Origin of PF1975/E1b-Z830-2nd

[John Doe]

Have been confirmed by FTDNA as E-Z827, ordered the E-Z827 downstream pack, in the meanwhile have been told I may belong to a branch of PF1975. I have been wondering, if its source/origin is known and its frequency among populations also known?

[Maleth]

Congratulations. It always feels good to have a haplotype confirmed. Am I right to say that this is further downstream to E-M81?. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-Z827#E-M81

[John Doe]

Congratulations. It always feels good to have a haplotype confirmed. Am I right to say that this is further downstream to E-M81?. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-Z827#E-M81

Have just been confirmed PF1975. I believe it's downstream of Z830, so I don't think it's downstream of E-M81.

[Maleth]

Have just been confirmed PF1975. I believe it's downstream of Z830, so I don't think it's downstream of E-M81.

Interesting. I have to become familiar and catch up with these new subclades or ones Im not familiar with, their sequences time frames and journeys.

[Dinarid]

I looked this particular subclade on Google, and it seems that all the results go to FTDNA or to people on forums asking about it. Also, every result I saw was Ashkenazi Jewish, so perhaps the mutation occurred among Ashkenazi Jews.

[DaveCushing]

ISOGG 2016, as of May 16, 2016, has taken anything downstream of E1b1b1b-2, including PF 1975, which would be E1b1b1b-2b or something similar, off line for tree investigation, to clarify the fine points of the tree.

Here's some older write-ups about the E1b1b1b-2a (=M123); the sister group according to ftDNA's clades to your PF 1975=E1b1b1b-2b.
Won't let me post links; Google E-M123!

[Loran]

Hi,
I am E-PF1975 as well.

[E1b1b1b2a1a1a1a1e1a4]

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[HarryRussell]

nice historical material on this forum page