Bavarian separatism

[Alan]

AFAIK, Bavarians are a mix of mostly Celts and Slavs, with some Latin (Romance) too.

Would you agree that Bavarians and Austrians should be counted as Celtic nations?

Bavarians are South Germanic speakers like Austrians. Genetically they are probably a mix of ancient Germanics and Celts, but especially Austrians have also absorbed some Slavic genes.

 

[Tomenable]

Tomenable, my sample size was 25 for the East Prussian Germans, and I got them from a single project: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/ostpreussen-east-prussia/

It looks like you got a higher N1c:I1 ratio than I did, which would calculate as closer to the Old Prussians than mine did.

Looking for German names only, I see in your samples an R1a:R1b:N:I1 adjusted-to-100 ratio of roughly: 47 : 22 : 22 : 9 (mine had been 32 : 24 : 28 : 16)

Calculating your sample the same way I calculated mine, that gives 61% Old Prussian (mine had given 49%).

In addition to that sample of 80 from East Prussia, here is a sample of 100 men from Silesia:

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...sia-before-WW2?p=480445&viewfull=1#post480445

It seems that this map validates that my sample of 100 people from Silesia is representative:

The map is from Robert Gabel's website: http://www.robertgabel.de/

Though my Silesian sample of 100 includes men from both German and Polish FTDNA Projects.

 

[Tomenable]

Sparkey - I made a map with those 80 samples from East Prussia:

https://s31.postimg.org/tky8fgp5n/Map_East_Prussia.png

It seems that South-Western part of East Prussia had very low N1c:

All of N1c among those 80 Y-DNA samples were within this territory:

Interestingly all I2a samples are from area without any N1c samples:

German dialects spoken in East Prussia in 1937 (according to Werner König) - 28 and 7:

It seems that N1c could be found only among speakers of dialect 7, not speakers of 28:

And only east of the Vistula (considering that for example Kashubians have low N1c):