Religion Can Muslims live peacefully with Christians, and vice versa?

[Rethel]

So all the massacres between orthodox and Catholics happened because of Christianity. Not at all. Are you aware about the massacres in America made by Spanish conquistadors against the pagan native population.

You are again miss informed.
Spanish only make a war with savages who were killing each other and sacrifaiced people to pagan gods.
You, as muslim should be glad of that. Most Indians in latin America was mixing with spaniards, and local
tribes were very glad that spaniards arrived and freed them from aztec, mayan and inca opression.

Muslim killed during 1400 years about 250.000.000 people.
Among this 60.000.000 christian and 80.000.000 negors.
You have every record in such kind of behavior.

Or maybe you forgot what your beloved Turkish
(and Albanians among them) did in Ornanto?
How they were very loving and peacefull...

Btw, if you are a nationalist, why you
are beliving in the faith of your opressors?
You would be a christian if Turks woudnt be in Albania.

We have in Albania mixed families between Christians and Muslims.

But they are still muslims and christians. It was possible before,
because Albania was a totalitarian atheistic state. You all were
atheists - so no one cared who was who in the past. But now,
new generation of muslims in Albania has totaly different, true
definition what is Islam and what is not - and it will be enlarge.

p.s. can you make normal quotations, not large as 95% of your posts size?

 

[Rethel]

Everything what you wrote could be pretty false.

So you have no idea at all what Islam teaches or you are lying. Tertium non datur.

I don't care what was happening 1400 years ago.

So how can you called yoursef a muslim, if you do not care what Islam is?

Only you do so.

I care, because, from the fact, who Mohammed was, depend truthness or falsness of Islam.
If you don't care, who Mohammed was, so you are an atheists, not a muslim. Muslim must
belive and behave like Islam teaches, like Mohammed did. Otherwise you are a hypokite, or
you're false claiming that you are a muslim... So this is very important what was 1400 years
ago, because this is Islam - the teachings and models of muslim behavior.

If Mohammed was a true prophet - then you must obey him, and Islam is truth.
If he was not - you cannot obey him, and Islam is false since the beginnig to the end.

There is no other option. If you don't care who Mohammed is - was he true or not prophet,
then you are not a muslim. If you do not listen to Mohammed - you are not true muslim. You
cannot belive in Buddha or claiming him, that he was the true prophet of Islam, and still called
yourself a muslim... such behavior would be an insanity. So, you have only two options - or you
are lying to us about Islam like taqqiya teaches, or you are not muslim at all...

My personal view is that, Christianity and Islam are both wonderful religions. The problem are some extremists like you.

No.
Problem in Islam is Koran, and Sunna and Mohammed himself. All teachings of Islam are problems.
You cannot choose from this what you want and call it Islam, because you are not founder of Islam.

 

[Rethel]

To Zeus. Zeus and their God, it's the same

And you called yourself a muslim...

 

[Boreas]

Yes. The Nakshbandi are the only one Sufi order, ,which is Sunni.

Mawlavi also should be Sunni.

 

[LeBrok]

oh, come on!! cant you see that is real, and
words written in the distant past - today is come out

besides ....why are you so intolerant for only one group - christians? :useless:

Cite me being tolerant to Muslim fundamentalists. By the same token I'm intolerant to all sorts of fanatics and extremists, Christian fundamentalists included.

why are you so intolerant for only one group - christians? :useless:

Now you know how Muslims feel hearing Christian fanatic like Rethel.




Live and let live. Or as Jesus said, "Love your neighbors".




PS. You are behind proxy server, this is forbidden on Eupedia.

 

[LeBrok]

Muslim killed during 1400 years about 250.000.000 people.
Among this 60.000.000 christian and 80.000.000 negors.
You have every record in such kind of behavior.

How did you come up with this number? Now enlighten us how many millions Christians killed and Buddhists.

 

[Rethel]

How did you come up with this number? Now enlighten us how many millions Christians killed and Buddhists.

I underestimated negros. It was even 120.000.000, and in total 270.000.000 people.

Here you have method and explenation in detail by Bill Warner.

http://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/

But this number dont include people who died because they were
muslims in muslims countries. Like this Egyptians during the ages...
Probably this is impossible to estimate...

 

[Rethel]

Cite me being tolerant to Muslim fundamentalists.

Being antychristian and prononfundamental muslims is enough.
Why?

1. You are part of anihilating christainity machine making from christains atheists.
2. Muslims are the same part as well - they are making from christians muslims.
3. More muslims in Europe = lower percentage of christians in Europe.
4. Among muslims are jihadists. Amog christians are none jihadists.
5. Muslims are not beliving in nihilistic worldview in such large number as christians.
6. Muslims blow buses because of their religion, not christains.
7. Musims want sharia in Europe, USA and Canada as well... not christians...
8. Muslims hate european countries, not christians.
9. Rating of crimes and rapes is rapidly growing everywhere were are muslims, not christians.
10. Why? Not because this people are different, but because of IDEOLOGY called Islam.

 

[Sile]

If you look carefully, Zeus was the real God even in ancient times [emoji6]

There are only really 2 types of people................people who believe in God and people who do not.
If we eliminate all the fabricated religions created by man we will have no religious wars........is this hard to understand!

If I had to give a sex to God , I would choose that God was female , only because all humans for the first 6 weeks once the sperm fertilzes the egg are ALL female. The Y chromosome ( if you have one ) kicks in after that and that's how you get a man.

On Zeus, why bring in an example of an Idol, same as cresent or cross or buddha etc etc????

 

[Rethel]

Now you know how Muslims feel hearing Christian fanatic like Rethel.

Le Brok, you want from me, such a thing as you, beliving in equal rights
in "marriage" for homosexuals, would be against this so called marriages.
Are you?

So don't call me fanatic, because I am talking according to my belives.
If I would declare one, and talking something else it would be nonsense.

By the way, christians ("bad" fanatics as you called us) still have some
selfpreserved instincts and enaugh brain. It cant be saying about yours
nihilistic tribe, because you are fighting people who allowed you to exist
& grow in number, but you invite people, who hate you, despise you and
want to kill you all. Like this bishopess from sweden... stupididy of largest
size as is possible... I never saw a imamess in Arabia who would change a
mousqe into church and insted of crescents want to install crosses...

This people are laughing from yours stupidity and they will beheded
you all when they will have an ocasion. Very soon... very soon...
You can talk about atheism and love aso - they dont care...

Do you know this guy named Anjem Choudary? This is the only one onest and
mostly truly speaking muslim whom I know. Lisen to him and hear. Listen what
he is talking about... and you will see a programme (true one) which they have.

If you still will not understand, this will means that you are truly blind and you
are living in some imaginary world... You will wake up some day, when you will
be beheaded, and your head will be routed on the street. Probably you'll have
then couple of seconds to consider your previous ideology... But I think, that
you rather will convert to Islam walking to the mosque regurally and praying...
Why? Because you belive in nothing, so you care only about your life... When
you and your tribe will destroyed christianity completly, then you will become
very devoted muslims. Everyone, who will be not beheaded yet...

 

[Rethel]

Live and let live. Or as Jesus said, "Love your neighbors".

Bible has 31.000 verses, and you know only that one? etrified:

 

[navi32]

Cite me being tolerant to Muslim fundamentalists. By the same token I'm intolerant to all sorts of fanatics and extremists, Christian fundamentalists included.

Now you know how Muslims feel hearing Christian fanatic like Rethel.

Live and let live. Or as Jesus said, "Love your neighbors".

Why you do not understand the danger?
For now being in Europe is not them too much, and already
they blackmail goverment of Ireland, with terrorist attack
to give them land so they can make enclave [part of Irleand territory], with shariat rights !

So ...as much they are, as much they are afford..
This is serious danger , and you propably wake up too late
Me , Rethel and others will have clean conscience if that beast show up
in full effect.
But you .. What can you say if the black scenario will show up??
Whoops?:startled:
And it show up for sure.

I have tolerance for all people , that the reason, why we in first priority should protect innocents
Not attackers, murderers,thiefs, blackmailers etc etc

PS. You are behind proxy server, this is forbidden on Eupedia.

This is impossible , i used proxy server around one year ago, and never use on this forum
I have no reason to do it
Maybe something is storing wrong in my ip
(I do not know too much)

 

[navi32]

Cite me being tolerant to Muslim fundamentalists. By the same token I'm intolerant to all sorts of fanatics and extremists, Christian fundamentalists included.

Now you know how Muslims feel hearing Christian fanatic like Rethel.

Live and let live. Or as Jesus said, "Love your neighbors".

Why you do not understand the danger?
For now being in Europe is not them too much, and already
they blackmail goverment of Ireland, with terrorist attack
to give them land so they can make enclave [part of Irleand territory], with shariat rights !

So ...as much they are, as much they are afford..
This is serious danger , and you propably wake up too late
Me , Rethel and others will have clean conscience if that beast show up
in full effect.
But you .. What can you say if the black scenario will show up??
Whoops?:startled:
And it show up for sure.

I have tolerance for all people , that the reason, why we in first priority should protect innocents
Not attackers, murderers,thiefs, blackmailers etc etc

PS. You are behind proxy server, this is forbidden on Eupedia.

This is impossible , i used proxy server around one year ago, and never use on this forum
I have no reason to do it
Maybe something is storing wrong in my ip
(I do not know too much)

 

[Rethel]

PS. You are behind proxy server, this is forbidden on Eupedia.

What is going on? Can you explain?

 

[Yetos]

GUYS
WATCH CaREFULLY,

Christians,
Born in Jerusalem or Nazaret/Galilea?, By one man, riots, Romans, Massada (2nd Messiah) Gathering to Rome, the march to Rome by Peter or Paul?, the hoax of Arena,
what follows, Dark ages, burning bibliotheqes, killing scientists, witch hanting, religious wars that reach 30 years, etc
how many rapes, assasins etc etc in order to turn Europe to jesus, and then America,

Islam
Born in Mekka, by one man, (or medina?) by one man, riots, Egira, Crusaders (romans?) 2nd leader (sunni Suffi) march to Europe (who is expected to come to become martyr to burn cities as in Rome), the Hoax of EU borders,
what follows? Dark ages, burning Universities, killing scientists, witch hunting, religious wars, 3rd schism,
how many rapes, assasins etc etc to turn Europe to Allah and Mohamet

they will recycle great scientific books to write about Allah, as christians did to palimpsista leather scrolls

nothing different,
THE GIFT OF MONOTHEISM = Tyrrany

 

[Fire Haired14]

Are you the one who understand that! [emoji57]

Anyone who reads the New testement would know. Try it. There's a wrong assumption it has to do with good works. It's hilarious how Jesus preached against Pharisees then the Church and the way it is seen has become in a lot of ways like the Pharisees.

 

[Fire Haired14]

I'm glad god told you. You must be the chosen one.

My religion is true.
No, my religion is true, you infidel!
No, no, my religion is true, you heretic!!
No, no, no, my religion is the true one, you idiots !!!

It being hard for you to believe that there's a true religion doesn't make it impossible. The box that sacreligious put religion in is idiotic. It's not about blindly believing something with no evidence, it's not about being superstitious, it's not motivated by fulfilling an emotional gap, it's not full of crazy people, it doesn't cause people to hate and kill each other, it doesn't put the mind in jail and hurt scientific discovery.

These are all characteristics of religion that kids learn in school and are of the opinion of people like you. We're not all backwards cavemen who hate anyone who is differnt. I'm fed up with you displaying us like that all the time. I'm not going to let you put me in your box. At times those characteristics are true, but among Christians that is not accepted behavior.

Imagine if you believed you know the true religion. You'd get angry if someone dis agreed with you. That's normal human reaction if they know something very important.

The last thing I have to say is: I'm not the aggressor here, I'm reacting to you. I don't agree with everything Rethel says. But I felt obligated to confront you twisting his words and defend arguments I agreed with.

 

[Rethel]

Christians,
Born in Jerusalem or Nazaret/Galilea?, By one man,

Islam
Born in Mekka, by one man, (or medina?) by one man,

And you are so wrong...

Because Christianity is not a religion of one guy, as Islam.

Christianity is a religion of 60-70 guys and 66-90 books
writing during 4000 years and who are compatible with
each other living in many places.

Islam is a religion of one guy and one book of one man in one time in one place.

So... the difference is huge.

 

[Rethel]

Imagine if you believed you know the true religion. You'd get angry if someone dis agreed with you.

He already is doing that

The last thing I have to say is: I'm not the aggressor here, I'm reacting to you. I don't agree with everything Rethel says. But I felt obligated to confront you twisting his words and defend arguments I agreed with.

I am very thankfull to you Fire Hiared

 

[Rethel]

And... was no need to wait to long for muslim peace loving action...
And as usual lefists jurnalist are silent about religion and motives of
this men, calling them simply terrorists from nowhere without identity..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...od-scene-not-far-Charlie-Hebdo-shootings.html

Paris under siege: Dozens killed and injured in series of coordinated terrorist attacks
after Kalashnikov-wielding gunman goes on the rampage in the capital, 100 hostages
are taken at concert hall and explosions are heard near national stadium

• 18 people said to have been killed in terror attacks in central Paris tonight
• Two attackers reportedly had suicide vests near Stade de France stadium
• Hostages taken from rock metal concert at Bataclan music hall, police said