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    Growing importance of the sun vitamin, D3.

    27 diseases linked to vitamin D deficiencies, and counting.
    http://www.health.com/mind-body/vitamin-d-health-risks

    Obesity
    Diabetes
    Insulin resistance
    Heart disease
    Lupus
    Preterm birth
    Multiple Sclerosis
    PMS
    Inflammatory bowel disease
    Alopecia and hair loss
    Eczema
    Tooth decay in infants and toddlers
    Gum disease and tooth loss
    Alzheimer's and dementia
    Schizophrenia
    Depression
    Urinary Tract infections
    Female incontinence
    Asthma
    Colorectal cancer
    Breast cancer
    Pancreatic cancer
    Prostate cancer
    Osteoporosis
    Rickets
    Erectile dysfunction
    Childhood language impairmant
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    27 diseases linked to vitamin D deficiencies, and counting.
    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medi...cid=spartandhp
    I would presume that it would effect people differently according to the amount of melanin present in the skin and the natural availiabilty in the food one eats visa vi the type of environment they happen to live in. It has taken thousands of years for the body to adapt to the climate they live in. This is before moving around has become so much easier and the melanin levels in a persons skin do not correspond with vitamin D available in newly settled environments, both in terms of Sunlight and diet available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    I would presume that it would effect people differently according to the amount of melanin present in the skin and the natural availiabilty in the food one eats visa vi the type of environment they happen to live in. It has taken thousands of years for the body to adapt to the climate they live in. This is before moving around has become so much easier and the melanin levels in a persons skin do not correspond with vitamin D available in newly settled environments, both in terms of Sunlight and diet available.
    It was balanced like this till 100 years ago when people spent more time outside, in mostly farming lifestyle. Modern civilization "destroyed" the balance. We spend way too much time inside buildings in city settings and use sunscreen not to get skin cancer when we are outside. All of this leads to deficiency of vitamin D3, especially in higher latitudes. It could have been even worse if not so many foods like milk and cereals being fortified with this vitamin these days.
    I have found myself in such pickle suffering for few years with rheumatoid arthritis and alopecia, till I figured out what was the problem. Not mentioning weak gums. I take supplement of D3 now and these maladies of mine are gone. :)
    The funny thing is that I was kicked out by my family doctor for demanding a test for D3, to see if I'm taking enough or maybe too much. He was convinced that all of this wasn't related to D3, but me getting old and my body wearing out, and that I'm hurting myself taking supplements. He's out of my life for good, I wouldn't want this stupid quack to be my family doctor anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    I take supplement of D3 now and these maladies of mine are gone. :)
    The funny thing is that I was kicked out by my family doctor for demanding a test for D3, to see if I'm taking enough or maybe too much. He was convinced that all of this wasn't related to D3, but me getting old and my body wearing out, and that I'm hurting myself taking supplements. He's out of my life for good, I wouldn't want this stupid quack to be my family doctor anymore.
    I guess the lack or overdose and certain Vitamins will always be a concern and unfortunately there are no home kits yet for one to know with any particular ease. I think for vitamin D overdose there are some signs which can indicate so, like weight loss and nausea. As much as I used to believe that one should never be their own doctor, I have learned that one also needs to do some well informed adjustments as my impression is (at least locally) that doctors seem to go very much by the book irrelevant that everyone has a different case for a particular complain. I believe that a doctor should be sensitive to his clients concern and one measure fits all does not always work...but for them its the easiest way out.

    I would neither be happy with my family doctor if they did not show a degree of sensitiveness especially knowing that you would be also knowledgeable on the subject. I suffered with IBS for two years seeing two doctors (and a specialist in hospital) who offered no effective treatment until I decided to visit an Allergy doctor (the forth doctor) and suggested probiotics that have actually made a world of difference. I wonder how none of the others never even thought about that. So there you go. You need to find a doctor you can trust and feel comfortable with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    I guess the lack or overdose and certain Vitamins will always be a concern and unfortunately there are no home kits yet for one to know with any particular ease. I think for vitamin D overdose there are some signs which can indicate so, like weight loss and nausea.
    I believe that balance and moderation always needs to be observed for a healthy body. However in this case, I learned that it is hard to overdose D3. Only in some cases with genetic predisposition making people "sensitive" to D3. In general terms, D3 is stored in a liver, and later distributed to the rest of the body as needed. A regulatory system to store the access/overdose. It is produced in huge quantities in our skin. 30 min in the sun can produce 100,000 IU. Which is huge when compared to 500-5000 IU people are taking daily. The biggest mystery is to figure out optimal natural daily level. Is it 1,000 or 10,000?. There is growing consensus that it might be closer to 5,000 for an average person.


    I used to believe that one should never be their own doctor
    Yes and no. Yes, for nobody knows my body like myself and see changes with time. No, for hypochondriacs and deeply spiritual. They will poison their bodies with 100s of herbal and not remedies.


    I have learned that one also needs to do some well informed adjustments as my impression is (at least locally) that doctors seem to go very much by the book irrelevant that everyone has a different case for a particular complain. I believe that a doctor should be sensitive to his clients concern and one measure fits all does not always work...but for them its the easiest way out.
    Best doctor is also best detective. Unfortunately it is rarely the case. I'm sure, family doctors will be replaced by cheap tests and diagnostic software in not so far future. Perhaps all running on your smartphone. :)

    I would neither be happy with my family doctor if they did not show a degree of sensitiveness especially knowing that you would be also knowledgeable on the subject. I suffered with IBS for two years seeing two doctors (and a specialist in hospital) who offered no effective treatment until I decided to visit an Allergy doctor (the forth doctor) and suggested probiotics that have actually made a world of difference. I wonder how none of the others never even thought about that. So there you go. You need to find a doctor you can trust and feel comfortable with.
    My friend had this too. His gut microbiota was destroyed by years of heavy antibiotic rounds.

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    Amazing lecture about importance of sleep and healthy blood level of vitamin D3. I don't agree with everything, but most is a brilliant detective work of Dr Stasha Gominak.

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    D3 is not useful without K2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatherland View Post
    D3 is not useful without K2.
    You sort of know stuff, sort of...

    In building bones perhaps but not necessarily in other functions. Vitamin D3 has many. Secondly, why are you saying this, is general public vitamin K2 deficient?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    You sort of know stuff, sort of...

    In building bones perhaps but not necessarily in other functions. Vitamin D3 has many. Secondly, why are you saying this, is general public vitamin K2 deficient?
    I am indeed suggesting that is the case. D3 and K2 is a golden combo.

    K2 proteins prevent vascular calcification from residual Calcium or buildup and guides it to where it belongs - the bones. D3 helps with the absorption of Calcium.

    It is also proven to reduce cases of osteoporosis at older ages.

    https://www.science.gov/topicpages/v...mentation.html

    http://www.lindsayrusk.ca/blog/the-d...out-vitamin-k2

    I supplement with D3 + K2 and also add Kale to my meals for that extra K2(Kale is actually K1 but converts to K2 in the gut bacteria of mammals).

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    You'll be old bones without K2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fustan View Post
    You'll be old bones without K2.
    D3 is not only used in building bones, it serves many more biological functions in our body, like in proper functioning of neurons and inner working of every cell.
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-a-difference/

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    I'd add autism to the list too.

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