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Apparently Bavarians don't want to be part of Germany:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_nationalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria_Party
And on another forum a Bavarian user - Toem - wrote:
http://historum.com/members/toem.html
Who are the Bavarians - can they even be considered Germans?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_nationalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria_Party
And on another forum a Bavarian user - Toem - wrote:
http://historum.com/members/toem.html
Toem said:
As a Bavarian i can tell you that i feel much more closer to Austria than to Germany. After all Austrians are Bavarians too from a historic/ethnic perspective.
Therefore i'd much rather want to live in a Bavarian/Austrian national state.
In reality, there's no such thing as a German nation. Germany has always been a federation of different nations. Today's Germany is a product of Prussia's inner German imperialism. In 1871 no German nation was founded in reality, but a Greater Prussian empire.
Of course, due to revisionist history, most people aren't aware of this, and even if you'd ask people in Bavaria today, the majority wouldn't associate them with Austria anymore.
There's a good quote by a German historian. Too my shame i forgot his name, read it in a book once.
"Die Reichgsründung von 1871 war die Verhinderung einer Deutschen Nation durch Preußen."
"The foundation of the German Reich in 1871 was the prevention of a German nation by Prussia".
Today's "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" is a direct succesor and product of that Reichs foundation in 1871.
You should also realize that the revolutionists of 1848 did by no means represent the majority of the people in their decisions.
At least in Southern Germany the idea of a Prussian lead German State was not popular at all.
For example, Bavarian millitary troops, who at the time had given their oath not only to the Bavarian King but also to the Austrian emperror had the following short chant.
It is originally in Bavarian language, where it rhymes better, but I translated it to High german.
Es gibt nur eine Kaiserstadt,
es gibt nur ein Wien,
es gibt nur ein Räuberloch,
das ist Berlin.
In English that would be something like this.
There is only one city of the emperor,
there is only one Vienna,
there's only one bandit town,
that is Berlin.
Also keep in my mind that the war of 1866 was originally called the Prussian-German war. In the decleration of the general mobilization of the German Confederation, it was stated that due to an agressive act by Prussia against Germany, war actions had to be taken.
So as you see Prussia at that time was not even considered to be a real German state in the south and Austria/Vienna was considered to be the historical and cultural center of the German lands. Which indeed it is.
Who are the Bavarians - can they even be considered Germans?