It is social periphery, and these people are not from Serbia.
And you're right, the nation is outdated, it is construct of 19th century.
What today is actual are civilizations, as Samuel Huntington argued.
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It is social periphery, and these people are not from Serbia.
And you're right, the nation is outdated, it is construct of 19th century.
What today is actual are civilizations, as Samuel Huntington argued.
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I'm just surprised that in this time and age there are people who still believe in being special race or nation, chosen and protected by God, worthy of dominating others, etc.
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Are you talking about Jews?
Everywhere is possible to find individuals who are trying to behave like this.
But, unfortunately, there is system which makes such behavior.
Islamic Supremacism
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2008/12/islamic-supremacism.html
ISLAMIC SUPREMACISM is the belief that Islam is superior to other religions, cultures, and governmental systems, and the belief that Islam's superiority entitles Muslims to dominate, control, and rule non-Muslims.
Islam is a supremacist religion. The Hadith and Qur'an command every Muslim to strive until Islam dominates all other religions. The Qur'an says very clearly that the only legitimate form of government is Allah's. According to mainstream, well-established Islamic teachings, the goal of Islam is to make the whole world submit to the law of Allah (Shari'a).
Our actual challenge is Islamic Supremacism
https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2015/12/28/our-actual-challenge-is-islamic-supremacism/
From Socialist Entitlement to Islamic Supremacism: How the West is Being Undone
http://eaglerising.com/35582/from-s...mic-supremacism-how-the-west-is-being-undone/
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Today Islamic supremacism is key problem. But what is important now problem is recognized as such.
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Individuals? Really? Let see what these individuals have made:
When we talk about Serbs during the years 1991-1994 in Croatia we have to know that Serbs have been doing the same exact things as sincethe beginning of their history! They were systematically destroying all Catholic churches they could and most of them were vandalized. They even mutilated statues of saints inside the churches and cut their hands off, mutilating their faces, and worse.. Every gunner in JNA (Jugoslav peoples army) which was lead by Serbs had a Catholic church tower as their primary target!
Destroying Catholic churches would foreshadow exile of Catholics and building of Orthodox church on ruins of Catholic ones by tradition. You must also ask yourself why is there no Serbian Muslim or Serbian Catholic since they would be considered outcasts and would never be accepted by other Serbs.
And the people who are best to talk about this topic are definitely Croatian Franciscans order, known as Franjevci! Franciscans are the largest religious order in the Roman Catholic church.
Francians in Croatia were always first on line when Croats needed blessing before going in battle against these Orthodox hordes but also the last from Catholic priests/preachers to leave the devastated areas witnessing upcoming horror.
Here i will add one list that is made by Croatian Franciscan order from Dalmatian province as it stands on their official web site. It is 122 churches listed with their name and location with short description of what happened to them. It is only one part of Croatian province so there were many more destroyed churches besides these 122 on this list. In many descriptions you will see they were all looted, even looted graveyards and then sodomized. Entirely destroyed Croatian cities like Vukovar, or Dubrovnik that i have mentioned in this thread.
http://www.franjevci-split.hr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=226&Itemid=1
LIST OF CROATIAN RELIGIOUS OBJECT THAT SERBIAN AGGRESSOR
In the occupied part of the province has collapsed to the ground or damaged
Hrvace
1. Parish curch hit with granades and devastated presbytery.
2. Parish house hit with granade fragments.
Potkravlje
3. Parish church of Saint Philip and Saint James in Potkravlje hit with granades
4. Church of Name of the Christ in Satrić, burned and statues mutilated.
5. Church of St Joseph in Maljkovo set on fire.
6. Chapel of St Pascal (Paškala) toghether with parish house set on fire, inventar was destroyed.
7. Parish house burned.
Vrlika
8. Parish church of Our Lady of the Rosary, devastated and looted. Bronce statue of Franciscan Filip Grabovac was stolen.
9. Church of St Salvation (Sveti Spas) in Ježević destroyed by explosive mining.
10. Church of St Jure in Maovice devastated.
11. Churck St Peter hit with projectile and devastated.
12. Church of St. Luke in Štikovo devastated.
13. Parish house robbed and looted, everything stoled except walls.
Churches in Knin region
Knin
14. Parish church of St. Ante in Knin robbed and set on fire.
15. Church of Saint Joseph in Knin looted and devastated
16. Church of St. Ante in Zvjerinac in Kosovo.
17. Parish house in Kosovo mined.
18. Church of our lady devastated in diocese, frescoes of Kljaković have been ruined
Kijevo
19. Monastery of Saint Ante, everything stolen
20 Parish church of Saint Michael in Kiev destroyed to the fundations, graveyard has been desecrated.
21. Church of St Joseph in Uništa devastated by explosive mining.
22. Chapel of St Catherine toghether with parish house, cultural monument, set on fire.
23. Parish house set on fire.
24. Chapel of Our Lady of the Rosary in the village below the parish house, set on fire.
Vrpolje
25. Parish house of St James, cultural monument, set on fire.
26. Grotto/cave of our Lady of Lourdes in Golubić, devastated
Visovac
27. At the Church of Our Lady of Visovac damaged facade, bell tower and windows.
28. At the monastery damaged facade and several windows, damaged roofs on outbuildings.
Čista Velika
29. The parish church of St. Anne, destroyed by mines/explosive.
30. The church of St. Ante in Gaćelezi destroyed by mines/explosive.
31. The church of St. Jure in Dragišići significantly damaged, the inside of the church devastated, old wooden altar also destroyed.
32. The church of St. Peter in Morpolača, monument, devastated.
33. Parish house and Sunday school house set on fire.
Stankovci
34. Parish church of Great Lady damaged.
35. Church of St. Joseph in Budak damaged by shell fragments.
36. Church of St. Ante in Velim damaged by shell fragments.
37. Church of Our Lady of Mount Carmel in Putičanje damaged by shelling.
38. Church of Our Lady Podrebače on local cemetery damaged by two grenades.
Lišane
39. The parish church of St. Michael, cultural monument, set on fire, cemetery damaged.
40. The church of St. Nikola Tavelić in Lišani destroyed to the foundations.
41. The church of St. Jere in Lišane destroyed by mines/explosive.
42. Small church at the new cemetery in Lišane demolished.
43. The church of St. Kate, old church in Vukšić, cultural monument, destroyed with mines/explosive
44. Church of St. Kate, new church in Vukšić destroyed with mines/explosives.
45. The church of St. Anthony of Padua in Ostrovica, cultural monument, roof and sacristy demolished.
46. The church of St. Anthony the Hermit in Bulić, cultural monument, destroyed by mining/explosives, both bells taken away.
47. Parish house robbed and set on fire.
Piramatovci
48. Parish Church of All Saints in Krković, cultural monument, destroyed by mining/explosives.
49. The church of St. Ante in Krković, set on fire.
50. The church of St. Bartholomew in Ždrapnj, cultural monument, damaged, roof of church set on fire.
51. Church of Our Lady of Mercy (St. Roko) in Piramatovci, set on fire.
52. The church of St. Anthony of Padua at the cemetery in Vaćani destroyed, cemeteries have been desecrated.
53. The church of Mark the Evangelist in Sonković, cultural monument, completely destroyed.
54. Parish house looted/robbed and then set on fire.
Rupe
55. The parish church of St. Anthony of Padua in Rupe mined.
56. The church of Saint George in Rupe, cultural monument, set on fire, church bells taken away.
57. Parish house set on fire
Dubravice
58. Parish church of St. Catherine, cultural monument, damaged by shells.
59. Chapel of Our Lady of Fatima in Dubravice, shelled.
60. The church of St. Rocco in Prispo, shelled.
61. The church of St. Nicholas in Plastovo, cultural monument, destroyed by mines/explosives.
62. The new parish house shelled, damaged roofing and office furniture.
63. Old parish house shelled.
Miljevci
64. The parish church of Name of Jesus in Drinovci, cultural monument, damaged and devastated inside.
65. The church of St. Peter and Paul in Širitovci shelled.
66. Parish house set on fire.
Promina
67. The parish church of St. Michael in Oklaj, cultural monument, set on fire, bells stolen away.
68. Church of All Saints in Razvođe, cultural monument, set on fire, bells stolen away.
69. Church of the Holy Spirit in Matasi, set on fire.
70. Church of St. Saint Roch in Čitluk, cultural monument, burned.
71. Church of Our Lady Čatrnjske in Lukar, cultural monument, partly destroyed.
72. The church of St. Martin of Tours in Mratovo, cultural monument, set on fire.
73. Chapel St. Nikola Tavelić in Bogetić, set on fire.
74. Parish house, set on fire
Drniš
75. The parish church of Our Lady of the Rosary in Drniš, culturar monument, devastated, the roof damaged.
76. The church of St. Anthony of Padua in Drniš, culturar monument,bell and tower destroyed with mining/explosives, the roof is damaged, church is looted and devastated.
77. Church of St. Rocco Drniš mined.
78. The church of St. Jure in Žitnić, culturar monument, damaged, defiled cemetery.
79. Church of the Holy Trinity in Sedramić, culutrar monument, shelled.
80. The church of St. Jhon the Baptist in Badanj, monument,destroyed by mines.
81. Church of Queen of Peace, in Kričke severely damaged by mines, the bell tower was demolished, inventory destroyed.
82. The church of St. Elias in Lišnjak, culturar monument, damaged by shelling.
83. The church of St. Francis in Trbounje damaged and looted.
84. The parish house looted.
Siverić
85. The parish church of St. Peter in Siverić, culturar monument, shelled and devastated, the bell tower destroyed, cemeteries have been desecrated.
86. The church of St. Nediljica in Siverić, at Promina, heavily damaged and sacked.
87. The parish house was set on fire.
Kadina Glavica
88. The parish church of St. Joseph the Worker repeatedly hit by shells, interior damaged then set on fire.
89. The church of St John the Baptist in Parčić devastated with mines/explosives, graves turned into bunkers.
Gradac
90. The parish church of the Nativity of Mary in Grac, culturar monument, destroyed by mining.
91. Chapel together with the parish house in Gradac, set on fire.
92. The church of St. Martina in Moseć, mined.
93. The parish house and religious halls devastated and burned.
94. Church of the Sacred. Redeemer in Otavice, culturar monument, desecrated and damaged.
Kljaci
95. The parish church of St. Elijah In Kljaci, culturar monument, repeatedly hit by shells, large number of graves around the church destroyed.
96. The parish house was looted and devastated.
Sibenik monastic environment
Šibenik
97. The church of St. Lawrence damaged by shelling.
98. Monastery of St Lawrence shelled.
99. The parish church of Our Lady, shelled outside of the city.
100. The parish house was shelled, damaged first floor and garage.
Konjevrate
101. The parish church of St. John the Baptist, culturar monument, hit by several direct shells.
Karin
102. Church of St. Mary in Karin, culturar monument, devastated to the fundations.
103. The monastery in Karin, culturar monument, destroyed by mining. Religious tombs also mined, outter buildings burned.
Kruševo
104. The parish church of St. Jure in Kruševo, culturar monument, destroyed by mining.
105. Church of Our Lady of Zecevo, in Bukovac, set on fire.
106. The church of St. Cosmas and Damian in Ribnica, culturar monument, devastated. Altar set on fire.
107. The parish house was set on fire, religious education facilities destroyed.
Perušić
108. Parish Church of the Assumption in Perušić, culutrar monument, destroyed by mining.
109. The church of St. Jure in Perušić, culturar monument, devastated and looted.
110. Church of the Nativity of Mary in Lisičić, destroyed with mines.
111. The church of St. Martin in the Lower Lepuri, monument, mined.
112. The Church of St. Spirit in Podgrađe, culturar monument, destroyed with mines.
113. The parish house burned to the ground.
Lovinac
114. The parish church of St. Michael in Lovinac, culturar monument, set on fire.
115. The church of St. Ante in Lovinac, set on fire.
116. The church of St. Francis of Assisi in Vranik, culturar monument, destroyed with mines.
117. The church of St. The hand in Sveti Rok on fire.
118. Chapel of Our Lady of Lourdes destroyed by mining.
119. The parish house was set on fire.
Ričice
120. The parish house burned to the ground.
Sv. Rok
121. The parish church of St. Roch, culturar monument, burned, cemetery devastated .
122. Chapel of Our Lady of Lourdes destroyed.
So, we are not in front of some individuals. I think even ISIS has not destroyed so many christian churches like serbs. Now make sense the guy who sing Pope hate serbs.
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For you that have difficulty to understand the whole story, this person represents himself, not the Albanians. Meanwhile the singers for example are not some guys from perifery, they are the average serb. They are the product of serb society. This chetniks who destroyed churches and mosques and who caused the massacres in Yugoslavia are products of serb society, not isolated cases. You personally, with all the disinformation and your blind hate against the Albanians that you spread in this forum, you are one of those chetniks. You are a product of an criminalised society.
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And i am not a lawyer of the Croatian. I am explain to the others, because you know very well, that the real danger for us in Balkan are not this jihadists. To deal with this people, we have our police or secret services. The real problem for Balkans and Europe is your country. The liberation from the soviet Empire was a great moment in the history of the world. Nobody in Europe want a russian presence in our Continent. Unfortunately, your country is an ally of Russia. And this is a big problem for all Europe. Because if look back in history, was Serb who following the russian instructions caused the WWI. And we have to remember that WWII was a child of first war. Than, there was the war in Yugoslavia. Again your country, following the russian instructions caused this terrible war. This are just some moments in history, but i can bring here many other arguments to prove that your country is an antieuropean country, a real danger for our continent. Because you continue to be a strategic ally of Mosca even now. And the russian problem can not be resolved with police and secret services.
No Laberia.
You are no understand conflicts in ex Yugoslavia, and you wrongly think Serbs are to blame for all.
It is not true, even it is racist thinking.
Serbs and Croats are South Slavs, and they will solve problems, my opinion for 20-30 years, Serbs and Croats will be friends as French people and Germans.
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With what we face today is global problem. Practically every country in the world has that problem.
Islam supremacy or global jihad or what you want.
Balkan countries are especially in trouble, because they do not have means and power as rich countries.
And Green transversal is constant agenda.
What is good is that the problem is recognized in the world.
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When someone read posts like this:
understand that you never change. How can you accuse Slovenia for the war in Yugoslavia? This is not normal. You are a real danger for all of us, because you never accept your crimes. And your behavior is always anti european. The reason are to be find in your taleban mentality. This taleban and Ottoman mentality is deep rooted in your society. The reason is because you heavily mixed with Turks. And five century of mixing with Turks has left deep traces in your society.
You don't know Yugoslav conflict.
And only Muslims can know what is taliban mentality.
Slovenia carries a lot of guilt.
Slovenian forces, unprovoked, attacked soldiers of Yugoslav army who were on a regular service in SR Slovenia, which was one of Yugoslav republic.
There were victims on the side of Yugoslav army.
Completely without the need.
It was tipping point for further YU escalation, unfortunately.
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First, your mentality is a taleban mentality and i explained the reason. The first kamikaze attack in Europe is the killing of Archiduke Ferdinand. If you read one of the members of kamikaze comando, Vaso Cubrilovic, you will understand.
Second, what was the serb responsability in Yugoslavia war? Because now even Slovenia is responsabile. You, do you have any responsability?
Third, what's your opinion about your connections with Russians?
Serbs had about 3.000.000 victims in two world wars, you should respect Serbian and Yugoslav fight for freedom.
In general history is complex and the reasons why world wars erupt.
And Albania was Stalin's ally, not Serbia or Yugoslavia.
But, to continue.
Why do you don't like Russians because they are Slavs or they received religion of the Greeks and they didn't become Muslims?
Or both.
Russians received Christianity late. Yes, Russians were close to receive Islam, Muslim emissaries (Volga Bulgars) were very close to gain success at Russian ruler, prince of Kiev, Vladimir.
Who knows what the world would like today that Russians are Muslims.
But Russians became Christian nation thanks to the Greek emissaries and through history they had close links with Europeans. For example Caterine II the Great was a German princess, born in Prussia, and she was Russian leader.
Russians and European nations had periods cooperation but and confrontation, and it depends for every nation in particular.
In World War I Russian empire, France and British empire were allies against Germany and Austria-Hungary.
But 1917 Russian empire were brought down by communists, empire is abolished and communism is introduced, USSR (Soviet union) emerged.
After that Europe and Soviet union were in cold relations. After World War Two, when countries of East Europe became socialist, things were worse. Cold war emerged.
Soviet union and communism gone, Russia has re-emerged and East European countries became countries of European Union.
It was difficult that someone expects that Russia and Europe restore links what they had in some historical periods.
Today, situation is clear, Russians become Asian ally, as never in history. Lot of Europeans are not happy about it but it can no longer be changed. Who made mistake, Russians or Europeans, or both, it's doesnt matter. Asia is mostly Confucian and Islamic land and Russia is in the Asian side.
It is whole story. Serbs nothing to do with it. We enter in European Union, and Serbia will be new star in EU family.
Problem can be only because Serbia wants trade links with Russia, as Arab world and China, because business. And if we speak about free trade in world it is nothing special.
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A lot of analysis, books, material for Balkans is about soft underbelly of Europe, and Islamic threat. And I will put these sources. These years authors all over the world write about that what is good.
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Great, more about the poor poor Muslims and their suffering. My main criticism of the Albanian cause is their refusal to do anything about radical Islam- although I will reiterate that Albanians are a vastly secular people.
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The real problem in the Balkans is indeed Islam. Albanians will come to realize this quite soon. Serbia would become the problem if it invites Putin and RuSSia.
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Of course, the Jews are a supremacist cult with a plot for world domination, LOL. And Hitler was just misunderstood and the Third Reich was trying to free us all. Seriously get the hell out of here and back to Stormfront. You and your garbage are not welcome here.
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You have to admit that the style of dancing is something particular.
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Without a doubt.
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Religion is something very personal, it is the way every connects to God. Kill people has nothing to do with religion. Serbia is Russia’s puppy, has always been, and this statushas favored them to dominated Balkans killing other people, especiallyAlbanians. This is the past, thepresent, and it seems will be the future as well.
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