to post.

    Truth is: these two individuals are dead now, and they made a deadly mistake. They should have not been in Serbia, trying to attack innocent people, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBS View Post
    I really feel sorry for everyone who feels like this. I myself restrain to badmouth about any country what so ever and especially places that I have never been to. Believe me I travel a lot around the world and I have seen scary places in many countries that are represented here by the members of eupedia, but I have never insulted or spread such hatred or never posted anything about it, and I have seen many of them in European countries or America. After this thread I am seriously considering to never visit eupedia again. I am deeply insulted. I have got used to it by members like Garrik, Ike and Yetos but now this thread is completely unbelievable and I do not take it seriously. Before any one continues to write about Balkans come down here first. Kosovo is full of internationals who say wonderful things about us. The letters sent by Pope to Albania were so beautiful and full of hope that there are still honest and people in touch with reality. So I choose the Popes' wonderful words instead of these hateful posts.
    Chill out. I was really just commenting on the behavior of some of the Balkan posters on this forum. I do know Canadians of both Serbian and Croatian ancestry, and they generally seemed quite likeable, as long as the two groups aren't in the same room at the same time - I find it interesting that they seem more inclined to carry on tribal feuds here in Canada than Jewish and Arab immigrants, who are usually able to leave their blood feud at the border, which is what this country expects of all immigrants and their descendents. And although I didn't like the few Albanians I've met in real life, I'm going to assume they aren't representative. And I hope that some of the Balkan posters here aren't representative of their part of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melancon View Post
    Yet another post where you are externalizing your problems instead of internalizing them. You brought this on yourself by attacking me. You were obviously very offended and appalled to discover my revelation that two Kosovars thugs were killed while staging an ambush against my acquaintance. Let us not pretend to be the victim though; You had the choice whether or not to post.

    Truth is: these two individuals are dead now, and they made a deadly mistake. They should have not been in Serbia, trying to attack innocent people, anyway.
    It still sounds like a tall tale to me, but there are no doubt places in the Balkans where tourists need to be careful. That's why travel agents can still be quite useful at a time when we can buy our airline and hotel tickets cheaper on line.

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    In some countries should be careful:
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    Bardhyl
    It is more Albanian shame, because the Albanian fans threw drone on the stadium with a map of "greater albania".

    It is very dangerous game with drones in stadiums, Michel Platini from UEFA has disclosed his fears that drones carrying bombs could cause carnage in football matches in the future.

    Platini fears drone bombings in football matches

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/7157/eur...otball-matches

    And Albanian football federation will be punished.

    Of course, it is not good what one smaller number of Serbian fans entered in the ground, although they were provoked with fictional creature map "greater albania" but they shouldn't enter the ground, but Serbian players defended Albanian players and Albanian media did not mention it.

    Serbian footbal federation will be also punished, because entering of funs in the ground.

    Provocation is big, someone can imagine Nazi map on the drone in the some stadium in Israel, it is same.

    "Greater albania " offends the citizens of four countries: Greece, FYROM (Macedonia), Serbia and Montenegro, this creature covers large parts of territory of four states, practical means to declare war against four countries.

    International borders of Albania




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    Fictional creature in the drone, this is not real Albania in recognized international border

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    Respect to Angela, the rest should grow up. I am done with this forum.

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    My humble opinion this thread is loosing all meaning.

    Bickering is pointless.

    The best solution is lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBS View Post
    Respect to Angela, the rest should grow up. I am done with this forum.
    I wasn't going to post on this thread again, as it has been totally destroyed, but I needed to respond to you. Please don't leave the forum, FBS. Your point of view is valuable. I am sure none of the members from outside of the Balkans meant any disrespect to the people of that area in general. There is a difference, I sincerely believe, between the general population in the Balkans and the kind of people from the Balkans who seem to post here, and I speak as someone who knows more than a few Croats, and met more than a few refugees from the Balkan Wars while I was in Italy. I also had the unfortunate experience of visiting Romania under Ceausescu. It was horrifying, but I did not blame the majority of the Romanian people for their conditions; it's always best to try to place yourself in the other person's shoes before you judge them. How much courage would any of us have had in those circumstances?

    It's just that what gets posted on this forum by many Balkan members is unsavory and quite disturbing at times, and does their countries no credit. No one has forgotten what happened there, and the tenor and content of many posts seems to indicate that the animosities still run high, and that many have learned absolutely nothing.

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    Bardhyil
    Do you want see what you did.

    Only one detail after match (do you want more):

    Albanian fanatics attack Greek village

    http://www.newgreektv.com/index.php/...-greek-village

    A Greek village in Albania suffered a spate of attacks as fanatical Albanian ultra-nationalists terrorised villagers, torched cars and smashed storefronts.

    The match between Serbia and Albania in Belgrade for the European Cup 2016 qualifiers was the spark that let loose a fit of nationalistic hysteria and hate mongering aimed at surrounding countries and local minorities, sprinkled with liberal doses of irredentism and frontier revisionism.

    The match that was stopped because an RC aerial vehicle flew over the pitch towing a banner of “greater Albania”, let loose a lot of pent up hatred in Albania.

    Greek demarche to Albania over terrorism of Greek village

    http://en.protothema.gr/greek-demarc...greek-village/


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    Look the Albanian Flag worn.


    Serbian nationalist slogans

    NATO flag burning





    Police opens doors

    Stewards, he is "defending" the Albanian

    People with guns enter the field

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    O Bardhyl
    You love Balkans stupidities.

    Albanian fans burn Serbian flag in Tirana



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    In Zurich, too (do you want more):




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