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    Quote Originally Posted by firetown View Post
    We all need to focus on what we can be. Not what is bad. This is the Animal Farm syndrome or the movement that led to the Weimarer Republic. The masses are easily convinced that what they have is responsible for whatever is bad in their lives so after they are manipulated into support, they find themselves in much deeper misery having made decisions based on hatred and jealousy.
    Imo there were a whole hell of a lot of people who supported most of Trump's policies but couldn't bring themselves to vote for him as a man and a president. That's what the media and the Democrats have to understand. This is at least a fifty fifty country, and actually, in terms of positions it's probably sixty forty or more center/right, and that's in American terms, not European ones. A less flawed man, with the same message and without the racist label with which he's been branded could have put together a working class/ middle class coalition of whites, Hispanics and probably 20% or more blacks, leaving the Democrat party to the elites and the underclass.

    I think it will happen. They just need to find the right populist candidate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Imo there were a whole hell of a lot of people who supported most of Trump's policies but couldn't bring themselves to vote for him as a man and a president. That's what the media and the Democrats have to understand. This is at least a fifty fifty country, and actually, in terms of positions it's probably sixty forty or more center/right, and that's in American terms, not European ones. A less flawed man, with the same message and without the racist label with which he's been branded could have put together a working class/ middle class coalition of whites, Hispanics and probably 20% or more blacks, leaving the Democrat party to the elites and the underclass.

    I think it will happen. They just need to find the right populist candidate.
    I can't help but thinking back to 1992 when Ross Perot ran, who I believe had all the right policies planned. However, he wasn't appealing to the public. He didn't make the types of headlines Trump made. In the end, he just went away. Not because of the policies, but because he didn't have "an audience".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    a few months ago, my Town was proclaimed as one of the best places to live in the US (in the top 15),

    the America where I live is magnificent!

    under President Trump we did amazingly well, and we still do in spite of COVID-19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firetown View Post
    I can't help but thinking back to 1992 when Ross Perot ran, who I believe had all the right policies planned. However, he wasn't appealing to the public. He didn't make the types of headlines Trump made. In the end, he just went away. Not because of the policies, but because he didn't have "an audience".
    You need a showman, a good campaigner, as well as the right message. Plus, third party candidates will never make it in my opinion.

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    This is an interview with David Shor, self proclaimed Socialist, statistician, and former employee of a Democratic consulting firm working to get Democrats elected to public office. He was fired for tweeting about a paper which found that wide spread rioting helped elect Richard Nixon. Being woke means ignoring or indeed denying obvious facts, apparently. It hasn't done him any harm in terms of his career, apparently. He's all over the place in the media, and getting new clients.

    Our political orientations are very different, but I agree with almost everything he says in the following interview: his analysis of the parties, what sways elections, how to create a governing majority etc. It's a brilliant analysis, imo, and if the Democrats don't want to lose the House in two years they should pay attention. I just can't believe he was the only Democrat activist who saw it.

    In one moment of complete honesty, he said that ads and door to door canvassing no longer work. It's the painting of the broader narrative, which is done by the media, which will increasingly determine elections. He also says, again, very honestly, that the media is run by left leaning elites and they were the ones who were creating the narrative. They destroyed Trump personally, but they also unwittingly turned off a good segment of the white working and lower middle class, and even a good segment of the Hispanic community. Heck, Trump got more black votes than any Republican before him. The narrative they pushed, including the "Defund the Police" narrative, giving so much air time to "The Squad" and other far left politicians including Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, and running coverage of the riots, which couldn't be completely ignored, had the opposite effect on down ticket votes, and is why Republicans did much better in the House than President Trump.

    It starts at about 5 minutes in...

    https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-go...ction-79755125

    The Republican Senatorial candidates in Pennsylvania should hope Trump doesn't go down to campaign. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    It's not clear at all, ... we will find out.

    it makes total sense to investigate alleged wrongdoing.
    And the conclusion:
    https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-w...1a9061a6c7f49d

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    ... your timing is off by about 2 weeks, ... no conclusion!

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    Hate to say I told you so...but I told you so! :)

    "(((David Shor)))

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    Majority Hispanic districts swung toward Trump in 2020, but Democratic House incumbents (Henry Cuellar notably excepted) generally underperformed Biden on top of that, pointing to potential shifts in Hispanic party identification rather than specific attitudes toward Trump/Biden"

    Also, a top George Soros associate, along with tons of Silicon Valley types are going to be in the Biden Administration. Look forward to more and more globalization and more and more decimation of the working and lower middle class if they take the Senate.

    Also, a bill was quietly passed (pushed by Silicon Valley) to make it easier to higher Indian and Chinese tech people. They don't give a damn about Americans. Foreigners should be given visas ONLY if it is proved that no Americans are available. They just want to pay lower wages.

    Never trust billionaires of any political party who say they want to help everyday, working people.


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    Michio Kaku (in Japanese 加來道雄) ( San José , 24 of January of 1947 ) is a theoretical physicist US . He is a professor and co-creator of string field theory, a branch of string theory , that would come to help explain the so-called Theory of Everything , sought by many physicists throughout our history, including Albert Einstein .

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    Michio Kaku is being hypocritical, he’s American educated, and he’s American born.
    He’s a product of the same system that he’s criticizing, ...and he did very well.

    ... got his book :)



    It's normal for a Country to attract well educated minds.

    ... how do you think I got here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Michio Kaku is being hypocritical, he’s American educated, and he’s American born.
    He’s a product of the same system that he’s criticizing, ...and he did very well.

    ... got his book :)



    It's normal for a Country to attract well educated minds.

    ... how do you think I got here
    Hi Salento. Lol
    I understand you. I punctuated the opinion of a well-known American. Of course, my intention was to create controversy, but in fact I have no way to oppose or agree since I do not know in depth the aspects of science education in schools in the United States. But I have to admit that his position (a notable American) greatly affects the choice of a foreigner like me, for example, from the English-speaking country to which you want to send your child for an educational and language exchange. My son went to Canada.

    Cheers dear friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Hi Salento. Lol
    I understand you. I punctuated the opinion of a well-known American. Of course, my intention was to create controversy, but in fact I have no way to oppose or agree since I do not know in depth the aspects of science education in schools in the United States. But I have to admit that his position (a notable American) greatly affects the choice of a foreigner like me, for example, from the English-speaking country to which you want to send your child for an educational and language exchange. My son went to Canada.

    Cheers dear friend.

    ... good luck getting into Yale, ...

    before Covid, my State was flooded with foreign Students, ... they came to America to get the best Education that money can buy, (State residents pay less)

    ... as far as elementary, middle, and high school education goes, There are cities that invest in public schools and others that do not, ... if parents care about their children’s’ education and if they can afford it, they’ll move.

    .. life is unfair, ... survival of the fittest :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... good luck getting into Yale, ...

    before Covid, my State was flooded with foreign Students, ... they came to America to get the best Education that money can buy, (State residents pay less)

    ... as far as elementary, middle, and high school education goes, There are cities that invest in public schools and others that do not, ... if parents care about their children’s’ education and if they can afford it, they’ll move.

    .. life is unfair, ... survival of the fittest :)
    It is true. Only the fittest survive. This is not a law of the jungle. It is a law of nature.

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    People, including Americans, talk a lot of crap about American education.

    Five of the top ten science universities in the world are in the U.S., 1 in Australia, 1 in Germany, I in Ireland, and 2 in England (Oxford and Cambridge).

    https://gazettereview.com/2016/09/to...rsities-world/

    Top academic prep schools in the world:
    https://www.ranker.com/list/best-pre...d/school-buddy

    The vast majority are in the U.S.

    That's all you have to know.

    As for public schools, as Salento implied, if you live in an upper middle or upper class neighborhood, you cannot get a finer education anywhere in the world.

    If you remove the scores for African Americans and Hispanics, American students outscore Europeans and in some cases even East Asians.

    What left wing academics do is look at the average scores, which include all the scores from the underclass. They would never break out the scores by ethnicity for fear of being accused of racism. Easier to attack the system which produced you.

    In addition to that, in Europe they test early, and students who aren't up to further academic learning are shuttled into tech schools, tourism, etc. For some of these PISA tests, those students aren't even tested. *

    BTW, that's one thing we could learn from Europe. Here, children are in college prep courses who can never do college level work.

    This leads to the abomination I just saw in the news about Peter Stuyvesant High School in NYC. It's a public high school which requires high test scores for entry. It's free and yet one of the finest science and math high schools in the world. Black activists are demanding open admissions on the grounds the school solidifies "white privilege". Guess what: it's 75% Asian. Razib Khan wanted to know if he's now an honorary white. :)

    If you can't pass the entrance exam to a school like this then you won't be able to absorb what they're teaching. Period.

    My Catholic prep school tested too, and then used the scores to "track" the students. Each track took their courses together. Girls who needed a little extra help or time got it. Those who could move quickly were challenged and wound up taking college courses in senior year. That's the way it should be, imo, but it would require admitting that nature isn't fair, and not everyone is equally intelligent. People should stop excoriating teachers for not being able to do the impossible.

    Why can't people just be rational when looking at these kinds of things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... your timing is off by about 2 weeks, ... no conclusion!
    Do you expect another conclusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northener View Post
    Do you expect another conclusion?
    ... be patient, we shall find out together in a few days :)

    ... and be nice and pray for Rudy, ... is in the Hospital !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... be patient, we all find out together in a few days :)

    ... and be nice and pray for Rudy, ... is in the Hospital !
    You mean the electoral college?

    I have all patience the future of my country is not at stake....the question is if POTUS has dealt with reality already....we will see.

    Rudy has covid? Such things always hit the good guys....my thoughts are with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... be patient, we shall find out together in a few days :)

    ... and be nice and pray for Rudy, ... is in the Hospital !
    Rudy's daughter did not exactly cheer him on, did she? What did she say, stop lying, stop whining and stop using hair dye?

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    ... that sounds like something everybody tells their parents at some point in their life, ... not me of course, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    Rudy's daughter did not exactly cheer him on, did she? What did she say, stop lying, stop whining and stop using hair dye?
    strange... usually daughters tell dads they should dye away the grey
    she seems strange on more than one level

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    It's an old and banal story: father cheats on wife with a woman he then marries. Children side with the embittered and angry wife/mother.

    I by no means condone adultery, and I know what it does to family relationships, but no partner in a marriage is ever fully to blame. Plus, she really had no grounds for complaint on moral grounds. She and Giuliani were having an affair while he was still married to his first wife. As a long time observer of the New York scene, my take on it is that Rudy has married two horrible women in a row. The third wife/former mistress, Judith Nathan, is a monster, the worst of them. That she has even further alienated his two children by the second wife should be a surprise to no one. He ultimately divorced her too, but she's getting 42,000 a month in alimony; not too bad for a former receptionist.

    Like I said, absolutely no taste in women, except perhaps for the first one, even if he was a great Attorney General for the Southern District.

    The daughter is no prize either; arrested forshop lifting more than once, I think, although I may be wrong about that; maybe some were hushed up. She's strange on a lot of levels, but I'll leave it at that. Whatever her alienation from her father, that kind of comment when he has a life threatening illness, indeed when anyone has a life threatening illness, is petty and in the worst possible taste. Donna Hanover did a terrible job with those kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... be patient, we shall find out together in a few days :)

    ... and be nice and pray for Rudy, ... is in the Hospital !
    .... in one sentence from the Supreme Court....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    ... be patient, we shall find out together in a few days :)

    ... and be nice and pray for Rudy, ... is in the Hospital !
    In the end.....
    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55311990

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    What exactly are you celebrating?

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