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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I guess with 20.000 votes, even shrinking, Biden is pretty well out of the danger zone.

    And the irony is that this is the part were the Trump supporters screamed count count count and in Pennsylvania they shouted stop stop stop.

    I could well be that the widow of mc Cain campaigned for Biden, Mc Cain one of the grand old man of the Republicans is one of the people severely humiliated by Trump....could be the reason of some loss.

    By the way this state has a republican governor, so machinations by Democrats!???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post

    Georgia has announced a recount a few hours ago

    plus the many affidavits by people working in the election checking in Philadelphia, Arizona and Wisconsin are being determined if a need for recount in these states is necessary...................from what I got from BBC news, there cannot be concession by Trump until the 20th of December due to other parts of the voting process
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Ironically, in the Godfather, the consigliere was Germanic:



    Even more ironic is the actor that played the godfather was was German, Dutch, English, and Irish:

    Indeed nothing is certain in this life ;) .....even not the roles in the (movie kind of) mob....;)

    One of my favorite movies! Very insightful. It's been partly the reason for me to visit Sicily (such a colorful and historic island!).

    Speaking of.... I guess see other postings here I'm subject of "omerta": if the arguments fail, there is only the duty of silence Jovialis ROFLOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    From European perspective i'm glad that Biden is chosen. .. And the Europeans must take more responsibility for themselves. No doubt.

    But it's also important that Biden sets another tone, that is against authoritarians like Putin, Erdogan, Orban etc. and does not admire and/or support them like Trump has done....
    That was interesting. Can you elaborate a bit more on this please... How do you, as a North Westerner, see the American engagement in European and Middle-Eastern affairs if JB-KH make it to the White House? What do you hope for and most importantly how do you expect it to be achieved ? How do you envisage the European contribution in these matters ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    No one's leaving, ... yet.
    ... the real Election is December 14.

    ... Almost finished, ... about 350+ miles built, ... some by the Army Corps of Engineers.

    The border is 1954 miles. The wall that has been built so far is basically replacing the wall that was already there. By October 29 2020, 400 miles (640 km) had been built, all but about nine miles being replacement of existing outdated or dilapidated barriers.[

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    It seems that lately Republicans leave a crappy economy to the Dems to deal with. Not only does Biden have to do something about Covid-19 itself but he has to heal the economy itself. The poor guy has his work cut out for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    What the ....

    Michele Flournoy is taking Defence Affairs?

    Not a wise move.
    We might face a division among NATO and EU. Especially the last.



    I changed my post cause I decided to express myshelf as polite, by mind, and not by heart.
    All of those names that are floating around are sheer speculation by journalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    All of those names that are floating around are sheer speculation by journalists.
    names carry history

    she has


    btw
    just look the changes that started before even the new chair be on eggshape office
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    Trump's meltdown over his loss is 786473 times worse than what Democrats did in 2016.

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    These are the disparities between Biden and Trump, in states are within the 1% difference:

    GA - 10,620


    AZ - 17,131


    WI - 20,540


    PA - 45,222

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    All of those names that are floating around are sheer speculation by journalists.
    Bigsnake, it is obvious,

    Micael Carpenter interview is just a repeat with Michelle Flournoy.

    tottaly the new era is USA via NATO to play 'the boss' of EU, turning EU to a protectorat via NATO.
    we might see division and end of NATO or EU.

    before 2016 Trump I said I liked his vision, today I find him a liitle tiny boy,
    as for Biden, my fear is after Clinton era there is a move inside that likes violent and totall destruction,
    a move that started with Madleine, and now the carrier is Flournoy.

    I hope the old man has seen the world the last 4 years, and tottaly ignore her.
    cause if not he will make EU bigger enemy than Russia is.

    Situation is more serious. Islamic Brotherhood will swim at the sea of Happiness if Biden makes this policy.
    we might see a WW3 at Europe. or Europe split from NATO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post


    These are the disparities between Biden and Trump, in states are within the 1% difference:

    GA - 10,620


    AZ - 17,131


    WI - 20,540


    PA - 45,222
    What some people just won't accept is that roughly half the country voted for Trump despite all his terrible flaws. If they ignore that fact and proceed as if they have a mandate for drastic change, things will only get worse.

    Democrats who couldn't accept the results of the election for four years, would never speak of him as President Trump etc., won't give Trump three weeks to show his supporters he'll make sure these states go as predicted. This kind of thing is why I hate all politicians and all political parties.

    Saw a funny line: After a few days Hillary conceded, and then tried to stage a coup for four years. :)

    I also find it amusing that after saying that, what, 49% of the country are stupid, traitors, and racists they want everybody to hug and sing kumbaya. It works the same way in reverse of course.

    Hypocrisy is everywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Bigsnake, it is obvious,

    Micael Carpenter interview is just a repeat with Michelle Flournoy.

    tottaly the new era is USA via NATO to play 'the boss' of EU, turning EU to a protectorat via NATO.
    we might see division and end of NATO or EU.

    before 2016 Trump I said I liked his vision, today I find him a liitle tiny boy,
    as for Biden, my fear is after Clinton era there is a move inside that likes violent and totall destruction,
    a move that started with Madleine, and now the carrier is Flournoy.

    I hope the old man has seen the world the last 4 years, and tottaly ignore her.
    cause if not he will make EU bigger enemy than Russia is.

    Situation is more serious. Islamic Brotherhood will swim at the sea of Happiness if Biden makes this policy.
    we might see a WW3 at Europe. or Europe split from NATO.

    ""Situation is more serious. Islamic Brotherhood will swim at the sea of Happiness if Biden makes this policy.
    we might see a WW3 at Europe. or Europe split from NATO."" ...........What do you mean by this ? What policy do you think Biden will make ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorquest View Post
    ""Situation is more serious. Islamic Brotherhood will swim at the sea of Happiness if Biden makes this policy.
    we might see a WW3 at Europe. or Europe split from NATO."" ...........What do you mean by this ? What policy do you think Biden will make ?
    I mean exactly what I listen from US news.
    and compare it with the history and position of each,
    and the broadcast that each 'thinking tank' is providing.

    Biden is in middle of 3 moves or as known thinking tanks.
    and of his 'advisors' not even before the oath, has raise the finger against EU.

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    the 'big fraud' episode...:

    • The Trump campaign's new major lawsuit in Pennsylvania alleges that voter fraud potentially happened in only two counties.
    • Both counties, Fayette and Luzerne, voted for President Donald Trump.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...true&r=US&IR=T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    the 'big fraud' episode...:

    • The Trump campaign's new major lawsuit in Pennsylvania alleges that voter fraud potentially happened in only two counties.
    • Both counties, Fayette and Luzerne, voted for President Donald Trump.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...true&r=US&IR=T
    This is from the article you posted:

    The lawsuit doesn't name Luzerne County or Fayette County as defendants, but it does go after the election boards in the counties of Allegheny, Centre, Chester, Delaware, Montgomery, Northampton, and Philadelphia — all based on allegations of irregularities from anonymous poll watchers and election watchers. Voters in all those counties preferred Biden to Trump, according to Decision Desk HQ data.

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    I will only say this much: If the courts decide the win is Trump's... lock your doors
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    Quote Originally Posted by firetown View Post
    I will only say this much: If the courts decide the win is Trump's... lock your doors
    Good advice, it would probably bring this country to the brink of civil war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Good advice, it would probably bring this country to the brink of civil war.



    hm,
    Did the oracle said that?
    Yes she did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    This is from the article you posted:
    Jovialis this is all no big fraud, and nowhere there is a large scale fraud proven. That's simply the case. So the supposed Democratic machinations are simply a hoax.

    But in the meantime this causes a lot of dust and commotion, exactly what Trumps seem to aim.

    Now it's in a following phase because now is the Pentagon at stake...!

    The facts are that 75 vs 70 million have voted for Biden and that the margins in the states are not small enough to create another outcome.

    Trump simply denies the will of the majority of the voters....this has the potential to make America political lame or even worse....

    And that in the midst of a severe crisis. Totally irresponsible IMO.

    I hope the democratic system in the US is strong enough to overcome this blow.

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    ... not long ago, Italians abroad lost their right to vote for a few years, ... mail in voting fraud,

    supposedly I voted, although I never got my mai-in ballots, ... twice in a row!

    ... just sayin’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... not long ago, Italians abroad lost their right to vote for a few years, ... mail in voting fraud,

    supposedly I voted, although I never got my mai-in ballots, ... twice in a row!

    ... just sayin’
    So this means that an indictment has not to be proven? That's pretty basic. At least in more or less civilized democratic countries. Or are ypu already living in a banana republic? I hope (and still think!) not....but time will tell.

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