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Hello Tomenable. I'm not convinced but to end this offtopic I will make my last post concerning Mecklenburg. You can reply to me using PM in a matter concerning this post 
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Allright, so we now know something more. A simple fact - Mecklenburg was a region with higher participance of migrants. However, was it possibly connected with another fact, that this region remained relatively peaceful during the last months of WW2 in Europe? Maybe it's also connected with a fact, that many migrants were transported with a ships and it's a coastal region? Hamburg was bombed and so were other significant ports - Bremen and Kiel.
And again - were they just registered there and gathered in some kind of transit camps and later went elsewhere or they rather stayed? How many of them stayed? Have they settled mostly in cities/towns or on a countryside? Was there enough place to take ~40-45 % of new inhabitants? I guess not, because Mecklenburg wasn't affected by warfare - there weren't many perished people to be replaced.
Please also remember that it's 1950 and authorities had greater concerns than building block housing. It started later.
Mecklenburg had to be crowded. Migrant's didn't have a good perspectives there:
So, if they didn't have enough place and were not welcome, they likely got displaced to other regions (or chosen to do so) after 1950. If not to West Germany with better opportunities, then probably to re-populate big cities which undergone a considerable loss of "human factor" - like Dresden or Berlin, among others.
And here we are. How many of them actually left Mecklenburg after 1950? How many of them stayed until today or the moment of sampling a populations of Mecklenburg? What was their Y-DNA composition? We have to be sure that they had much of an R1a to double its frequency in that region.
Sample of Rebala consisted of 131 individuals for the whole region of Mecklenburg and it's considered to be representative. Sample for two single cities -Rostock and Greifswald, although we can't be certain on how many descendants of migrants were sampled here, numbered 200.
I'm well aware that migrants could've risen a frequency of R1a, since I have an eye on ~5000 R1a samples. The question is - was it a really significant rise? Do we know enough to say anything more than - "well, slight rise is likely but significant rise is in question"? We don't. It remains a possibility but I have my own reasons to feel skeptical about it. Data that we have doesn't suffice.
I may sound like a lingerer sometimes but I'm just long enough "in the topic". I've seen many population studies and how significantly the % can actually change depending on a sample and sampling methods. Tomenable may be right eventually but I feel a need of pacifying him a bit.
There is nothing wrong in saying "I don't know" or "I'm not sure".
.Allright, so we now know something more. A simple fact - Mecklenburg was a region with higher participance of migrants. However, was it possibly connected with another fact, that this region remained relatively peaceful during the last months of WW2 in Europe? Maybe it's also connected with a fact, that many migrants were transported with a ships and it's a coastal region? Hamburg was bombed and so were other significant ports - Bremen and Kiel.
And again - were they just registered there and gathered in some kind of transit camps and later went elsewhere or they rather stayed? How many of them stayed? Have they settled mostly in cities/towns or on a countryside? Was there enough place to take ~40-45 % of new inhabitants? I guess not, because Mecklenburg wasn't affected by warfare - there weren't many perished people to be replaced.
Please also remember that it's 1950 and authorities had greater concerns than building block housing. It started later.
Mecklenburg had to be crowded. Migrant's didn't have a good perspectives there:
So, if they didn't have enough place and were not welcome, they likely got displaced to other regions (or chosen to do so) after 1950. If not to West Germany with better opportunities, then probably to re-populate big cities which undergone a considerable loss of "human factor" - like Dresden or Berlin, among others.
And here we are. How many of them actually left Mecklenburg after 1950? How many of them stayed until today or the moment of sampling a populations of Mecklenburg? What was their Y-DNA composition? We have to be sure that they had much of an R1a to double its frequency in that region.
Sample of Rebala consisted of 131 individuals for the whole region of Mecklenburg and it's considered to be representative. Sample for two single cities -Rostock and Greifswald, although we can't be certain on how many descendants of migrants were sampled here, numbered 200.
I'm well aware that migrants could've risen a frequency of R1a, since I have an eye on ~5000 R1a samples. The question is - was it a really significant rise? Do we know enough to say anything more than - "well, slight rise is likely but significant rise is in question"? We don't
. It remains a possibility but I have my own reasons to feel skeptical about it. Data that we have doesn't suffice.Thanks!
I may sound like a lingerer sometimes but I'm just long enough "in the topic". I've seen many population studies and how significantly the % can actually change depending on a sample and sampling methods. Tomenable may be right eventually but I feel a need of pacifying him a bit.
There is nothing wrong in saying "I don't know" or "I'm not sure".
Pretty much unexpected, how come? You can write a PM to me
