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    There are worse politicians than Gunnlaugsson. Accusers are not always benevolent. Hope icelanders did not start a "nordic spring" for peanuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    It is only strange for you, because you thought the West is rotten. I was telling you that generally speaking US is good and honest. Now you have the proof. Or maybe it is American conspiracy? ;)

    I'm glad it was published. Now we will know who is dishonest citizen or a leader.

    There are 7 chinese leaders families listed. Panama papers are blocked by government in China! And of course Putin!

    Edit: Putin probably doesn't need it, but his close friends are quite unsure of Putin's friendship and have plan B ready.
    Edit2: Well, it might be directly about Putin anyway. Kremlin spokesman was overly defensive:
    In Kremlin's eyes panama papers are only about Putin, lol.


    Juicy details will be published in a month:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/04...n_9608364.html
    I'm certain there will be cherriepicking in the names that will be released and that will not.
    I haven't heared any names of common criminals yet.
    And as you state, there are certain persons who don't need that kind of constructions because they make the laws in their own country themselves.

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    Seems like the hype around the "biggest leak in history" has already faded.
    It is possible that the majority of these off-shore cases to avoid taxes are legal. It is well-known and often criticized, but not illegal if done right. Foundations serve the same purpose, it is the preferred method of the 1%.

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    It's not the legality or illegality of it; it's the hypocrisy. If I were living in a country where they wanted to take 90% of my earned income, I'd try to shelter it somewhere else if I could too.

    The point is whether the politicians or celebrities doing that are also publicly proclaiming income equality. How many western political leaders or celebrities are advocating high tax rates for other people, but trying to avoid them personally? How many Communist leaders are touting the equality of their systems while hiding millions and millions offshore for their own use? How many tin pot dictators?

    People have a right to know, and they will. It's already gone out onto servers all over the world.


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    Ok then, we learned that politicians are hypocrites. Still hypocrites who point fingers at other hypocrites, are double-hypocrites. The data have been preprocessed for one year. We don't know who has been removed from the data. I think it was in the wrong hands.

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    in a previous post I wrote something about prostitution at Roman empire, Pompei,

    Julius (my favorite hawk, Aurelian nose) ceasar try to restore Roman family to older ethos, to previous customs of morality,
    and he pushed some laws about Roman wifes,

    today in Greece we have a moto that left from that time,

    Η του καισαρος γυνη δει τιμια φαινετε, ου μονoν ειναι

    meaning that ceasars wife, must also look honest, not only be,

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    tragic isn't it?
    lesson for morality, from someone that his country politicians only look honest, but not they are.
    ΟΘΕΝ ΑΙΔΩΣ OY EINAI
    ΑΤΗ ΛΑΜΒΑΝΕΙΝ ΑΥΤΟΙΣ
    ΥΒΡΙΣ ΓΕΝΝΑΤΑΙ
    ΝΕΜΕΣΙΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΙΣΗ ΑΚΟΛΟΥΘΟΥΣΙ ΔΕ

    When there is no shame
    Divine blindness conquers them
    Hybris (abuse, opprombium) is born
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    Εχε υπομονη Ηρωα
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    It's not the legality or illegality of it; it's the hypocrisy. If I were living in a country where they wanted to take 90% of my earned income, I'd try to shelter it somewhere else if I could too.

    The point is whether the politicians or celebrities doing that are also publicly proclaiming income equality. How many western political leaders or celebrities are advocating high tax rates for other people, but trying to avoid them personally? How many Communist leaders are touting the equality of their systems while hiding millions and millions offshore for their own use? How many tin pot dictators?

    People have a right to know, and they will. It's already gone out onto servers all over the world.
    In some cases there might be legality and tax evasion issue. Ownership of foreign assets should be declared and income tax paid on gains. Obviously these small tax havens are used mostly for that purpose. Other reasons are money laundering and trading accounts to avoid sanctions.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    It's not the legality or illegality of it; it's the hypocrisy. If I were living in a country where they wanted to take 90% of my earned income, I'd try to shelter it somewhere else if I could too.

    The point is whether the politicians or celebrities doing that are also publicly proclaiming income equality. How many western political leaders or celebrities are advocating high tax rates for other people, but trying to avoid them personally? How many Communist leaders are touting the equality of their systems while hiding millions and millions offshore for their own use? How many tin pot dictators?

    People have a right to know, and they will. It's already gone out onto servers all over the world.
    talking about hypocrisy

    these people don't need an acount in Panama :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBVFpYN0iNo

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