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    If you think Donald Trump is the type of man to discuss foreign affairs and geopolitics with his wives, or that either of his wives would be capable of having such a discussion, much less that if either were even true he'd listen to their opinions, think again. He didn't marry either of them for their brains.

    That's like Palin saying she knows a lot about Russia because she can see it from Alaska.


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    Vote for a president of USA. 2016 election.

    Underestimating President Trump abilities and knowledge is a classic mistake of those smarty-pantses who believe that they are smarter than him and his supporters.
    Economic Numbers and Results are Impressive, and as of now is Delivering. The US is doing very well economically. Everybody should say: Thanks Mr President. (Ungrateful ...)
    Filter out the Tweets, the miscommunications, the fake media and opposition outrage. It’s all Empty Noise, and not that important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Underestimating President Trump abilities and knowledge is a classic mistake of those smarty-pantses who believe that they are smarter than him and his supporters.
    Economic Numbers and Results are Impressive, and as of now is Delivering. The US is doing very well economically. Everybody should say: Thanks Mr President. (Ungrateful ...)
    Filter out the Tweets, the miscommunications, the fake media and opposition outrage. It’s all Empty Noise, and not that important.
    I believe he is a very good broker, dealmaker, bluf your way into....Excellent.

    But the point is his ADHD behavior, no eye for context etc. An unguided missile. Until know wihout too much colleteral damage....But no garantee for the future.

    I prefer a wise and moderate statesman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    I believe he is a very good broker, dealmaker, bluf your way into....Excellent.

    But the point is his ADHD behavior, no eye for context etc. An unguided missile. Until know wihout too much colleteral damage....But no garantee for the future.

    I prefer a wise and moderate statesman!
    We rejected those Stiff Crawling Creatures of the Swamp, that you called “wise and moderate”.
    Their calm, feel good, apologetic behavior are not needed right now. Maybe in the future.
    Trump is trying to regain the lost wealth and jobs that the “Wise and Moderate leaders” lost to foreigners, and many of them got paid millions by foreign and domestic Entities, during and after they left office. They sold out.
    Being unpredictable, and unleashing to enemies and competitors when needed is hardly a Mental Condition. He’s fighting back.
    The creatures of the Swamp are behaving like Crazies, trying to create a non stop negative and Exaggerated view of President Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    We rejected those Stiff Crawling Creatures of the Swamp, that you called “wise and moderate”.
    Their calm, feel good, apologetic behavior are not needed right now. Maybe in the future.
    Trump is trying to regain the lost wealth and jobs that the “Wise and Moderate leaders” lost to foreigners, and many of them got paid millions by foreign and domestic Entities, during and after they left office. They sold out.
    Being unpredictable, and unleashing to enemies and competitors when needed is hardly a Mental Condition. He’s fighting back.
    The creatures of the Swamp are behaving like Crazies, trying to create a non stop negative and Exaggerated view of President Trump.
    Whatever other people say it doesn't change your holy believe in him doesn't it? It's the state of mind of the US these days pro or contra nothing in between....

    Where Winston Churchill, Charles de Gaulle,Theodoor Roosevelt , Jack Kennedy or Hemut Schmidt (to name some) apologetic, feel good etc. No. Buth they combined political will and strength with wisdom and prudentia. Trump lacks those traits.

    Buth not only you will probably suffer from his unguided missile but the rest of the world too.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Underestimating President Trump abilities and knowledge is a classic mistake of those smarty-pantses who believe that they are smarter than him and his supporters.
    Economic Numbers and Results are Impressive, and as of now is Delivering. The US is doing very well economically. Everybody should say: Thanks Mr President. (Ungrateful ...)
    Filter out the Tweets, the miscommunications, the fake media and opposition outrage. It’s all Empty Noise, and not that important.

    Trump has already set a standard that will leave a big mark for others to follow: In politics its not necessary to be politically correct to win. It will be a model for others to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    Whatever other people say it doesn't change your holy believe in him doesn't it? It's the state of mind of the US these days pro or contra nothing in between....

    Where Winston Churchill, Charles de Gaulle,Theodoor Roosevelt , Jack Kennedy or Hemut Schmidt (to name some) apologetic, feel good etc. No. Buth they combined political will and strength with wisdom and prudentia. Trump lacks those traits.

    Buth not only you will probably suffer from his unguided missile but the rest of the world too.....
    ... “Whatever other people say it doesn't change your negative believe of him doesn't it?”...
    We don’t know how Trump will be remembered, it’s too soon for that.
    I’m not an Unconditional Trump Defenders, but I don’t appreciate unfair attacks from the Unconditional Trump Bashers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... “Whatever other people say it doesn't change your negative believe of him doesn't it?”...
    We don’t know how Trump will be remembered, it’s too soon for that.
    I’m not an Unconditional Trump Defenders, but I don’t appreciate unfair attacks from the Unconditional Trump Bashers.
    In my opinion Trump is really different from his predecessors.... he promised to build a Mexico wall.. but... I really doubt that has been built.. maybe I’m wrong


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriele Pashaj View Post
    In my opinion Trump is really different from his predecessors.... he promised to build a Mexico wall.. but... I really doubt that has been built.. maybe I’m wrong
    No need to say that maybe you're wrong.
    Usually I’m wrong half the time, but don't tell anyone. LoL :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    No need to say that maybe you're wrong.
    Usually I’m wrong half the time, but don't tell anyone. LoL :)
    So... now there’s a wall between Mexico and the Usa!?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriele Pashaj View Post
    So... now there’s a wall between Mexico and the Usa!?
    They're building a new wall on the Mexican border near San Diego in California.
    There are older barriers and fences in many places alongside the Border.

    https://nypost.com/2018/06/02/trumps...-in-san-diego/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    They're building a new wall on the Mexican border near San Diego in California.
    There are older barriers and fences in many places alongside the Border.

    https://nypost.com/2018/06/02/trumps...-in-san-diego/
    Thanks for the info ! I’ll read it ! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    :19:
    Guess What?

    https://www.f35.com/global/participa...-participation

    I’m sure they are invisible, after all they are Made in Italy too. :) LoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Guess What?

    https://www.f35.com/global/participa...-participation

    I’m sure they are invisible, after all they are Made in Italy too. :) LoL
    did you see those faces behind the president when he kept saying its invisible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    did you see those faces behind the president when he kept saying its invisible?
    I did, it is funny.
    To be fair the video is edited, and doesn’t show what Trump was doing.
    He was pitching in, and showing off one of the F35 capabilities (radar invisibility) to potential International buyers.
    “The Salesman in Chief in Action.” :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Notice that I specifically wrote:
    Point of view of the “Trumpsters (Trump supporters)”, and “Trump Movement”,
    I didn’t say: Trump point of view is..., but he did say:
    ..... "It's obsolete, first because it was designed many, many years ago," Trump was quoted as saying about NATO. "Secondly, ...
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...to-is-obsolete
    Now he says he's changed his mind about NATO. (imo he didn’t, POLITICS ......)
    Your video It's Trump way to call the Merkel a hypocrite. Believe me, 100%. :)
    (He also want Germany to buy Gas from the US.)
    Salento, there is an rule. In a capitalistic society when there is an economic crisis, the conflict becomes inevitable. Because, to get out of the crisis, need control over raw materials and markets.
    Here there is much to say, but if we want to simplify the situation as much as possible and focus only on the international situation, we can say that in the last two centuries, in this battlefield that is called Europe, there are always three powers or groups of powers that clash with each other. There is a preparatory phase, where there is an intensive diplomatic activity and then when two of the three, find the agreement, attack the third. In my opinion this the big picture and this is what is happening even now.

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    @LABERIA
    There is no crisis in the United States, the opposite.
    Unemployment is at historical low levels, and the latest GDP grew at 4.1 percent.
    People are happy, with many experiencing an Economic Boom.
    The Media and the Press exaggerates negativity in the US.
    The Image of the US situation portrayed in the Media is FALSE.
    Most people live day-to-day life, and are only interested in politics a couple of weeks before we go to vote. They don’t care about BS.
    About the International Economic Trade Imbalances:
    many Nations, China included are still labeled as developing countries, they have benefited of extra economic and trade benefits assigned years ago to help them grow.
    China and others, are not longer developing country, but the old trade deals are still in place.
    A Renegotiation on Trade is needed, now that this Countries are Stronger. They can’t take advantage of an old temporary help in trade Forever.
    The US economy has grown by over 30% since Trump took office. Impressive!
    A BIAS Media doesn’t improve our standard of living, only an Economic Growth can do that.

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    I know quite a few young single educated women that voted for Trump. They are tired of political parties and felt that Trump was not really the same as either party. Other women with children joining the work force and unable to find a job, wanted jobs back in the US and back in the decimated areas that had typically afforded the chance for young people to find a job, but have lost all of their industries to other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheal View Post
    I know quite a few young single educated women that voted for Trump. They are tired of political parties and felt that Trump was not really the same as either party. Other women with children joining the work force and unable to find a job, wanted jobs back in the US and back in the decimated areas that had typically afforded the chance for young people to find a job, but have lost all of their industries to other countries.
    Some people just can't wrap their heads around the fact that usually "It's the economy, stupid."

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    Vote for a president of USA. 2016 election.

    In case some of you are not familiar with:
    “It's the economy, stupid", it
    means that what’s important to most voters are jobs, growth, good economy and trade.
    Last edited by Salento; 04-08-18 at 02:20.

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    A President can only be impeached for events that took place after taking office, not before
    Nobody ever says this, but that’s why Rudy said that President Trump won’t be Impeached.
    It’s true that Congress decides what’s an Impeachable offense.
    If Congress disregards that: in the future even if Jesus comes down from the Cross, runs for President and wins, He could be impeached for Destruction of Property and Sedition for what he did inside the Temple in Jerusalem 2000 years ago.

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    They could try, which I suppose could wind up going all the way up to the Supreme Court, which is part of why the upcoming confirmation fight is important for everyone.

    I'm of the opinion, and always have been, even when it was Clinton, that impeachment should be reserved for "HIGH" crimes and misdemeanors while in office.

    I didn't think lying even under oath about whether you've had a sexual relationship with a woman not your wife qualified. Nor do I think paying a woman not to go public about an affair qualifies, even if it was done while the President was in office. In this particular case, not only was it before he was in office, but it's unclear to me that it really was in violation of campaign finance laws.

    If there is proof that he personally covered up about his actual personal collusion with Russia to "fix" the election that would be an entirely different matter. I don't see any evidence "so far" that this was the case.

    None of this has anything to do with the fact that both Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are, imo, disgusting dogs with no personal morality worth discussing. Nor does it have anything to do with whether or not individual measures and laws or their other activities as Chief Executive of the U.S. were good or bad for the country.

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