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    Can someone help me understand my Dodecad results?

    Hi everyone! I'm pretty new to the whole genetic-genealogy thing and I had a couple question, or rather a more general one about using Gedmatch.
    I am a bit confused as to how to read my oracle information. Sorry if this is not the right place to post this - like I said, I'm a newbie!


    Anyway, I ran the Dodecad V3 test and got these results when I clicked on Oracle-4. I'm trying to figure out what this means for me in terms of my eastern European ancestry. I'm trying to figure out exactly what makes up my eastern European ancestry. Romanian and Hungarian tend to show up in almost every test I take on Gedmatch. What does this mean?


    I would really appreciate any help anyone could provide. I just feel so lost.


    Admix Results (sorted):


    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 49.26
    2 Mediterranean 27.24
    3 East_European 11.64
    4 West_Asian 9.26
    5 Northwest_African 1.38




    Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
    12 components mode.


    --------------------------------


    Least-squares method.


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 CEU @ 5.489141
    2 N._European @ 7.291900
    3 Argyll @ 7.550364
    4 Orcadian @ 7.800994
    5 Orkney @ 8.250000
    6 German @ 8.822212
    7 French @ 10.962375
    8 French @ 11.240328
    9 Mixed_Germanic @ 13.545633
    10 Dutch @ 14.841503
    11 Slovenian @ 14.908674
    12 Kent @ 17.163418
    13 British_Isles @ 19.224958
    14 British @ 19.338110
    15 Hungarians @ 19.364630
    16 Cornwall @ 19.914080
    17 Swedish @ 22.346523
    18 Irish @ 22.538654
    19 French_Basque @ 23.157198
    20 Portuguese @ 23.413857


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% N_Italian +50% Swedish @ 4.150940




    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% CEU +25% Cornwall +25% Romanians_14 @ 1.954385




    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 CEU + Cornwall + Orcadian + Romanians_14 @ 1.920141
    2 CEU + Kent + Orcadian + Romanians_14 @ 1.923661
    3 Balkans + British_Isles + French + Argyll @ 1.926024
    4 British + CEU + Orcadian + Romanians_14 @ 1.929869
    5 CEU + Kent + Orkney + Romanians_14 @ 1.935258
    6 Balkans + French + Kent + Argyll @ 1.943717
    7 CEU + CEU + Cornwall + Romanians_14 @ 1.954385
    8 Kent + Orcadian + Orcadian + Romanians_14 @ 1.959733
    9 CEU + Cornwall + Orkney + Romanians_14 @ 1.963090
    10 Balkans + British + French + Argyll @ 1.968033
    11 British + CEU + Orkney + Romanians_14 @ 1.978905
    12 British + CEU + CEU + Romanians_14 @ 1.982814
    13 Kent + Orcadian + Orkney + Romanians_14 @ 1.995631
    14 Balkans + Cornwall + French + Argyll @ 1.997401
    15 British_Isles + CEU + Orcadian + Romanians_14 @ 2.007814
    16 British_Isles + CEU + CEU + Romanians_14 @ 2.020620
    17 Kent + Orkney + Orkney + Romanians_14 @ 2.039511
    18 CEU + Cornwall + Romanians_14 + Argyll @ 2.043356
    19 British_Isles + CEU + Orkney + Romanians_14 @ 2.046039
    20 British + CEU + Romanians_14 + Argyll @ 2.049886




    *************************************


    Just in case it helps, here are my other Dodecad results:


    World 9 Test Oracle-4 Results


    Admix Results (sorted):


    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 70.30
    2 Southern 14.46
    3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 12.96




    Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
    9 components mode.


    --------------------------------


    Least-squares method.


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Hungarians @ 3.086371
    2 Mixed_Germanic @ 3.973518
    3 French @ 4.729035
    4 Dutch @ 4.964489
    5 German @ 5.567881
    6 French @ 6.136600
    7 CEU30 @ 6.198788
    8 Cornwall @ 6.480979
    9 Kent @ 6.616149
    10 British @ 6.816773
    11 British_Isles @ 7.883039
    12 Ukranians @ 8.373895
    13 Argyll @ 8.508513
    14 Irish @ 8.797144
    15 Orcadian @ 9.022368
    16 Orkney @ 9.477574
    17 Polish @ 10.476080
    18 Belorussian @ 12.401111
    19 Cataluna @ 13.067780
    20 Russian_B @ 13.140576


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lithuanian +50% North_Italian @ 0.772427




    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% O_Italian @ 0.630697




    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Swedish + O_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 0.469349
    2 Swedish + O_Italian + Orcadian + Orkney @ 0.519098
    3 German + Swedish + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 0.519474
    4 Norwegian + O_Italian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 0.519549
    5 Irish + Swedish + O_Italian + Orkney @ 0.543948
    6 Irish + German + Swedish + Tuscan @ 0.544324
    7 Swedish + British_Isles + O_Italian + Orcadian @ 0.544349
    8 Irish + Norwegian + O_Italian + Orcadian @ 0.544399
    9 Irish + Swedish + O_Italian + Orcadian @ 0.564886
    10 Irish + Swedish + British_Isles + O_Italian @ 0.569199
    11 Irish + Swedish + Tuscan + CEU30 @ 0.569299
    12 Swedish + Tuscan + Cornwall + Argyll @ 0.569349
    13 Swedish + Tuscan + CEU30 + Argyll @ 0.569449
    14 German + Swedish + TSI30 + Argyll @ 0.569474
    15 French + Swedish + Bulgarian + Orcadian @ 0.587687
    16 Swedish + British_Isles + O_Italian + Orkney @ 0.594098
    17 Irish + Norwegian + O_Italian + Orkney @ 0.594148
    18 Norwegian + O_Italian + Orkney + Argyll @ 0.594298
    19 Irish + French + Swedish + Bulgarian @ 0.599659
    20 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Orcadian + Cataluna @ 0.616972


    K7-B Test Oracle-4 Results


    Admix Results (sorted):


    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 70.80
    2 Southern 15.12
    3 West_Asian 12.61




    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
    7 components mode.


    --------------------------------


    Least-squares method.


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Hungarians @ 2.653286
    2 Mixed_Germanic @ 4.584156
    3 German @ 5.121539
    4 French @ 5.475845
    5 Cornwall @ 5.644739
    6 French @ 6.005655
    7 CEU30 @ 6.273212
    8 Dutch @ 6.307850
    9 Kent @ 6.384605
    10 English @ 6.851571
    11 British @ 8.294640
    12 British_Isles @ 8.520178
    13 Irish @ 8.568786
    14 Ukranians @ 8.700620
    15 Argyll @ 8.761935
    16 Orcadian @ 9.079863
    17 Mixed_Slav @ 9.769267
    18 Orkney @ 9.814892
    19 Polish @ 11.556197
    20 Norwegian @ 12.658312


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lithuanians +50% North_Italian @ 0.987924




    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% CEU30 +25% Mixed_Slav +25% N_Italian @ 0.000000




    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Argyll + Belorussian + Hungarians + North_Italian @ 0.000000
    2 Argyll + Bulgarian + Cataluna + Lithuanians @ 0.000000
    3 Argyll + Bulgarians + French + Norwegian @ 0.000000
    4 Argyll + C_Italian + Norwegian + Swedish @ 0.000000
    5 Argyll + Cornwall + N_Italian + Ukranians @ 0.000000
    6 Argyll + Dutch + North_Italian + Ukranians @ 0.000000
    7 Argyll + French + Norwegian + Romanians @ 0.000000
    8 Argyll + French + Norwegian + Romanians @ 0.000000
    9 Argyll + German + Mixed_Slav + North_Italian @ 0.000000
    10 Argyll + German + North_Italian + Ukranians @ 0.000000
    11 Argyll + German + Norwegian + O_Italian @ 0.000000
    12 Argyll + Lithuanians + Romanians + Spaniards @ 0.000000
    13 Argyll + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Slav + North_Italian @ 0.000000
    14 Belorussian + British + British + Tuscan @ 0.000000
    15 Belorussian + British + Hungarians + N_Italian @ 0.000000
    16 Belorussian + British + Irish + Tuscan @ 0.000000
    17 Belorussian + British + Kent + O_Italian @ 0.000000
    18 Belorussian + British_Isles + Hungarians + N_Italian @ 0.000000
    19 Belorussian + Hungarians + Irish + North_Italian @ 0.000000
    20 Belorussian + Hungarians + North_Italian + Orcadian @ 0.000000






    K12B-4 Test Oracle -4 Results (no Romanian here, but Hungarian, as usual)


    Admix Results (sorted):


    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 40.85
    2 Atlantic_Med 38.35
    3 Caucasus 9.55
    4 Gedrosia 9.08




    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
    12 components mode.


    --------------------------------


    Least-squares method.


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mixed_Germanic @ 4.991512
    2 Dutch @ 6.893645
    3 French @ 7.385003
    4 Kent @ 7.755921
    5 French @ 7.920487
    6 CEU30 @ 8.191336
    7 English @ 8.355354
    8 German @ 9.386335
    9 British_Isles @ 9.825450
    10 Cornwall @ 9.874163
    11 British @ 10.410616
    12 Argyll @ 11.257118
    13 Irish @ 11.610061
    14 Orcadian @ 11.845013
    15 Orkney @ 11.954668
    16 Hungarians @ 16.157070
    17 Norwegian @ 16.982864
    18 Swedish @ 18.875645
    19 Cataluna @ 21.183664
    20 Galicia @ 21.538187


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% French +50% German @ 2.813939




    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% British +25% Bulgarians +25% Kent @ 1.550286




    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Bulgarians + Cornwall + Cornwall + Kent @ 1.283329
    2 Bulgarians + CEU30 + Cornwall + Cornwall @ 1.297654
    3 Bulgarians + Cornwall + Cornwall + English @ 1.301852
    4 Bulgarian + Cornwall + Cornwall + Kent @ 1.364783
    5 British + Bulgarians + Cornwall + Kent @ 1.386409
    6 Bulgarian + CEU30 + Cornwall + Cornwall @ 1.395193
    7 Bulgarian + Cornwall + Cornwall + English @ 1.404187
    8 British + Bulgarians + CEU30 + Cornwall @ 1.430751
    9 Bulgarians + Cornwall + Cornwall + Cornwall @ 1.434634
    10 British + Bulgarians + Cornwall + English @ 1.456327
    11 British + Bulgarians + Cornwall + Cornwall @ 1.493540
    12 British + Bulgarian + Cornwall + Kent @ 1.509821
    13 Bulgarian + Cornwall + Cornwall + Cornwall @ 1.520416
    14 Argyll + Bulgarians + Cornwall + Cornwall @ 1.521965
    15 Bulgarians + Cornwall + Kent + Kent @ 1.526418
    16 Bulgarians + Cornwall + Irish + Kent @ 1.537240
    17 British + British + Bulgarians + Kent @ 1.550286
    18 Argyll + Bulgarians + Cornwall + Kent @ 1.552112
    19 British + Bulgarian + CEU30 + Cornwall @ 1.563494
    20 Argyll + Mixed_Germanic + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 1.563760








    Also, is there a good test to take to analyse my west Asian ancestry? AncestryDNA picked up some Caucasian ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    No te ha hecho caso nadie, pobre.
    Hello Carlos.
    Well, I recomend that he abandon the DODECAD project and use the following GEDmach calcuculators of MDLP and Eurogenes projects:

    MDLP K16 Modern, Eurogenes K13 or Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15.
    Saludos desde Brasil.
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    [CITA = Duarte; 565499] Hola Carlos.
    Bueno, le recomiendo que abandone el proyecto DODECAD y utilice los siguientes calculadores GEDmach de los proyectos MDLP y Eurogenes:

    MDLP K16 Modern, Eurogenes K13 o Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15.
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    I have published my results, you will see them and you will tell me what you think. regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    [CITA = Duarte; 565499] Hola Carlos.
    Bueno, le recomiendo que abandone el proyecto DODECAD y utilice los siguientes calculadores GEDmach de los proyectos MDLP y Eurogenes:

    MDLP K16 Modern, Eurogenes K13 o Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15.
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    I have published my results, you will see them and you will tell me what you think. regards
    Hello Carlos,
    Its ethnicity is typically Iberian and you should not worry too much about the 43% share of western and central Europe.


    Remember that part of Andalusia was occupied by the Swabians, mainly to the west, that, later, were replaced by the Visigoths and Andalusia was part of Kingdom of Visigoths until Arab invasion of the Iberian Peninsula. Before the consolidation of the Kingdom of the Visigoths, much of what is the coast of Andalusia was part of the Byzantine Empire


    The Swabians originated from the region between the Elbe and Oder rivers in present-day Germany. The Goths were a Germanic people originating from the southern regions of Scandinavia and the Visigoths were one of two branches in which the Goths were divided. Nothing abnormal that you have inherited a sizable percentage of germanic DNA (43%). Genes mingle at random. Just as you have inherited much DNA from the Germanic invaders, other relatives of you may have inherited much less. Natural.


    Simply put, for me, you are 100% Iberian, ethnically divided as follows:
    41% of the Iberian natives;
    43% of Germanic invaders (Suevos, Goths and Visigoths and, perhaps, even Vandals);
    10% of Byzantine origin (southeast of europe)
    4% Berber (ancient - 6000 years ago - and medieval - 8th century after Christ);
    2% background noise.
    Warm greetings.
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