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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    According to general election polls, periodic peaks of Donald Trump's popularity come once every two months (the last three periods of peak support for Trump in polls were: 22-25 May; 25-29 July; 15-20 September). In between these periods of Trump's popularity we can observe peaks of Clinton's supremacy (25-28 June; 6-11 and 25-28 August; 13-18 October). If this long-term trend continues, then today another period of Clinton's decline has just started, and around the middle of November we should expect another peak of Trump's popularity. However, the 2016 presidential election will take place on Tuesday, November 8 - around one week before the expected next peak of support for Trump. So, he needs to try hard to catch up a bit faster than usually if he wants to win.
    ^ Indeed, that was the case:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Some totally unbiased German press was just a little bit too fast... :


    Nice, but it's only half of the truth. See here the other half:
    https://twitter.com/maz_online/statu..._src=twsrc^tfw
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    They prepared articles for both scenarios the day before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Just for laughs:

    my responce to the vid


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=WTtgQvqa7Os

    Anyways, question. Since the West Coast is mostly a Liberal Clinton Stronghold; even after her defeat. How do you suppose Trump is going to convince the West Coast that he is the better option? My dad keeps on saying that the News should've asked Trump is he was going to Bankrupt America. Stock markets seem convincing so far but that's only one day so let's not get too carried away; it's too soon to tell if the Stock market will stay up there. Trump Indeed has his work cut out for him.

    http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/west...test/465700652

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    None of this is original with me...

    It was all about turnout.

    The 5,000 whiny little Hillary supporters clogging up Fifth Avenue in protests have no one to blame but themselves if she lost. They obviously didn't get enough people out to vote for her.

    "Trump got 1.1M fewer votes than McCain, 2M fewer votes than Romney.Clinton got 7M fewer votes than Obama 2012."



    "Low-income rural white voters in Pa. voted for Obama in 2008 and then Trump in 2016, and your explanation is white supremacy?"




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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    None of this is original with me...

    It was all about turnout.

    The 5,000 whiny little Hillary supporters clogging up Fifth Avenue in protests have no one to blame but themselves if she lost. They obviously didn't get enough people out to vote for her.

    "Trump got 1.1M fewer votes than McCain, 2M fewer votes than Romney.Clinton got 7M fewer votes than Obama 2012."



    "Low-income rural white voters in Pa. voted for Obama in 2008 and then Trump in 2016, and your explanation is white supremacy?"


    Don't look at me, my personal policy is to follow where the wind is blowing and study it. I find it really interesting that Trump supporters think of Trump as the new Ronald Reagan yet George Bush; a political remnant of the Raegan era, public ally didn't vote for Trump. Not that I'm complaining or anything, I just find it Ironic.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politi...llary-clinton/

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    Irony and hypocrisy abounds, Twilight. For a minute I thought perhaps both sides would take the high road, but it doesn't look like it.

    I just have very little patience for a lot of young people today. Some of these yo-yos reacted to losing an election by burning the American flag?

    You know how many times I've been disappointed in election results over the years? That's democracy. If you really believed in your candidate and worked really hard for them then of course it's emotional and upsetting when they lose, but that's how democracy works. I was just as disgusted when Trump implied he might not accept the results of the election. President Obama, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump all did the right thing. Now it's time for these babies to go back to class or work, and if they want change, start organizing for the next time around.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Irony and hypocrisy abounds, Twilight. For a minute I thought perhaps both sides would take the high road, but it doesn't look like it.

    I just have very little patience for a lot of young people today. Some of these yo-yos reacted to losing an election by burning the American flag?

    You know how many times I've been disappointed in election results over the years? That's democracy. If you really believed in your candidate and worked really hard for them then of course it's emotional and upsetting when they lose, but that's how democracy works. I was just as disgusted when Trump implied he might not accept the results of the election. President Obama, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump all did the right thing. Now it's time for these babies to go back to class or work, and if they want change, start organizing for the next time around.

    I totally understand. ^_^ The last time that a Republican candidate won Washington State was in 1984 and it was Ronald Raegan himself. Find it interesting that the Cascade mountain Range has created a rough political divide in the Pacific Northwest though

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_Range

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post

    "Low-income rural white voters in Pa. voted for Obama in 2008 and then Trump in 2016, and your explanation is white supremacy?"


    They are not necessarily the same voters Angela. Usually voter turnout is about 50%, and usually same people vote in every election and same never vote. This time, I believe, some characters who never vote, came out of woodwork to vote for Trump, and some who usually votes didn't vote this time in protest.
    Talking about some characters:
    KKK congratulates Trump on the win.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-thanks-wikil/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired14 View Post
    Not surprised. He's not a real conservative that's for sure. He's pro-gay, was or is pro-abortion. He made himself appear to be very conservative to get votes .
    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired14 View Post
    I believe most of what Trump says is honest.
    I have no idea how did you reconcile these opposing views on Trump in your head?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    This is why calling someone a racist will soon have no meaning. I can remember someone assuming that an ancient banker was probably Jewish because, well, I don't know, I guess because all Jews are bankers or all bankers are Jews? Was that person a racist? I absolutely don't believe that.
    Why didn't you address his statement about "not letting black people count his money" instead. "Lazy thinking" is one thing, how about "lazy doing" and not renting his apartments to blacks?

    You can't possibly think that Trump, whose daughter Ivanka married a Jew, converted to Judaism herself, and is raising her children as Jews is anti-Semitic?
    And how does it stop a racist liking certain ethnicities and totally disrespect others? Didn't he referred to superiority of his family, like breeding stallions, or something like this?

    As for the ad in the paper, would it have been ok if they were guilty? Would it have been ok if the alleged perpetrators were white? I can't look into his heart, so I don't know if his outrage would have been the same if men from some white motorcycle group had gang raped a young woman. Maybe I tend to think other people are like me. It would have made absolutely no difference to me. The law doesn't allow it, but my instinct in these cases has always been for castration if I'm to be truthful.
    Everybody can make mistakes in quick judgment. However he had years to cool down and rethink all to rectify his angry outburst, but he didn't. Same as with Obama's birth certificate. I'm sure he still believes it was all rigged and he was right all along. He is conspiracy theorist after all. Mind, that in both these cases the "perpetrators" are blacks.

    The comment about the judge with Mexican ancestry was stupid (he may have to go before the same judge multiple times), immature, impulsive, and spiteful. It's a good example of why I don't think he has the judgment to be president. However, does it prove he's a racist? What does that even mean in that context? He's not saying he's not competent because he's Mexican, he's suggesting that maybe given that Trump wants to build a wall, and at that point was talking about deportations, this judge of Mexican ancestry might be letting his personal feelings influence him. Now, I'll guarantee you that I know more about judges than anyone here. Most of them try very hard to be objective, but not all, and even those that try don't always succeed. Heck, I know a defense lawyer who became a judge and because he feels so badly about all the guilty people he helped set free he always leans on the side of the prosecution. So, like I said, stupid, yes, racist is a stretch.
    Oh, please Angela, this is crazy. We can as well excuse KKK racist crimes as stupidity, lazy thinking and no filter.

    Look I don't want to turn into an apologist for a man I couldn't vote for and whose election makes me very nervous,
    And yet you did. Perhaps your subconscious is acting up.

    but calling someone a racist should be reserved for those people whom we can know pretty convincingly wish to deny equal rights to other citizens based on their color, ethnic origin or religion...people like the David Dukes of the world, people like Senator Byrd, who was a card carrying member of the KKK, and yet whom Hillary Clinton eulogized, or the disgusting hypocrites like Strom Thurmond who voted again and again for segregation, but fathered a half black child. Otherwise, pretty soon that word won't mean anything at all.
    All always means the same.
    prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
    How can it lose the meaning?
    Did a word "murder or murderer" lost its meaning, though it is heard every day on news and movies?

    He might not be the Racist, just ordinary small r racist, but he is one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Republicans take everything. This is the greatest Republican victory in the U.S. since 1928 !!!
    Is it true that Hillary got more votes then Trump nationwide in what is called popular vote? SO what is the fuss about? My bewilderment is how can someone win a presidency with less votes nation wide? So much for proportional representation. So much for a greatest victory .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    Is it true that Hillary got more votes then Trump nationwide in what is called popular vote? SO what is the fuss about? My bewilderment is how can someone win a presidency with less votes nation wide? So much for proportional representation. So much for a greatest victory <img src="http://cdn.eupedia.com/forum/images/smilies/main/grin.png" border="0" alt="" title="Grin" smilieid="491" class="inlineimg">.
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    The fuss is that Hillary won the popular vote by around 150,000 voters but Trump won the electoral college vote so Trump wins. At least according to George Takai. My cousins keep on posting petitions on Facebook to eliminate the Electorial college. http://www.ghantagiri.com/george-tak...lected-donald/

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    Originally Posted by Fire Haired14 I believe most of what Trump says is honest.
    I guess you mean example like grabbing women by the pussy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight View Post
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    The fuss is that Hillary won the popular vote by around 150,000 voters but Trump won the electoral college vote so Trump wins. At least according to George Takai. My cousins keep on posting petitions on Facebook to eliminate the Electorial college. http://www.ghantagiri.com/george-tak...lected-donald/
    excuse my ignorance. Popular vote is something I am hearing now. Does it really mean over all vote nationwide?

    added:- thanks for link. It seems it is. We had a law passed locally in the 80's that irrelevant (to what the USA term) electoral college, who gets 50% + 1 vote will win the election. I think that is more representative of a democratic process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    excuse my ignorance. Popular vote is something I am hearing now. Does it really mean over all vote nationwide?
    It's totally cool, each country is different. Popular vote is a ballot count of who voted for Hillary or Trump. Electorial Colledge is Geographical. Here is the map.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election/us2016/results

    added: You're welcome, perhaps that could be arranged via a petition :)

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    My cousins keep on posting petitions on Facebook to eliminate the Electorial college.
    Lex retro non agit but you can try this solution in 2020.

    I guess you mean example like grabbing women by the pussy?
    He said that in a private dirty chit-chat with his buddies.

    What's the big deal here. That he is a heterosexual man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Lex retro non agit but you can try this solution in 2020.



    He said that in a private dirty chit-chat with his buddies.

    What's the big deal here. That he is a heterosexual man?
    I totally understand, what's done is done.

    Im not too thrilled that statement was leaked, it could encourage predators especialy since how well he's doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Lex retro non agit but you can try this solution in 2020.
    Haha but admit it. No grand victory there like you are shouting about



    He said that in a private dirty chit-chat with his buddies.

    What's the big deal here. That he is a heterosexual man?
    Buddies? that put out in public. Nice Buddies :). Anyway you are deviating (kind of running out of steam). That was a naturel question to ask to someone who thinks that Trump is honest in all he says. Anything wrong? and notice I was so not politically correct. He did say it by the way. Awesome to have a president that brags about groping women at the age of 67 (I think?). Exciting times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    I guess you mean example like grabbing women by the pussy?
    have you seen him doing it? where you there? do you know the context?

    I know, such language is not political correct, even worse it is gross.

    Big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    Why didn't you address his statement about "not letting black people count his money" instead. "Lazy thinking" is one thing, how about "lazy doing" and not renting his apartments to blacks?

    And how does it stop a racist liking certain ethnicities and totally disrespect others? Didn't he referred to superiority of his family, like breeding stallions, or something like this?

    Everybody can make mistakes in quick judgment. However he had years to cool down and rethink all to rectify his angry outburst, but he didn't. Same as with Obama's birth certificate. I'm sure he still believes it was all rigged and he was right all along. He is conspiracy theorist after all. Mind, that in both these cases the "perpetrators" are blacks.

    Oh, please Angela, this is crazy. We can as well excuse KKK racist crimes as stupidity, lazy thinking and no filter.

    And yet you did. Perhaps your subconscious is acting up.


    All always means the same. How can it lose the meaning?
    Did a word "murder or murderer" lost its meaning, though it is heard every day on news and movies?

    He might not be the Racist, just ordinary small r racist, but he is one.
    Luckily you don't need to ask for asylum in Canada.

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    Arthur Laffer on Trump and tax reduction.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/e...ught-1.2564717

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    have you seen him doing it? where you there? do you know the context?

    I know, such language is not political correct, even worse it is gross.

    Big deal.
    are you always there and seeing them when you quote or refer to something? We know for sure it was his voice on tape and he admitted it and felt sorry for it. I know that some 8 women came over to say he did, not the house keeper Latina miss piggy tho. He didn't like her, and neither dog faced women. He dosent like them. But hey no Big deal....He is President, its really ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    Arthur Laffer on Trump and tax reduction.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/e...ught-1.2564717
    quoting:- They are comments I wouldn’t make but they don’t make me think any less of him as a potential president. ““I think of it as entertainment. I know you guys take it very personally but I just don’t.”

    How very interesting. Lets see how this entertainment is going to work through the oval office - exciting times ahead.........

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    Maleth,

    The USA is not one unitary nation, but a federation of 50 nations.

    This is why there is no really such a thing as "nationwide vote" there.

    When I wrote about great victory for Republicans I meant that they won not only the Presidency, but also the House of Representatives and the Senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Maleth,

    The USA is not one unitary nation, but a federation of 50 nations.

    This is why there is no really such a thing as "nationwide vote" there.

    When I wrote about great victory for Republicans I meant that they won not only the Presidency, but also the House of Representatives and the Senate.

    It is one country though. However I understand that is the system at present and nobody seem to have been much interested to change it. So be it. It could have worked both ways for each party. But the naked truth is Hillary got more votes over all. So the stunning victory and so on we are hearing is somehow bogus in the heart of hearts. ;)

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