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Thread: Illyrian and Albanian - a linguistic approach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johane Derite View Post
    The d in Skerd- was a typo.

    It was meant to be Sker- is same stem as Harr- (tear out, remove).
    Was it? In the Skerdilaidas name, it seems to me the first part of the compound is indeed Skerd. But I have to look for that. Ah so it's now Harr instead of Harroj. :)

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    As for nonsense, all your writing has creepy and disturbing undertones of violence and some pathological sexuality obsessions, all signs of a disturbed abnormal mind.
    Most want to descend of "Steppe" riders, who conquer people. Whats the fuss about IE's? Because of them being successful and imposing their will upon the others.. Polako's cowboys on horses etc. Why not be honest about it. Vikings?? Why do you think people glorify Vikings etc.. For all the same reasons whether they admit it or not. If you take a look at these forums, it is all the same pattern..
    Average Albanian IQ is in the high 80s, and Yugos are not much better from the charts I've seen. That's your normal Western Balkanite, so carry on on being normal and copying my Greek E-V13 analysis instead of making your own, cause it maybe requires abnormal IQ for Western Balkan standards. Also "normal" people are "average" not elite..

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    On one hand you are mentioning some big bad conqueror cumans, and yet all your ancestors seem to have forgotten about them within one generation and preffered to pass on a tradition about being from the albanian Kuqi tribe.
    Not all lineages mentioned it. Actually my own lineage did not mention any arrival from the Kuqi. In a large book about the Kuchi tribe, my family was only cited once, in this one tradition that did not even mention what subgroup of Kuqi they are from. There are PH908 families with explicit Kuchi branch traditions, a new R1a Z280 result with a Kuch surname!! If one were to take seriously Kuchi area traditions than Kuchi were the most genetically diverse place on the planet. In reality they mostly all descend of their E-V13 cluster.

    You know what's funny about this? There are families closely related to me on Peshter, 500 years and more and my family had no idea they were related but they were making up Kuchi traditions. As I've said none of these families have any Kuqi tradition.

    Kuqi had an expansion in 18th century, so well done to Kuqi tribe on that. Vasojevici similarly became big from being a very minor tribe.

    You better work on Kuqi and their Albanian identity as in Montenegro Kuchi are pro-Serbian on average. But most of your identities are based on religion anyways (Albanians less so except those from Macedonia), would you expect all those Tosk I2a Din people now to switch to Slavic??

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    Which ever way you spin it, you didn't keep your language, and need to come to terms with it.
    It is impossible to keep a language that is related to language of the Ottoman Turks who were taking over the region. But some traces do exist. Nevertheless it doesn't matter. I speak Turkish, dead languages can be revived if there are people dedicated to them and their culture. Cumans are worthy of that from my POV, reviving some average Joe Balkan tribe that are all same and boring is not my cup of tea.

    Cumans were subjects, moving the pawns around, whereas these Balkan average Joe's were just objects.

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    EV13 is Albanoid linguistically, deal with it.
    E-V13 is Thracoid linguistically, deal with it.

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    Σκόδρα (Skodra) in proto-Albanian should have been Hadria...

    Albanian. Hardhuc (newt lizard)
    Ancient Greek. σκορδύλος (skordlos, newt lizard)

    (Sk > H) (o > a)...
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    Hadria is an interesting parallel. Connecting ancient Scodra itself with Albanian has been criticised as Albanian s > sh is something newer. Etruscans did have ties with Illyrians.

    There is another important change in Albanian sp > f (Alb. farë - Gr. σπόρος). Illyrians themselves were also alternatively written Hillyri in Greek. Initial f/pf is common in Greek, so island Hvar from Greek Pharos.

    Also hardhël(ë) is alternative form of hardhucë, if this one is older it looks like an analogue of "Scerdil".

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