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    Gela is South Eastern Sicily city not Western. Licata is Southern Central. Camilleri is a Southern Sicilian surname, not Palermitan because inhabitans of Palermo have ancestors from all over the island (and Italy).

    http://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cog...ILLERI/SICILIA

    The second province were Attardo peaks is Siracusa.

    http://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cog...TTARDO/SICILIA

    Vella is common all over the island except Enna and Messina provinces.

    http://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cog.../VELLA/SICILIA

    I add other common surnames in Malta like Bonnici, who is almost exclusively of Siracusa and Catania

    http://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cog...ONNICI/SICILIA

    And Abela

    http://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cog.../ABELA/SICILIA

    As you can see, the latin surnames of Malta are from all over Sicily, not just Agrigento and Caltanissetta provinces.
    Sicilians and mainlander Southern Italian phenotype galleries.

    http://italicroots.lefora.com/topic/1111/Re-Groups-of-Sicilians
    http://italicroots.lefora.com/topic/375/Southern-italians-how-we-really-look

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    It just seems obvious to me that given that the "Maltese" surnames are concentrated along the southern coast, the most likely point of departure from Sicily to Malta was there even if they are found elsewhere.

    Another two peaking in Gela are Azzopardi ("Zuppardo") and Scicluna ("Scicolone", derived from the town Scicli in Ragusa province).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HQ420832 View Post
    Here are (for the first time I think) the Dodecad 12b results for of a friend from Malta (all known ancestors from Malta). Not surprisingly, his results are quite similar to Sicilians but with a higher African component (North/West/East=8.0% vs 5.0%) quite similar to Portuguese (8.5%).

    Component Maltese Sicilian_D
    Caucasus 34.8 36.5
    Atlantic_Med 25.3 30
    Southwest_Asian 13.2 11.9
    North_European 11.5 11.9
    Gedrosia 6.8 4.5
    Northwest_African 6.1 4.1
    Sub_Saharan 1.0 0.2
    East_African 0.9 0.7
    South_Asian 0.2 0.1
    East_Asian 0.2 0.0
    Southeast_Asian 0.1 0.0
    Siberian 0.0 0.0

    Same for Dodecad Globe 13:

    Component Maltese Sicilian_D
    Mediterranean 36.4 40.6
    West_Asian 24.9 23.6
    Southwest_Asian 19.5 17.3
    North_European 15 16.5
    East_African 1.7 0.5
    West_African 1.3 1
    Palaeo_African 0.0 0.2
    Australasian 0.5 0.2
    East_Asian 0.5 0.1
    Siberian 0.2 0.0
    South_Asian 0.0 0.0
    Amerindian 0.0 0.0
    Arctic 0.0 0.0


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    Maleth knows a great deal about Maltese history. Perhaps he'll chime in, and correct me if necessary, but the Knights engaged in the slave trade. Some of it may have come from Africa. That might explain the differences, although they are small.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratt View Post
    Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle
    This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
    Questions about results should be sent to him at: [email protected]
    Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
    Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

    The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Med 35.43
    2 North_European 31.73
    3 Caucasus 18.92
    4 Gedrosia 7.19
    5 Southwest_Asian 5.01
    6 Northwest_African 1.64


    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
    12 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 10.754071
    2 North_Italian_HGDP @ 13.897596
    3 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 14.276514
    4 French_HGDP @ 14.957365
    5 French_Dodecad @ 15.008798
    6 Romanians_Behar @ 15.771966
    7 TSI30_Metspalu @ 16.440754
    8 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 17.053511
    9 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 17.141352
    10 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 17.607548
    11 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 17.678137
    12 Tuscan_HGDP @ 17.976521
    13 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 18.569544
    14 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 18.880589
    15 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 18.963093
    16 Hungarians_Behar @ 19.319050
    17 German_Dodecad @ 19.339350
    18 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 20.204691
    19 Cataluna_1000Genomes @ 20.442408
    20 Dutch_Dodecad @ 20.850052

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% British_Dodecad +50% Greek_Dodecad @ 1.446007


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +25% O_Italian_Dodecad +25% Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.828508


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 German_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.393276
    2 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + French_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.500826
    3 British_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.610817
    4 Bulgarian_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Irish_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.640883
    5 Bulgarian_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.665206
    6 British_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.677554
    7 German_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes + Sicilian_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 0.683037
    8 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + French_HGDP + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.691684
    9 C_Italian_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.719428
    10 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + British_Isles_Dodecad + Dutch_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.722368
    11 Bulgarian_Dodecad + French_HGDP + Orcadian_HGDP + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.760813
    12 Cornwall_1000Genomes + French_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.765977
    13 Argyll_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + North_Italian_HGDP + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.773724
    14 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + British_Isles_Dodecad + Dutch_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 0.781435
    15 German_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.794302
    16 German_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes + Sicilian_Dodecad + Tuscan_HGDP @ 0.804098
    17 British_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.808714
    18 Argyll_1000Genomes + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + French_HGDP + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.818413
    19 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 0.826889
    20 Dutch_Dodecad + Dutch_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 0.828508

    Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Maleth knows a great deal about Maltese history. Perhaps he'll chime in, and correct me if necessary, but the Knights engaged in the slave trade. Some of it may have come from Africa. That might explain the differences, although they are small.
    Sorry just spotted this now. Thanks for the comment. Indeed you are right Angela. The Knights engaged in a considerable slave trade activity mainly due to their very well know maritime (Corso) activities. We know that when General Napoleon Bonaparte took over from the Knights, he had abolished slavery and freed some 2000 North African Slaves (presumingly mostly Tunisians). It is well presumed that most of these Slaves had remained on the Island converted to Christianity and also married local women. Some would have also returned to their native lands. This could well explain any possible North African component genetically.

    https://www.timesofmalta.com/article...in-malta.20844

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