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    Quote Originally Posted by last-resort View Post
    BEFORE I began looking up youtube.com music videos for Greek music, the only 'Albanians' I knew of were John Belushi and his brother, Jim Belushi, both US comedians, and Orthodox Christians. AFTER I began looking up youtube.com music videos for Greek music, the only 'Albanians' I WANT to know of are John Belushi and his brother, Jim Belushi, both US comedians, and Orthodox Christians. Why? Because of the unnecessary comments made in the youtube.com videos.

    It is not my position to make broad generalizations about my heritage, but I would bet that other than for Greeks living in Albania, and for Orthodox Christians living there, most Greeks don't give a tinker's damn about Albania, Albanian peoples, Albanian heritage, Albanian culture, Albanian history, Albanian music, Albanian arts, Albanian science, etc. If Enver Halil Hoxha is your hero, then God (or not) bless you. For some reason, you and a few others hate Greeks. That is perfectly normal in my experience. Hate away! Revel in in your hate! Glory in your hate! Be proud of your hate of Greeks! And in your original posts, tell all about the glories of Albania, Albanian peoples, Albanian heritage, Albanian culture, Albanian history, Albanian music, Albanian arts, Albanian science, etc. Just don't shit up the Greek sites.

    Yes, Greeks, Greece, Hellas, Hellenic, Hellenistic, are big deals. There is no Europe without Greece (contrary to a CBS TV foreign affairs editor - South African born). Racism is everywhere. Plenty of other 'isms' that distort truth. Getting at truth is important to fair minded people. The Pelop study is an effort in that direction. As such it deserves serious attention. It got less than that in significant ways. Yes, there is whole lot of crap that must be waded through to get to the serious comments.

    My concern is that in what is purported to be the highest level of open access dialog on genetics, and such, useless commentary, discredited authors and bogus 'authorities', and so forth, are permitted to be repetitively allowed in the posts to the point that any one with a serious interest in learning - comparing and contrasting scholarship - are put off by the endless tirade of pointless materials.
    I don`t know where you see the hate in my post against the greeks. What i have noticed in the previous post, are your offensive words against Albanians and other ethnic groups. Nobody have any kind of sympathy for Enver Hoxha and communism. The problem here is not Enver Hoxha. The problem is this your idiot chauvinist ideology called MegaliIdea. Look, people have no problem if you greeks want to live in a fantasy world, dreaming about the glories of the past. The problem is when you, after a brainwashing proccess, convinced in all BS that you learn and discuss in your country and in your forums, want to give an international passport to this your chauvinistic ideology. In this moment, other people start to explain to you that this world it`s a little bit different from your dream.In my opinion,this ridiculous study is just a trial against everyone who rise any doubt against this your dream. Everyone who don`t accept as real this your dream, is identified as a idiot or, like the poor old Fallmerayer, a "blood-dripping Greek-eater". Unfortunatelly, the position of the mod in this discussion about this charade that you call a study, was not correct. In this so-called study, Fallmerayer is mentioned 17 times. Many people here don`t know what exactly this scholar said, because unfortunately the moderator of this discussion didn`t allowed this. Never heard something like this.
    I was searching about an author, Richard Clogg and his A concise History of Greece.
    There is something interesting in the introduction:
    Early Greek nationalists looked for inspiration exclusively to the classical past. When, in the1830s, the Austrian historian J. P.Fallmerayer cast doubt on one of the founding precepts of modern Greek nationalism, namely that the modern Greeks are the lineal descendants of the ancient, he aroused outrage among the intelligentsia of the fledgeling state. The first American minister to the independent state, Charles Tuckerman, an acute observer of mid-nineteenth-century Greek society, observed that the quickest way to reduce an Athenian professor to apoplexy was to mention the name of Fallmerayer.
    http://catdir.loc.gov/catdir/samples...2002725551.pdf
    Now, i am a very curious person. Who is this Charles Tuckerman, and what exactly he had said?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_K._Tuckerman
    From the wiki page, we learn that this gentleman is a friend of greeks. He is the author of this book:
    https://archive.org/details/greeksoftoday00tuck
    The Greeks of to-day
    In the page 229-330 of this book you can read:




    Wake up dude. Life is beautiful even if you are not a descendant of Ajax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    ..... Wake up dude. Life is beautiful even if you are not a descendant of Ajax.
    I've figured it out! Before I give you my revelation, I'll ask you why you are obsessed about an ethnic group not your own? It is a rhetorical question. If the ancient Greeks no longer exist, what is that to 'Albanians'? It is 'Albanians' in quotes for a reason.

    Here's my revelation: You, and those like you, do not hate Greeks. You hate yourself! That is it. You hate the fact that in spite of having a nearly autochthonous presence in the Balkans, the Albanian claim to fame is largely serving as lackeys and mercenaries to whichever Ottoman pasha paid more, an instance or two of being a regional pasha, and the Belushi brothers. (Brother John was a genius.) No world renowned philosophy, no world renowned literature, no enlightened democracy, no pace-setting mathematics, no colonization, no lingua franca in the eastern world, no societal takeover of the Roman world, no language of the Good News. Not for the Albanians. For the Albanians, it is just lackeys, mercenaries, a regional pasha or two, and the Belushi brothers. And the first three, those Albanians gave up their Christian faith. Oh, yeah, Enver Halil Hoxha is yours. A lot to be proud of if one's expectations are very low. I would say that if you are a southern Albanian there is a good chance you are not descended from some Albanian mythic hero, but what do you know? I do not know of any, nor do I care to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by last-resort View Post
    I've figured it out! Before I give you my revelation, I'll ask you why you are obsessed about an ethnic group not your own? It is a rhetorical question. If the ancient Greeks no longer exist, what is that to 'Albanians'? It is 'Albanians' in quotes for a reason.

    Here's my revelation: You, and those like you, do not hate Greeks. You hate yourself! That is it. You hate the fact that in spite of having a nearly autochthonous presence in the Balkans, the Albanian claim to fame is largely serving as lackeys and mercenaries to whichever Ottoman pasha paid more, an instance or two of being a regional pasha, and the Belushi brothers. (Brother John was a genius.) No world renowned philosophy, no world renowned literature, no enlightened democracy, no pace-setting mathematics, no colonization, no lingua franca in the eastern world, no societal takeover of the Roman world, no language of the Good News. Not for the Albanians. For the Albanians, it is just lackeys, mercenaries, a regional pasha or two, and the Belushi brothers. And the first three, those Albanians gave up their Christian faith. Oh, yeah, Enver Halil Hoxha is yours. A lot to be proud of if ones expectations are very low. I would say that if you are a southern Albanian there is a good chance you are not descended from some Albanian mythic hero, but what do you know? i do not know of any, nor do I care to know.
    Excuse me, but you accuse others for hate and your posts are full of hate against your neighbors, Albanians and Macedonians.
    Let me give you an advice before suffering some stroke of apoplexy. Take a plastic sword, go in front of the mirror and tell to yourself: "I am a greek. I am direct descendant of one of the members of Sacred Band of Thebes, who fought like lion against the barbarians." I am sure you will feel better after this and will also help you to believe that you are a pure greek.
    P. S.
    Why you insist so much with this, Enver Halil Hoxha? What's the point? For example your last president Karolos Papoulias was the son of greek general Gregorios Papoulias. This greek Gregorios was the son of an Albanian muslim named Suleiman. And this muslim Albanian Suleiman was the son of Tahir Papoulias, an Albanian officer of the Ottoman army killed by a "greek" heroe named Marko Boçari.
    Don't forget the sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    Excuse me, but you accuse others for hate and your posts are full of hate against your neighbors, Albanians and Macedonians.
    Let me give you an advice before suffering some stroke of apoplexy. Take a plastic sword, go in front of the mirror and tell to yourself: "I am a greek. I am direct descendant of one of the members of Sacred Band of Thebes, who fought like lion against the barbarians." I am sure you will feel better after this and will also help you to believe that you are a pure greek.
    P. S.
    Why you insist so much with this, Enver Halil Hoxha? What's the point? For example your last president Karolos Papoulias was the son of greek general Gregorios Papoulias. This greek Gregorios was the son of an Albanian muslim named Suleiman. And this muslim Albanian Suleiman was the son of Tahir Papoulias, an Albanian officer of the Ottoman army killed by a "greek" heroe named Marko Boçari.
    Don't forget the sword.
    Oh man

    plz,
    enough with that,
    except if you are a member of Golden Dawn party,
    even Χρυση αυγη does spend about that any more,

    once a muslim you can not leave Islam, and you know it,
    ΟΘΕΝ ΑΙΔΩΣ OY EINAI
    ΑΤΗ ΛΑΜΒΑΝΕΙΝ ΑΥΤΟΙΣ
    ΥΒΡΙΣ ΓΕΝΝΑΤΑΙ
    ΝΕΜΕΣΙΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΙΣΗ ΑΚΟΛΟΥΘΟΥΣΙ ΔΕ

    When there is no shame
    Divine blindness conquers them
    Hybris (abuse, opprombium) is born
    Nemesis and punishment follows.

    Εχε υπομονη Ηρωα
    Η τιμωρια δεν αργει.

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    Albanians go back to whichever religion they like or simply decide to be a nonbeliever or convert to something like protestantism or Bahai a or jedi. I have my close cousins that have gone back to catholicism, i have moderate musilm cousins and atheists. No one gives a f**k what religion you are in our families. And than there are those who are bigoted and extreme in their beliefes like in any other nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    once a muslim you can not leave Islam, and you know it,
    Is it some kind of joke ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Oh man

    plz,
    enough with that,
    except if you are a member of Golden Dawn party,
    even Χρυση αυγη does spend about that any more,

    once a muslim you can not leave Islam, and you know it,
    Once Christian you can't leave christianity, because you will burn in hell.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boreas View Post
    Is it some kind of joke ???


    death penalty even today at many countries >20

    while at 1900 was a religious state law all islamic world.

    plz do not force me for names,

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetos View Post
    death penalty even today at many countries >20

    while at 1900 was a religious state law all islamic world.

    Plz do not force me for names,
    gave me a name of a balkan country, oohh sorry you can't because there is no

    Welcome to Balkan section in Eupedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boreas View Post
    gave me a name of a balkan country, oohh sorry you can't because there is no

    Welcome to Balkan section in Eupedia

    I sent it to you private.

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    she is on the lose,
    she is coming to Aimos peninsula
    her colour is amber



    only for those who know balkanic history

    I am too old, for such crap,
    but I would not say no to hold it once again
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    Interview with Theodoros Pangalos.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HaXtQph0ZGw

    This an interview of Theodoros Pangalos (politician).
    Unfortunately the interview is in Greek with subtitles in Albanian. Here is the text of the interview in English with Gg translation:

    I went to Albania, with the help of Archbishop Anastasios of Tirana, and we made a show with Greek and Albanian music. There was great success. There I met different people, I met, for example, the President, who had invited me. I met and the Prime Minister and we talked head to head for a long time. He tried to persuade me of his sincerity, of his love for Greece, and of the need for further rapprochement between the two countries.

    I have the impression that we did not do what we should do for Albania! There are no obstacles with Albania, it is not like the Skopje issue, which we can not even mention. We can talk to Albanians and prepare a package of things Rama needs and see this issue of relationship with Albania. I do not think the Greek people? (Perhaps Albanian!) in these moments would support any plan, though crazy, of course, exist in any country, something that has to do with Greater Albania that includes Epirus and Thessaly as some say. Of course there are such people but they are completely separate. Majority of them ask for good relations with Greece in which they come and go. Remember that almost 800,000 Albanians live in Greece and in the last two years have been crowned about 50,000 mixed marriages.

    I ask that we have to play some role, and that role should play the government.

    We must first get rid of the old myths, like our brotherhood with the Serbs. Serbs are neither our brothers nor nothing, they are ordinary people who have a state. This state sometimes does good things and sometimes wrong things. They have done and designed bleeding. They have always wanted Kavala, which was a pretext to justify their emergence in the Mediterranean. So we do not need to have such ideas. It is good to have good relations with the Serbs, and to play with Crvena Zvezda now that we got the championship with Olympiakos, that is, just so!

    How else would it be to avoid recognizing Kosovo? Something for Kosovo's recognition work: Kosovo has 80% Albanians and 20% Serbs! It is natural that Serbs can not govern !!! Albanians will govern! This is the will of the people and we like it or not, it does not matter. On the other hand Albanians have resolved this issue and with NATO membership. That is why we have to make the recognition of Kosovo as it is and in parallel to deal with Albanians for all other issues because this is a major topic. And if we move in this direction, and the Slav speakers of the Republic of Skopje will understand that it is not fair to deal with names like Alexander the Great or Bucefail. And if we refer to that story, we are probably talking about a time when neither Greeks, nor Albanians, nor less Slavs, and all this talk is silly! And if anyone could claim to be the ancestor of Alexander the Great, these are Albanians because his mother, Olimpia was an Illyrian! From there she knew the medicines and poisons. And when Philip made children with a young girl and threatened Alexander's legacy, Olimpia took off her husband.

    Interviewer: What we often do not consider to Greeks is how close we are to the Balkan developments, we have a little distorted the prospect.

    Thedoros Pangalos: Yes, absolutely. I think it's a complex matter ... say, for example, "una faccia, una razza" for Italians with whom we have absolutely no connection, no common background, no civilization no connection! "One face, one race" we are with Albanians, with the Skopians, with these!

    Interviewer: We do not like this, that we want to be European.

    Theodoros Pangalos: We do not like it but ... and we have this connection with the Turks! There are millions of Greek girls who have lost identity and religion because the Turks snatched them violently. And one of the biggest sultanas of Turkey was from Qefalonia, I think ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    never arque with stupid people
    (as Pagkalos)

    warm winter is coming.
    Whoa, slow down guys. I don't know about others from Celto-Germanic decent, but I feel like I've often been caught in the crossfire. Do you know the history behind these Balkan disagreements? Maybe we can work things out and make amends when nessesary. ^_^

    I'm honestly fascinated yet confused at the same time and this might be a good opportunity to learn bits of history not taught by American schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight View Post
    Do you know the history behind these Balkan disagreements?
    This is a topic of another endless fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boreas View Post
    This is a topic of another endless fight.
    I'm not interested in a brawl so if that's the case, please feel free to PM me about it. ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    she is on the lose,
    she is coming to Aimos peninsula
    her colour is amber



    only for those who know balkanic history

    I am too old, for such crap,
    but I would not say no to hold it once again
    my 'precious' Belgian FN para 7.62
    (said 'Bilbo Baggins')
    before he moved to West
    still remember its 2 ** SN and GR AN
    Yetos, i like so much your ainigmatic style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    never arque with stupid people
    (as Pagkalos)

    warm winter is coming.
    I don't think Pangalos is a stupid person. He is an important politician in your country, with a long career. I invite you to ignore stupid articles of "The Anonymous of Wikipedia", or pseudo-scientific genetic papers prepared by your "scholars", the chauvinistic discussions in the forums of your country or lunatic individuals like this so-called prophet:
    "Prophecies" of Greek priest, Elder Paisioss

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    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    I don't think Pangalos is a stupid person. He is an important politician in your country, with a long career. I invite you to ignore stupid articles of "The Anonymous of Wikipedia", or pseudo-scientific genetic papers prepared by your "scholars", the chauvinistic discussions in the forums of your country or lunatic individuals like this so-called prophet:
    "Prophecies" of Greek priest, Elder Paisioss

    Pagkalos is a stupid, period, ask any Greek.
    he was elected and pushed by foreign forces not by vote,
    everybody laughs with him at Greece,
    even the members of his party,
    the man is so fat that he farts infront TV.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z32lxf4H5k4
    min 0:25 and after

    Greeks always had prophets from the begin of history,
    we had oracles, druids, sibylles, diviners, clairvoyants, saints, prophets etc,
    so anorther one, or another one more, is nothing special,







    the last is at Capella Sistina,

    besides neo-pagans have our own,
    like the'Arizona Vision'.
    have you ever heard of it?

    Try to understand it,
    WE ARE NOT THE OBEYING CHILD ANYMORE,
    AND THESE WARS NORTH OF US ARE NOT OUR WARS,

    PS
    in Greece where you also live,
    recently thousands foreign agents came,
    but is not our war, so will NOT participate,
    Go make your own war,

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    Once Christian you can't leave christianity, because you will burn in hell.
    This is true, but only certain Christian cults and sects practice active shunning (or worse) in THIS world -- the Amish as a well known example, like Muhammadans do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Pagkalos is a stupid, period, ask any Greek.
    he was elected and pushed by foreign forces not by vote,
    everybody laughs with him at Greece,
    even the members of his party,
    the man is so fat that he farts infront TV.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z32lxf4H5k4
    min 0:25 and after

    Greeks always had prophets from the begin of history,
    we had oracles, druids, sibylles, diviners, clairvoyants, saints, prophets etc,
    so anorther one, or another one more, is nothing special,







    the last is at Capella Sistina,

    besides neo-pagans have our own,
    like the'Arizona Vision'.
    have you ever heard of it?

    Try to understand it,
    WE ARE NOT THE OBEYING CHILD ANYMORE,
    AND THESE WARS NORTH OF US ARE NOT OUR WARS,

    PS
    in Greece where you also live,
    recently thousands foreign agents came,
    but is not our war, so will NOT participate,
    Go make your own war,
    I will not comment the ainigmatic part of your post. I want to say only that i don`t live in Greece.

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    yup

    the amber Fox 2 is here,

    surely she will show her face after the 12 of June,

    yet something strange happened today at the big congress of Balkanic and Black sea countries
    that takes place at Con/polis or Instabul today

    some photos from the congress







    only for those who know Balkans

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    Funny isn't it?

    A new casus beli against Greece
    this time from Albanian Rama (goverment head)
    after 9 years of signing an international treaty.
    now Rama puts casus beli on the treaty signed, with international laws,

    so after the casus beli from Turkey against Greece on international sea laws,
    (6 to 12 miles) that if Greece declares the zone to 12 miles as are all the international laws,
    war is upon,
    after the nosence Casus Beli against Cyprus on sea south of Cyprus towards Egypt
    now a new casus beli is on the lose in Balkans,

    the 'apple' of Paris is field No 2


    Albania claims that belongs to her zone,
    although by international laws and the treaty among 2 countries before 9 years recognised also by Italy
    it is clearly the half among Greece and Italy sea limits,



    Long Live AIMOS PENINSULA,
    or as the Roman call us, VULCANIA

    100 years Balkan wars time to make new ones,

    considering the Amber fox2
    and Leviathan case of Cyprus
    well




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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Funny isn't it?

    A new casus beli against Greece
    this time from Albanian Rama (goverment head)
    after 9 years of signing an international treaty.
    now Rama puts casus beli on the treaty signed, with international laws,

    so after the casus beli from Turkey against Greece on international sea laws,
    (6 to 12 miles) that if Greece declares the zone to 12 miles as are all the international laws,
    war is upon,
    after the nosence Casus Beli against Cyprus on sea south of Cyprus towards Egypt
    now a new casus beli is on the lose in Balkans,

    the 'apple' of Paris is field No 2


    Albania claims that belongs to her zone,
    although by international laws and the treaty among 2 countries before 9 years recognised also by Italy
    it is clearly the half among Greece and Italy sea limits,



    Long Live AIMOS PENINSULA,
    or as the Roman call us, VULCANIA

    100 years Balkan wars time to make new ones,

    considering the Amber fox2
    and Leviathan case of Cyprus
    well



    Yetos, why is so difficult for you to be serious and credible in a discussion?

    D E C I S I O N
    “IN THE NAME OF THE REPUBLIC OF ALBANIA”
    The Constitutional Court of the Republic of Albania, consisting of:
    Vladimir Kristo, Chairman of the Constitutional Court
    Fehmi Abdiu, Member of “ “
    Kujtim Puto, Member of “ “
    Petrit Plloçi, Member of “ “
    Vitore Tusha, Member of “ “
    Sokol Berberi, Member of “ “
    Sokol Sadushi, Member of “ “
    Admir Thanza, Member of “ “
    Xhezair Zaganjori, Member of “ “
    with secretary Blerina Çinari took under examination in open judicial session on 8 December
    2009 the case with Act no. 37/24, pertaining to:
    A P P E L L A N T: SOCIALIST PARTY OF ALBANIA, represented by Messrs. Saimir
    Tahiri, Damian Gjiknuri and Myslym Pashaj, with authorisation.

    INTERESTED SUBJECTS:
    THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC, absent.
    THE ASSEMBLY OF THE REPUBLIC OF ALBANIA,
    represented by Mr. Lulëzim Lelçaj, with authorisation.
    THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS, represented by Ms. Marsida
    Xhaferllari, with authorisation.
    THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS, represented by Ms.
    Ledia Hysi, with authorisation.
    THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE, represented by Vice Admiral
    Kristaq Gërveni, Mr. Rezart Tërshana and Ms. Miranda Zeka, with
    authorisation.
    2
    OBJECT: The examination of the compatibility with the Constitution of
    Albania of the Agreement between the Hellenic Republic and the
    Republic of Albania "On the delimitation of their respective
    continental shelf areas and other maritime zones to which they are
    entitled under international law."
    LEGAL BASIC: Articles 131 letter “b”, 134 letter “f” of the Constitution of the
    Republic of Albania; article 52 of law no. 8577 dated 10 February
    2000 “On the organisation and functioning of the Constitutional Court
    of the Republic of Albania”.
    ................

    D E C I D E D:
    - The declaration of the agreement entered into between the Hellenic Republic and
    the Republic of Albania "On the delimitation of their respective continental shelf areas and
    other maritime zones to which they are entitled under international law” as incompatible with
    articles 3, 4, 7 and 92/ë of the Constitution.
    - This decision is conclusive, final and enters into force on the date of publication in
    the Official Journal.
    No. 37/24 of the Basic Register
    Decision No. 15
    Tirana, 15 April 2010
    M E M B E R M E M B E R C H A I R M A N
    /Kujtim Puto/ (s) /Fehmi Abdiu/ (s) /Vladimir Kristo/ (s)
    M E M B E R M E M B E R M E M B E R
    /Sokol Sadushi/ (s) /Vitore Tusha/ (s) /Petrit Plloçi/ (s)

    M E M B E R M E M B E R M E M B E R
    /Xhezair Zaganjori/ (s) /Admir Thanza/ (s) /Sokol Berberi/ (s)
    Identity with the original certified
    GENERAL SECRETARY
    Kujtim OSMANI

    Here you have the link:

    https://www.google.al/url?sa=t&sourc...Mk4k_5y-EG03ug

    Do you know what is funny in this story? That according to Greece the channel of Otranto is no more a channel connect Italy with Albania, but a channel that connects Italy from one side and Greece and Albania from the other side.
    And since you remembered the Balcan Wars, you have to know that after the Balkan Wars there was the WWI and the results in greek history is know with a word Catastrophi. Even Venisellos, the most prominent supporter of the chauvunist ideology Megali Idea, at the end considered this an bad idea.

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