Can this Genetiker be trusted? I mean he's some amateur blogger, correct me if i'm wrong.
I don't know. He's been right about most of the uniparental markers, I think. The calculators are the calculators. I suppose anyone could run the genomes through them? However, there aren't all that many snps. His interpretations of the data are another issue.
I'm just posting the K12b for each of them just for ease of reference.
P192.1
- 45.82% Caucasus
- 26.87% Atlantic_Med
- 21.68% North_European
- 2.36% Sub_Saharan
- 2.01% Northwest_African
- 1.26% Siberian
- 0.00% East_African
- 0.00% East_Asian
- 0.00% Gedrosia
- 0.00% South_Asian
- 0.00% Southeast_Asian
- 0.00% Southwest_Asian
T2G2 Also Iron Age, but a higher status burial
- 54.44% Gedrosia
- 19.46% Sub_Saharan
- 13.43% Atlantic_Med
- 11.30% South_Asian
- 1.34% Caucasus
- 0.03% East_Asian
- 0.00% East_African
- 0.00% North_European
- 0.00% Northwest_African
- 0.00% Siberian
- 0.00% Southeast_Asian
- 0.00% Southwest_Asian
K8 The highest status Iron Age burial (J2M410)
- 32.79% Atlantic_Med
- 29.27% Gedrosia
- 17.54% North_European
- 17.50% Caucasus
- 2.90% Northwest_African
- 0.00% East_African
- 0.00% East_Asian
- 0.00% Siberian
- 0.00% South_Asian
- 0.00% Southeast_Asian
- 0.00% Southwest_Asian
- 0.00% Sub_Saharan
V2 Bronze Age
- 44.15% North_European
- 20.14% Sub_Saharan
- 15.06% Gedrosia
- 9.62% Siberian
- 7.67% Caucasus
- 3.35% Southeast_Asian
- 0.01% East_Asian
- 0.00% Atlantic_Med
- 0.00% East_African
- 0.00% Northwest_African
- 0.00% South_Asian
- 0.00% Southwest_Asian
Here is the Danish Bronze for comparision
- 36.03% Atlantic_Med
- 25.03% Gedrosia
- 20.05% Siberian
- 12.66% Southeast_Asian
- 5.08% Sub_Saharan
- 0.84% North_European
- 0.31% South_Asian
- 0.00% Caucasus
- 0.00% East_African
- 0.00% East_Asian
- 0.00% Northwest_African
- 0.00% Southwest_Asian
Amazing that the Bronze Age Danish sample has virtually no North European, and such high Siberian and south east Asian. There's significant Atlanto Med and Gedrosia.
The Sub-Saharan in V2 looks totally off so there just may not be enough snps.
This is a comment that appeared on the Genetiker blog.
"But let’s look at them step by step:
– V2[Bronze Age] seems to be North European with strong West Asian admixture (Gedrosia), but it’s very noisy.
– T2G2 [Iron Age] seems to be predominantly West Asian (Gedrosia), but again very noisy.
– P192-1 [Iron Age] is more Southern than present-day Bulgarians and Frenchmen, but more Northern than Greeks and Portuguese, while the West Asian component is astoundingly weak.
– K8[High status Iron Age] in contrast has a very strong West Asian admixture, and besides that he’s quite Mediterranean, and also somewhat Northern.
Even though P192-1 and K8 are both from Iron Age Bulgaria, they look as if they were from different ethnicities. And if they really were both Thracians, then P192-1 may have been rather from a Thracicized, maybe pre-IE substrate."
That seems about right, doesn't it for 192-1 and K8? The other two may just not have enough snps for accuracy.
P192-1 is not your standard EEF person. What migrations and mixing formed him? Does anyone have the K12 for Otzi?
K8 looks like a mix to me.