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    GEDmatch Archaic Matches

    A new tool comparing segments of your, to ancient DNA. Post your results.

    As expected I show most similarity to Bronze Age Hungarian samples (Indo European herders and late neolithic farmers?) and European farmers. What suprised me was the strong similarity to Ust-Ishim and Loschbour(some WHG like ancestry?). Also significant share with Kostenki14, Motala-12 and Clovis Montana.

    I seem to show average relation to Mal'ta while another Kurdish friend shares some more segments with both Mal'ta and La Brana.

    Segments shown are larger than 0.5 cM
    Last edited by Alan; 22-12-14 at 17:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    A new tool comparing segments of your, to ancient DNA. Post your results.

    As expected I show most similarity to Bronze Age Hungarian samples (Indo European herders and late neolithic farmers?) and European farmers. What suprised me was the strong similarity to Ust-Ishim and Loschbour(some WHG like ancestry?). Also significant share with Kostenki14, Motala-12 and Clovis Montana.

    I seem to show average relation to Mal'ta while another Kurdish friend who shares some more segments with both Mal'ta and La Brana.

    Segments shown are larger than 0.5 cM
    We will basically all be the same in realtion with your link, the true test is to use 2cm and see what you have.

    I have mainly BR2 and my son NE6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    We will basically all be the same in realtion with your link, the true test is to use 2cm and see what you have.

    I have mainly BR2 and my son NE6
    You might be right.
    In 23andme they use always 1.0 cM as the standard. So shouldn't we use that?

    with 1.0 cM I got most similarity with BR2, NE1, Stuttgart, Ust-Ishim, Loschbour and Clovis Montana




    With 2.0 cM



    with 2.0 cM I share most segments (from strongest to least strongest) with NE1, BR2, Stuttgart, Ust-Ishim, Loschbour and Clovis Montana.
    Last edited by Alan; 22-12-14 at 19:10.

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    Not completely sure how to read it... Anyway, here we go
    archaic_F118376_EB4566.jpg
    If I'm not wrong, I should share more significant similarities with Loschbur, LBK and a couple of neolithic hungarians. Ust Ishim sample (45,000 years ago?!) seems somehow "close", too... I have some affinity with Clovis Montana too...
    With 2.0 cm, the pictures changes significantly
    archaic_F118376_EB4566 (1).jpg
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    I ran my gedmatch number with the ancient T (ydna ) from the levant - gedmatch #( M897077)

    and got a hit only on chromosome #23


    Chr 23
    Match ID Type Name Matching segments on Chromosome 23 Overlap with previous match
    1 V3 I0707 Anatolian EF
    (M897077) 2321 - 154886292 (196.065 cM) New Root


    I really do not know how good Gedmatch is


    and ran it also through.......
    MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

    Kit M897077

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Early_Farmers 43.76
    2 Caucasian 36.7
    3 Near_East 11.36
    4 North_African 7.94
    5 Khoisan 0.13
    6 Paleo_Siberian 0.09
    7 Archaic_Human 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_Piedmont ( ) 15.14
    2 Italian_Tuscan ( ) 15.62
    3 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 16.48
    4 Italian_Bergamo ( ) 17.83



    and mine below
    MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Early_Farmers 28.49
    2 Caucasian 28.43
    3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 25.13
    4 South_Central_Asian 5.25
    5 Near_East 4.36
    6 North_African 4.33
    7 Ancestral_Altaic 3.04
    8 Melano_Polynesian 0.98

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_North ( ) 1.32
    2 German-Volga ( ) 8.12
    3 South_German ( ) 8.83
    4 Italian_Piedmont ( ) 9.21
    5 Italian_Tuscan ( ) 9.73
    6 Austrian ( ) 9.86
    7 Italian_Bergamo ( ) 10.48


    Since we have Italian_Piedmont representing NW-Italy and
    Italian_Bergamo representing Central Northern italy then
    Italian_North must represent NE-Italy

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    I'm new to Gedmatch so I'm not sure if I'm doing this right...

    When comparing my kit with archaic DNA kits, changing the threshold to 4cM, I get 4 "matches".
    Kit F99916 (Stuttgart) seems to be my closest match, followed by some kits from Hungary. A "one to one" autosomal comparison against F999916 using the default parameters produces the following results:


    The largest segment seems to be 7.4cM, and the MCRA = 7.5, which seems rather unlikely unless my ancestors were vampires or something.

    Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
    4 185,882,454 187,833,759 7.4 221

    Largest segment = 7.4 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 7.4 cM (0.206 Pct)
    Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.5

    1 shared segments found for this comparison.

    170781 SNPs used for this comparison.

    53.144 Pct SNPs are full identical

    Comparison took 0.022 seconds.
    CPU time used: 0.016 cpu seconds.


    Reducing the threshold to 3cM, I get the following:



    Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
    1 220,506,871 227,118,741 4.2 377
    3 38,886,413 43,391,043 3.9 233
    3 133,730,608 138,928,207 4.4 247
    4 185,882,454 187,833,759 7.4 221
    7 22,242,535 25,128,788 3.1 213

    Largest segment = 7.4 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 23.0 cM (0.641 Pct)

    5 shared segments found for this comparison.

    170781 SNPs used for this comparison.

    53.144 Pct SNPs are full identical

    Comparison took 0.016 seconds.
    CPU time used: 0.014 cpu seconds.


    Does this have any significance or is it just random? Most of my ancestry is Greek, although I do have a maternal great grandmother from the Friulli region in N.Italy, which is closer to Stuttgart.

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