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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone View Post
    Lately every time I post on a board somewhere the response is invariably rude and sarcastic. People suck.
    I'm sorry you took my post as a sarcasm. Do read my answer to Lebrok. My post was not a "tackle" to your one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOESAN View Post
    Thanks Lebrok. I'm surprised by the Tone 's reaction, apparently not used to humor; my tentative of "humor" concerned facts, and not Tone himself. If Tone read well my post, he 'll see I was agreeing with him for the most. I see I 'll have to be carefull in choosing my words in future.
    It's hard to avoid doing it by accident online as irl people judge words spoken with facial expressions etc.

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    Distribution of the 'Yamnaya' genetic component in the populations of Europe (data taken from Haak et al., 2015). The intensity of the colour corresponds to the contribution of this component in various modern populations. The scale of intervals is to the right. The purple line represents the borders of the Yamnaya area. The brown arrow shows the direction of migration postulated by the proponents of a Yamnaya origin for the Indo-Europeans of Europe. The red arrows show the direction of the movement of the 'Yamnaya' component in accordance with the gradient shown on this distribution. The map shows that the 'Yamnaya' genetic component is hardly Yamnaya in origin; rather it is a more ancient component originating in the populations of northern Europe from whence it spread both to the steppes and to the cultures of central Europe and elsewhere. Map by O.P. Balanovsky.

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...fig2_318751121

    What's up with the spike of yellow in Molise/North Apulia?

    Distribution of Yamnaya, along with neo/ChL Italian farmer groups:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post

    What's up with the spike of yellow in Molise/North Apulia?
    The data, as written, were taken from Haak 2015. So the data was largely adjusted, and invented to make the map and a point, because in Haak 2005 the results were based on only a few samples, and many national and regional populations were not even present.


    The results of Haak 2015 are those published many times over.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post

    Distribution of the 'Yamnaya' genetic component in the populations of Europe (data taken from Haak et al., 2015). The intensity of the colour corresponds to the contribution of this component in various modern populations. The scale of intervals is to the right. The purple line represents the borders of the Yamnaya area. The brown arrow shows the direction of migration postulated by the proponents of a Yamnaya origin for the Indo-Europeans of Europe. The red arrows show the direction of the movement of the 'Yamnaya' component in accordance with the gradient shown on this distribution. The map shows that the 'Yamnaya' genetic component is hardly Yamnaya in origin; rather it is a more ancient component originating in the populations of northern Europe from whence it spread both to the steppes and to the cultures of central Europe and elsewhere. Map by O.P. Balanovsky.

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...fig2_318751121

    What's up with the spike of yellow in Molise/North Apulia?

    Distribution of Yamnaya, along with neo/ChL Italian farmer groups:


    yellow spike is linked with liburnian and histrian lands in the north adriatic sea..........follows the Daunian paper explanations and the later J2b ancient samples from the area which also link with Foggia j2b samples
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-PF6155

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    FWIW, my haplogroup is from the Balkans in the Bronze Age.

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    To the best of my recollection, Lazaridis, in response to a query, said that Spain-North in Haak et al is Spanish Basque. It's by no means half of Spain. In fact the rest of Spain doesn't even look like it's 20%, so I don't know what the heck Kristiansen is doing.


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